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Investments, gold, currencies, surviving after a financial meltdown
aeden
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Yea your correct on something is brewing. The center of the market that has not rotted out to the left and right is getting past the point of no return IYI marketeers loons.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/19225/cen ... en-shapiro

Cracking down on conservative viewpoints undercuts that mission, and could lead to an exodus from the platform if such censorship is maintained or grows. That would lead to the creation of another political site for videos, which would simply exacerbate the bubble mentality that now exists on both sides.
https://farleftwatch.com/2017/08/02/the ... ts-a-pass/

The earliest concept of independents is of a person whose political choices, by definition, were made based on issues.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

Pretty soon the dirt road turned into blacktop. As we noted early...

http://ponerology.com/
Nevertheless, fake-believe in the recovery and the casino remains pinned....
It is good to be reminded of that once again since its true.
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The Society for the Psychological Study of Social Issues.

1. Propagandist must have access to intelligence concerning events and public opinion.
2. Propaganda must be planned and executed by only one authority.
a. It must issue all the propaganda directives.
b. It must explain propaganda directives to important officials and maintain their morale.
c. It must oversee other agencies' activities which have propaganda consequences
3. The propaganda consequences of an action must be considered in planning that action.
4. Propaganda must affect the enemy's policy and action.
a. By suppressing propagandistically desirable material which can provide the enemy with useful intelligence
b. By openly disseminating propaganda whose content or tone causes the enemy to draw the desired conclusions
c. By goading the enemy into revealing vital information about himself
d. By making no reference to a desired enemy activity when any reference would discredit that activity
5. Declassified, operational information must be available to implement a propaganda campaign
6. To be perceived, propaganda must evoke the interest of an audience and must be transmitted through an attention-getting communications medium.
7. Credibility alone must determine whether propaganda output should be true or false.
8. The purpose, content and effectiveness of enemy propaganda; the strength and effects of an expose; and the nature of current propaganda campaigns determine whether enemy propaganda should be ignored or refuted.
9. Credibility, intelligence, and the possible effects of communicating determine whether propaganda materials should be censored.
10. Material from enemy propaganda may be utilized in operations when it helps diminish that enemy's prestige or lends support to the propagandist's own objective.
11. Black rather than white propaganda may be employed when the latter is less credible or produces undesirable effects.
12. Propaganda may be facilitated by leaders with prestige.
13. Propaganda must be carefully timed.
a. The communication must reach the audience ahead of competing propaganda.
b. A propaganda campaign must begin at the optimum moment
c. A propaganda theme must be repeated, but not beyond some point of diminishing effectiveness
14. Propaganda must label events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans.
a. They must evoke desired responses which the audience previously possesses
b. They must be capable of being easily learned
c. They must be utilized again and again, but only in appropriate situations
d. They must be boomerang-proof
15. Propaganda to the home front must prevent the raising of false hopes which can be blasted by future events.
16. Propaganda to the home front must create an optimum anxiety level.
a. Propaganda must reinforce anxiety concerning the consequences of defeat
b. Propaganda must diminish anxiety (other than concerning the consequences of defeat) which is too high and which cannot be reduced by people themselves
17. Propaganda to the home front must diminish the impact of frustration.
a. Inevitable frustrations must be anticipated
b. Inevitable frustrations must be placed in perspective
18. Propaganda must facilitate the displacement of aggression by specifying the targets for hatred.
19. Propaganda cannot immediately affect strong counter-tendencies; instead it must offer some form of action or diversion, or both.
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thread notes: Mises observed:
When pushed hard by economists, welfare propagandists and socialists admit that impairment of the average standard of living can only be avoided by the maintenance of capital already accumulated and that economic improvement depends on accumulation of additional capital. History does not provide any example of capital accumulation brought about by a government. The consumers are merciless. They never buy in order to benefit a less efficient producer and to protect him against the consequences of his failure to manage better. They want to be served as well as possible. And the working of the capitalist system forces the entrepreneur to obey the orders issued by the consumers. The corruption of the regulatory bodies does not shake his blind confidence in the infallibility and perfection of the state; it merely fills him with moral aversion to entrepreneurs and capitalists. No one should expect that any logical argument or any experience could ever shake the almost religious fervor of those who believe in salvation through spending and credit expansion. The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.
As for me are you not still under an Ancient Roman edict to consumers then and now of Caveat emptor: Let the buyer beware? And let stockholders beware of wayward leadership. Sum is that lingering element to date to preserve capital and serve the customer which to date is being exterminated by observation to its ideological burden they wish. The preservation of our net cash flow to date consists only to serve the remaining customer base. We are in the mode to this hidebound reality since theories explain, but cannot slow the decline of a great civilization as they plan. I set out to be a reformer, but only became the historian of a decline. Aristotle in his Rhetoric (c. 322 B.C.) hit democracy as "when put to the strain, grows weak, and is supplanted by oligarchy. Since I am a consumer to vote every day in purchases will you listen or pass me by as I focus on things you consider important to me? My friend behind the Great Fire Wall conveyed enjoy Democracy while it last some years ago. As we talked he conveyed how I kept my house over the years. We shared many thoughts of men who understood what is important. Some are here in this forum of reason. As conveyed earlier if you do not know a stock better than your wife please refrain.

Locally we had some wins to keep widows in there homes as the predators moved in and no, not all of our State issues have been failures.

Orestes Brownson went even further when he wrote: Democratic or democratically inclined governments are,
for the most part, cruel and hard-hearted. Like corporations, they have no souls and are incapable of tenderness.

Deadly errors arise from obsolete assumptions.
Bureaucracy destroys initiative.
Amos is still correct.

They started it, we did not.
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I've gone heavily short stock indices yesterday and today.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Higgenbotham wrote: > I've gone heavily short stock indices yesterday and today.
So you're not assuaged by the good earnings reports, low interest
rates, and low unemployment?
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John wrote:
Higgenbotham wrote: > I've gone heavily short stock indices yesterday and today.
So you're not assuaged by the good earnings reports, low interest
rates, and low unemployment?
Good earnings reports - Stocks are getting hit hard on great earnings - example - DPZ.

Low interest rates - Rates are going up - example - a 3 month t-bill now pays 1.1% from close to zero for most of the past 8 years.

Low unemployment - It was just reported manufacturing companies can't find workers because there has been a marked increase in candidates unable to pass a drug test. Companies are telling the local placement offices, "Send us all the refugees you have."

The first day to day canary in the coal mine I noticed was when Costco stock got hit about 20% on the news Amazon bought Whole Foods.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g

Note the segments starting at around 14 and 24 minutes into the video.

It will take 15 to 30 to turn it around if you survive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Iz3VjoHXLA
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Higgenbotham wrote: > Good earnings reports - Stocks are getting hit hard on great
> earnings - example - DPZ.

> Low interest rates - Rates are going up - example - a 3 month
> t-bill now pays 1.1% from close to zero for most of the past 8
> years.

> Low unemployment - It was just reported manufacturing companies
> can't find workers because there has been a marked increase in
> candidates unable to pass a drug test. Companies are telling the
> local placement offices, "Send us all the refugees you have."

> The first day to day canary in the coal mine I noticed was when
> Costco stock got hit about 20% on the news Amazon bought Whole
> Foods.
Greenspan: Bond bubble about to break because of 'abnormally low'
interest rates

Former Fed Chief Alan Greenspan said "abnormally low" interest
rates will break a bubble in the bond markets.

Greenspan is famous for warning markets about "irrational
exuberance" and the consequences it can bring.

Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan issued a bold warning
Friday that the bond market is on the cusp of a collapse that also
will threaten stock prices.

In a CNBC interview, the long-time central bank chief said the
prolonged period of low interest rates is about to end and, with it, a
bull market in fixed income that has lasted more than three decades.

"The current level of interest rates is abnormally low and there's
only one direction in which they can go, and when they start they will
be rather rapid," Greenspan said on "Squawk Box."

That low interest rate environment has been the product of current
monetary policy at the institution he helmed from 1987-2006. The Fed
took its benchmark rate to near-zero during the financial crisis and
kept it there for seven years after.

Since December 2015, the Fed has approved four rate hikes, but
government bond yields remained mired near record lows.

Greenspan did not criticize the policies of the current Fed. But he
warned that the low rate environment can't last forever and will have
severe consequences once it ends.

"I have no time frame on the forecast," he said. "I have a chart which
goes back to the 1800s and I can tell you that this particular period
sticks out. But you have no way of knowing in advance when it will
actually trigger."

One point he did make about timing is it likely will be quick and take
the market by surprise.

"It looks stronger just before it isn't stronger," he said. Anyone who
thinks they can forecast when the bubble will break is "in for a
disastrous" experience."

In addition to his general work at the Fed, which also featured an
extended period of low rates though nowhere near their current
position, Greenspan is widely known for the "irrational exuberance"
speech he gave at the American Enterprise Institute in 1996. The
speech warned about asset prices and said it is difficult to tell when
a bubble is about to burst.

Those remarks foreshadowed the popping of the dotcom bubble, and the
phrase has found a permanent place in the Wall Street lexicon.

"You can never be quite sure when irrational exuberance arises," he
told CNBC. "I was doing it as part of a much broader speech and
talking about the analysis of the markets and the like, and I wasn't
trying to focus short-term. But the press loved that term."

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/04/greensp ... rates.html
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