Navigator wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2026 11:55 pmBUT, when America itself is attacked, the majority (if not vast majority) rally to the flag and live up to the expectations of their forefathers. The US Constitution is still valid, and still the best form of government on earth.
I don't see that happening this time. Especially after the Epstein files were released.
Much of the left now sees Washington as irredeemably racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic, while a growing contingent of the right now sees Washington as irredeemably degenerate if not Satanic.
They refuse to believe anything Washington says about who are our allies and who are our enemies. And if we do get attacked, they will blame Washington for provoking the attack.
Because in their opinion, no government is worse than Washington. And they would rather live under a (relatively) moral dictatorship than under an immoral democracy.
I was thinking about the truth of what you've stated but I'm not young and can't imagine how we've come to this reality. When I was younger, Iraq war was based upon obvious lies but everyone was gung ho to go kill people. Because of bloodlust.
The youth of today didn't grow up with Rambo as an idol like we did.
You're probably a bit exaggerating the hatred of the degenerate condition of the government and underestimating the willingness of the young to join a fight once the catalyst threshold has been reached. We shouldn't underestimate the inability of people to learn lessons from the past and repeating patterns, no matter how dumb, is preferred by most than changing and learning. . John used to lament this fact.
Navigator wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2026 11:55 pmBUT, when America itself is attacked, the majority (if not vast majority) rally to the flag and live up to the expectations of their forefathers. The US Constitution is still valid, and still the best form of government on earth.
I don't see that happening this time. Especially after the Epstein files were released.
Much of the left now sees Washington as irredeemably racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic, while a growing contingent of the right now sees Washington as irredeemably degenerate if not Satanic.
They refuse to believe anything Washington says about who are our allies and who are our enemies. And if we do get attacked, they will blame Washington for provoking the attack.
Because in their opinion, no government is worse than Washington. And they would rather live under a (relatively) moral dictatorship than under an immoral democracy.
I was thinking about the truth of what you've stated but I'm not young and can't imagine how we've come to this reality. When I was younger, Iraq war was based upon obvious lies but everyone was gung ho to go kill people. Because of bloodlust.
The youth of today didn't grow up with Rambo as an idol like we did.
You're probably a bit exaggerating the hatred of the degenerate condition of the government and underestimating the willingness of the young to join a fight once the catalyst threshold has been reached. We shouldn't underestimate the inability of people to learn lessons from the past and repeating patterns, no matter how dumb, is preferred by most than changing and learning. . John used to lament this fact.
So in other words, they'll lose their nerve, and ignore everything their own conclusions about Washington, when worst comes to worst?
So in other words, they'll lose their nerve, and ignore everything their own conclusions about Washington, when worst comes to worst?
In other words ...
There's lots and lots of people who aren't as dialed in as you are. When the "regeneracy"(aa John named it) event comes (probably a false flag domestically think nine eleven) the young,. who are socially mindful and wants to help others, will band together for mutual self preservation against something threatening. I think that's the basic premise of a recurring historical pattern that's been observed. It's not that they'll all of a sudden start to love the satanic pedophiles trying to destroy the world, but rather that they will band together with other people for collective and down to earth reasons. It seems they'd rather be happy with such a thing because we can see clearly how dystopian and corrupt the conditions have become.
So in other words, they'll lose their nerve, and ignore everything their own conclusions about Washington, when worst comes to worst?
But we have to realize that the founders understood that enemies were both foreign AND domestic. The groups who'd like to destroy our country for religious reasons ARE what should be defined as domestic enemy. . In the same camp as the foreign agents and enemies as well as other (less dangerous) domestic elements. Our government has been hijacked and the reality is too crazy for most normal to understand. But that doesn't mean that they're against their fellow citizens and lacking the desire to help make a better world. The hidden nature and motivation behind our national destruction is now rather easy to see because they stand behind government agencies and say it openly. In this regard it looks like the end times, because they'll force it down our throats.