FullMoon wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 11:24 am
I don't grow tomatoes anymore because they became a fun project that didn't yield their efforts' worth.
Last year I worked on figuring out how to reduce the time investment in growing tomatoes.
1. Cherry tomatoes take too long to pick. It's necessary to grow a tomato that has big fruit.
2. Tomatoes that have a lot of seeds take too long to process. It's necessary to grow a tomato that has few seeds.
3. Indeterminate tomatoes take a long time to stake. It's necessary to grow a tomato that requires minimal labor to stake. I used the Florida weave method to stake them but in my opinion that is still too labor intensive for vines that grow 8 plus feet.
This is in contrast to what I was told. What I was told was the Spring season down here is too short to grow full size tomatoes and that it's necessary to grow cherry tomatoes if you want a good yielding crop. My full size tomatoes were done well before the brunt of the heat hit and the yields were outstanding (about 6-8 pounds per square foot) . Though I will say that indeterminate cherry tomatoes are more resilient and this year about 1/4 of my plantings will be those.
My wife eats lots of tomatoes. I don't want her getting the pesticide exposure from conventional tomatoes and good organic tomatoes are pushing $4 per pound.
I knew tomatoes would probably take a lot of preparation and practice. Whereas if someone wants to start a farming operation that brings in income within 60 days, lettuce will do that. I saw a story about a family in Tennessee that did that after the man was laid off. They now have a successful operation that supports their family. So I went with the more difficult to produce thing first.
Here's his story:
In the summer of 2009 I was laid off from a really good job, leaving us debt-free but no savings to start with. So we had to start with zero, but we were rich with vision and determination for our family to make a go of farming, allowing us to get a sense of what could grow in our punishing humid summers and it also gave us time to figure out where our markets would be.
We were farming insane hours, rarely it seemed was I around for meals or bedtimes for our children. At this time we were farming with a tractor on 2 acres (terribly!), got into chickens, laying hens, pigs, and even a few cows. All in trying to practically find a way to make a living here in our area which was proving to be very difficult! Regulations for raising and selling livestock here caused us numerous hardships, and without consistent clients to buy our meat, it became more of a struggle to maintain a family of 6, keep track of our animals, and keep the Tennessee weed bank under control, which did not even come close to happening!
To top it all, early in the spring of 2015 right at transplant season, our 6-year-old daughter was diagnosed with a very aggressive life-threatening stage 4 cancer.
Life was in chaos.
And we needed a change.
How We Got Through It
By this time in 2015, we had already established some really good methods for growing lettuce, especially in the summer. And after a radical diet and lifestyle change that followed our daughter's health crisis, we started to consume large amounts of vegetables, a lot less meat, and in the fall of 2015 we made a leap of faith to sell our meat business, stop using a tractor, and farm using only one acre. Our farming friends thought we were insane, but we were pretty certain that focusing on just produce would allow us to master the lettuce crop in 2016. We had lettuce for sale every week that season! We were so thrilled to discover that we tripled our income on half the amount of land that year! Excited and inspired, we knew we were heading in the right direction. By focusing on creating better-growing systems in our produce operation, changing our farm practices, we now have year-round production, a near weed-free farm (which makes me thrilled nearly every day), and being really aggressive and creative about our sales outlets for our area, we have been able to live a sustainable and enjoyable life, rarely working in the fields more than 8 hours, which was one of our top goals!
https://rosecreekfarmstore.com/pages/our-story
For me, it's just a case of looking at where we are spending our money and to produce it here starting with the more time consuming/more expensive stuff first.
Many years ago, I bought a book called The Metabolic Typing Diet. It has a long survey used to determine one's optimal diet which can range from vegetarian to primarily meat with a mixed diet being in between. Though at the same time I don't discount what my body is telling me and what my long lived ancestors did and advised. I ignore quacks like Dr. Gundry.
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