Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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https://merylnass.substack.com/p/op-ed- ... er-and-big
Op-Ed in THE HILL on Bayer and Big Ag's "Get Out of Jail Free" scheme. Lots of links. Great comparison to the vaccine liability shield. Wonderful discussion of this issue.

The game Monopoly was patented in 1904, updated in 1935. Unregulated monopolies and near-monopolies like Bayer are nothing new in America.
Almost 40 years ago, the federal government granted vaccine manufacturers immunity from people who might otherwise like to sue those companies for vaccine injuries. Now pesticide companies are trying to secure similar legal shields.

It’s easy to see why. After the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act became law, the vaccine market began growing at a rapid clip and has never been the same since. More than 40 shots for double the amount of diseases have been added to the childhood vaccine schedule in the U.S. — more than in any other developed nation.

In 1986, the pharmaceutical lobby claimed drug companies needed a liability shield to make the market for vaccines viable. They invest many years and many millions of dollars on research and development for new vaccines and patents. Costly lawsuits signal to markets that the risks of a vaccine might outweigh the rewards. That could suppress demand, forcing companies to leave the vaccine market altogether. Such a departure, they argued, would harm public health.

In lieu of legal recourse, the bill established the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program as an “alternative remedy to judicial action for specified vaccine-related injuries.”

Whatever its intentions, the compensation program has too often added insult to injury for victims of vaccine injury. Payouts are limited to $250,000 for “actual and projected pain and suffering and emotional distress,” but few ever receive that much. Reporting methodologies are shoddy, and those who have tried to receive compensation through the program say the meager payout — usually amounting to a few hundred dollars — isn’t worth the hassle and headache.

Experts estimate that only between 1 percent and 10 percent of cases are even recorded in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. Under Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Make America Healthy Again advocates have called out the vaccine carve-out act for distorting incentives in the vaccine market. Amid growing public awareness, Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) has filed a bill with 31 sponsors that would repeal it.

In their quest for similar liability shields, producers of agrichemical products — often known as Big Ag — know they can’t be as transparent as the pharma lobby was in 1986. So, they tried to sneak the provision into a house appropriations bill, with language that obscured the obvious. According to Meryl Nass, a former doctor and physician researcher, Section 453 of the Interior and Environment House Appropriations Bill “grants pesticide manufacturers de facto immunity from liability for injuries caused by exposure to their products, shielding them from accountability.”

Thanks to pushback from activists, including Nass, Section 453 was defeated in both the House and the Senate.

Big Ag has therefore shifted tactics, setting its sights instead on the new farm bill. According to sources inside the Agriculture Department, the same language for the immunity provision from 2024 is planned to be included in this year’s bill. Section 10204 would grant pesticide manufacturers de facto immunity and erect a liability shield for all chemicals regulated under the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act; Section 10205 would remove states’ power to create local regulations.

In addition, under the guise of the Modern Ag Alliance, chemical companies are working to pass liability shield laws at the state level. They have already succeeded in Georgia and North Dakota, and state efforts will likely continue in future legislative cycles. Their website claims that glyphosate-based pesticides are the “backbone of modern farming” and that lawsuits against the manufacturers of the products have been “scientifically unsound.”

However, several courts have disagreed. Three initial lawsuits against Monsanto (Johnson v. Monsanto, Hardeman v. Monsanto, and Pilliod et al. v. Monsanto) ruled in favor of the plaintiffs, to the tune of $289 million, $80 million and $2 billion, respectively.

Bayer has already spent a huge amount of money — almost $11 billion — to settle almost 100,000 lawsuits involving Roundup. The most recent judgment against Bayer, in Missouri for just over $600 million, brings the company’s total loss closer to $12 billion.

Shielding private companies from liability blunts the strong market incentives companies otherwise receive to make their products and services as safe as they can. If injured customers can sue them, any business, whether that be a restaurant or car manufacturer, has strong reasons to create products and services that do not endanger their customers. Successful lawsuits also send a signal to other potential customers: proceed with caution.

The agri-chemical industry prefers to operate under cover of opaque legalese. And while many niche public interest groups have caught on to their tricks and have been diligently ringing the alarm, it will take more than a few activists to win this fight. The chemical companies have been relentless in their pursuit to maintain legal protections despite the potential hazards to consumers, particularly American farmers, whose persistent exposure to agrichemical products puts them at great risk.

If the most recent liability shields succeed, safety incentives for powerful industries will collapse while injuries mount and taxpayers foot the bill for the fallout via increasing rates of chronic disease. Unless the public demands transparency and defeats these hidden immunity clauses once and for all, the next generation will inherit a government that fails to offer just recourse and a food system that poisons them.

Jennifer Galardi is senior policy analyst for restoring American wellness in the Heritage Foundation’s DeVos Center.
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https://jonfleetwood.substack.com/p/por ... u-outbreak
Portugal Runs H5N1 Bird Flu Outbreak Simulation—Echoing Pre-COVID Pandemic Exercises

Patients refusing to use personal protective equipment, like masks, defined as "threats."
Why This Exercise Draws Attention

Although the simulation occurred in early 2025, the study was submitted in July 2025, accepted in December, and published online January 8, 2026, placing it into the medical literature at a time when international concern over bird flu preparedness is intensifying.

The timing and structure of the exercise are notable.

In the years preceding COVID-19, global health institutions conducted high-level pandemic simulations—including SPARS Pandemic 2025–2028 and Event 201—that modeled coronavirus outbreaks, public messaging challenges, and emergency countermeasures shortly before those scenarios became reality.

This Lisbon exercise follows the same pattern:

a named pathogen,

a simulated outbreak,

documented preparedness gaps,

and publication after the fact to formalize the response framework.

The study documents preparedness planning.

It confirms that bird flu is now being actively rehearsed as a plausible next pandemic scenario, not only in abstract policy discussions, but through operational simulations involving frontline civilian healthcare systems.

Was the exercise solely for preparedness, or does it function as early-stage coordination for future response architectures?
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5
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https://blog.maryannedemasi.com/p/austr ... es-answers
Australian senate forces answers on why Covid vaccine deaths were not investigated

After US regulators linked child deaths to Covid-19 mRNA vaccines, an Australian senator has demanded to know why reported child deaths in Australia were not escalated for expert causality assessment.
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/why-cant-a ... -the-study
Why can't anyone show us the study showing vaccines save lives?

Where is the study in the US using record-level data showing that kids who are fully vaccinated die less? According to AI, no such study exists. Vaccine mandates are all based on belief, not science.
There are really bad studies using modelling data claiming vaccines save lives, but the models assume vaccines don’t kill people.

Where is the study, using record-level data, showing vaccines save lives? I can’t find it.

What I did find is the CDC 2017 study showing vaccination does NOT save lives.

Where is the study showing it does save lives?

According to AlterAI, there is no such study:

Which raises the question

So why are states mandating vaccines if there no such study? At a minimum they should notify the public that the policy is based 100% on belief and not science.

Please share with your friends. Maybe they can help answer my question.
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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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https://karlkanthak.substack.com/p/flu- ... -mortality
Flu, or "Flu Related" mortality.

"Why does the CDC estimate deaths related to seasonal flu?"
From the MMWR:

“CDC does not know the exactly the number of people who die from flu each year"

“CDC feels (?) it is important to convey the full burden of seasonal flu to the public.”

“Does the CDC think that influenza causes most P & I deaths?”

“Only a small proportion of deaths in either of these 2 categories are estimated to be flu related.”

“Only 8.5% of pneumonia, and 2.1% of all respiratory and circulatory deaths are flu related.”
COMMENTARY:
Flu — or Flu Related?
How a statistical trick turned a mild virus into a perennial mass‑death narrative
If forty thousand Americans really died of the flu every year, everyone would know someone.
A coworker. A neighbor. A cousin.
But most people can’t name a single one.

Yet every winter, health officials and media headlines remind us: “Up to 40,000 people die from the flu each year.”
It’s a line so familiar that few ever stop to ask a simple question — where does that number come from?

What “flu‑related” actually means
Buried in an official CDC document, quietly updated in 2016, lies a revealing disclaimer:

“Only 8.5 % of pneumonia deaths and 2.1 % of respiratory and circulatory deaths are estimated to be influenza‑related.”

In other words, about 98 % of the deaths counted as “flu‑related” aren’t influenza at all — they belong to enormous statistical categories whose winter increases simply coincide with flu season.

The agency doesn’t actually count flu deaths in adults.
Instead, it models them, using regression formulas that treat seasonal spikes in heart failure and pneumonia deaths as signals of invisible influenza.

When “flu‑like” isn’t flu
Laboratory surveillance reveals the same pattern. Between 1997 and 2014, the CDC tested millions of respiratory samples from Americans reporting “flu‑like illness.”

The numbers tell their own story:

Season range Avg. samples positive for influenza 1997 – 2014 ≈ 15 %

Meaning: roughly 85 % of people with “flu‑like” illness didn’t have influenza virus at all.
They had rhinovirus, RSV, adenovirus, bacterial bronchitis — anything but “the flu.”

The real death certificates
Data compiled by the American Lung Association — drawn from CDC mortality files — paints an even sharper picture.
Between 1999 and 2006, annual influenza‑coded deaths ranged from 257 to 1 812, averaging roughly 1 200 per year.

That’s a rounding error next to the “40,000 deaths” cited in campaigns every winter.
Even the 2016 CDC paper acknowledges that > 90 % of truly influenza‑associated deaths occur among seniors ≥ 65 years, the very group for whom vaccine efficacy is lowest.

The math behind the myth
So how did 1,200 actual deaths become 40,000 “annual flu deaths”?

Through what epidemiologists call the Serfling regression model — a statistical method from the 1960s that estimates “excess winter mortality.”
Here’s the trick:

Analyze baseline deaths in summer when flu activity is minimal.

Subtract that baseline from winter deaths.

Attribute the unexplained difference to “influenza.”

Thus, if 60,000 more people die in January than in July, and only a few thousand are confirmed flu cases, the model still credits tens of thousands of those excess deaths to influenza — sight unseen.

The result is mathematically elegant and empirically hollow.

Why the exaggeration persists
Numbers shape policy — and budgets.
The bigger the burden, the greater the justification for vaccine funding, advertising, and emergency stockpiles. No agency willingly admits it has overstated danger for decades.
And for journalists accustomed to quoting press releases, “flu kills 40 000 people” is easier copy than dissecting statistical models.

It keeps the wheel turning: fear ↔ funding ↔ reinforcement.

The linguistic sleight of hand
Notice how public‑health language fuses flu and flu‑related into one rhetorical blur.
“Flu or flu‑related complications” sounds precise — but it’s a semantic loophole wide enough to drive policy through.
The modifier “‑related” performs the heavy lifting, transforming correlation into causation, modeling into mortality.

When counting stopped, modeling began
Until the early 2000s, CDC published the raw influenza death numbers straight from the National Vital Statistics System.
Once those figures proved too small to justify mass vaccination narratives, the practice shifted: real counts vanished; modeled estimates replaced them.
The “flu season toll” became an annual press release ritual, detached from laboratory confirmation.

The truth hiding in plain sight
If the yearly toll were truly 40,000, you would already know someone who’d died of flu.

But you probably don’t — because the real figure, according to the government’s own data, is closer to one or two thousand, not forty.
Every other “flu death” exists only as a probability inside an algorithm.

Public trust doesn’t die from influenza; it dies from the word “related.”

References to hyperlink for readers
CDC (2016): Estimating Seasonal Influenza‑Associated Deaths
[archived source: web.archive.org/web/20161016153741/http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/2015‑16.htm]

CDC Weekly Influenza Surveillance Reports, 1997–2014

American Lung Association, Trends in Pneumonia and Influenza Morbidity and Mortality (2010) https://www.lung.org/getmedia/98f088b5- ... rt.pdf.pdf

The math behind the myth.
“Excess‐Mortality Modeling in 30 Seconds”
The CDC’s influenza death estimates come from a Serfling regression, first described in 1963.
Here’s the layman’s version:

Define a baseline – Use deaths from non‑flu months (summer) to predict how many deaths should occur each week if influenza weren’t present. Call that the expected line.

Measure the winter peak – Count all “respiratory + circulatory” deaths each week.

Subtract the baseline from the observed peak – The leftover “extra” deaths are labeled influenza‑associated.

Mathematically:

Flu‑Associated Deaths = Observed R&C Deaths − Expected Baseline

That’s it. No lab verification — just subtraction.

If January’s respiratory + cardiac deaths rise 10 %, the model assumes influenza caused the entire difference, ignoring cold weather, vitamin D dips, hospital staffing gaps, dietary changes, or other seasonal biological stresses.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5
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