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[FullMoon]

BUT, when America itself is attacked, the majority (if not vast majority) rally to the flag and live up to the expectations of their forefathers. The US Constitution is still valid, and still the best form of government on earth.

I don't see that happening this time. Especially after the Epstein files were released.

Much of the left now sees Washington as irredeemably racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic, while a growing contingent of the right now sees Washington as irredeemably degenerate if not Satanic.

They refuse to believe anything Washington says about who are our allies and who are our enemies. And if we do get attacked, they will blame Washington for provoking the attack.

Because in their opinion, no government is worse than Washington. And they would rather live under a (relatively) moral dictatorship than under an immoral democracy.

I was thinking about the truth of what you've stated but I'm not young and can't imagine how we've come to this reality. When I was younger, Iraq war was based upon obvious lies but everyone was gung ho to go kill people. Because of bloodlust.
The youth of today didn't grow up with Rambo as an idol like we did.
You're probably a bit exaggerating the hatred of the degenerate condition of the government and underestimating the willingness of the young to join a fight once the catalyst threshold has been reached. We shouldn't underestimate the inability of people to learn lessons from the past and repeating patterns, no matter how dumb, is preferred by most than changing and learning. . John used to lament this fact.

[DaKardii]

BUT, when America itself is attacked, the majority (if not vast majority) rally to the flag and live up to the expectations of their forefathers. The US Constitution is still valid, and still the best form of government on earth.

I don't see that happening this time. Especially after the Epstein files were released.

Much of the left now sees Washington as irredeemably racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic, while a growing contingent of the right now sees Washington as irredeemably degenerate if not Satanic.

They refuse to believe anything Washington says about who are our allies and who are our enemies. And if we do get attacked, they will blame Washington for provoking the attack.

Because in their opinion, no government is worse than Washington. And they would rather live under a (relatively) moral dictatorship than under an immoral democracy.

I was thinking about the truth of what you've stated but I'm not young and can't imagine how we've come to this reality. When I was younger, Iraq war was based upon obvious lies but everyone was gung ho to go kill people. Because of bloodlust.
The youth of today didn't grow up with Rambo as an idol like we did.
You're probably a bit exaggerating the hatred of the degenerate condition of the government and underestimating the willingness of the young to join a fight once the catalyst threshold has been reached. We shouldn't underestimate the inability of people to learn lessons from the past and repeating patterns, no matter how dumb, is preferred by most than changing and learning. . John used to lament this fact.

So in other words, they'll lose their nerve, and ignore everything their own conclusions about Washington, when worst comes to worst?

[Fullmoonn]

So in other words, they'll lose their nerve, and ignore everything their own conclusions about Washington, when worst comes to worst?

In other words ...
There's lots and lots of people who aren't as dialed in as you are. When the "regeneracy"(aa John named it) event comes (probably a false flag domestically think nine eleven) the young,. who are socially mindful and wants to help others, will band together for mutual self preservation against something threatening. I think that's the basic premise of a recurring historical pattern that's been observed. It's not that they'll all of a sudden start to love the satanic pedophiles trying to destroy the world, but rather that they will band together with other people for collective and down to earth reasons. It seems they'd rather be happy with such a thing because we can see clearly how dystopian and corrupt the conditions have become.

[Fullmoonn]

So in other words, they'll lose their nerve, and ignore everything their own conclusions about Washington, when worst comes to worst?

But we have to realize that the founders understood that enemies were both foreign AND domestic. The groups who'd like to destroy our country for religious reasons ARE what should be defined as domestic enemy. . In the same camp as the foreign agents and enemies as well as other (less dangerous) domestic elements. Our government has been hijacked and the reality is too crazy for most normal to understand. But that doesn't mean that they're against their fellow citizens and lacking the desire to help make a better world. The hidden nature and motivation behind our national destruction is now rather easy to see because they stand behind government agencies and say it openly. In this regard it looks like the end times, because they'll force it down our throats.

[Phong Tran]

In regards to the United States of America, John had last updated the country generation as 1984 to Present (Unraveling Era). Do we know when that period has ended and when it's Crisis Era had started? That may help us figure out when the next transition from Crisis to Recovery Era would occur.

I remember reading or watching someone who made a very interesting point, I can't remember the source, but I guess consideration of the message may be more important then who brought it up. That Trump's attack on Iran was a big hit to his MAGA base, as when he was campaigning, he made it seem like he was tired of foreign wars and would keep the US away from such entanglements. If one were to look at that betrayal at it's simplest principle, outside of left-right politics, whether it needed to be done, etc..., it really starts to open the question of whether Representative Democracy truly exists in the United States? Trump neither went to the senate or congress or the American public to determine if his course of action was supported by the people. And if true Representative Democracy doesn't exist, then what form of Government does the United States have? As I don't know enough about the Executive Powers of the President, I can't really say what is within their rights or not, but from the general layman's perspective, I'm sure it continues to show the hypocrisy of campaigning with certain promises and then disregarding those same promises once the politician is in office.

In the fourth turning, the Hero generation is the one supposed to rise to the occasion during the Crisis Era; I'm not sure how closely John's generational dynamics theory correlated with fourth turning theory, but if that's the case, the Millenials' will be the Hero generation in this period. That's the generation that understands that the system is corrupt and broken, that no longer believe in the American Dream and that working harder will lead to a fulfilling life. While most of them are not nihilistic, there is a true apathy toward the system. I guess I'm not quite sure that an external conflict against the US will re-patriotize the American population the same way the attack on Pearl Harbor did for WWII. It doesn't remove the internal corruption, and defending, fighting and dying for that corrupted system won't make sense for the Hero generation. However, a civil war during the Crisis Era of US could most certainly create a polarizing "regeneracy" as that drive to root the current corruption out and to rebuild the American Idea would be one that many Millenials' could probably get behind. Just some thoughts and nothing new really, but as things are changing so fast, bringing back up the topic as a future possibility.