7-Jan-16 World View -- German 'Code of Conduct' for women shows pendulum swing on gender issues / Merry Christmas!

[gerald]

The "Monsters" Unmasked: Cologne Police Admit "Most Of The Attackers Were Refugees"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-0 ... re-refugee

nothing to see just move along --

FED UP: German Men Form Vigilante Group Against Migrant Sexual Attacks -- http://madworldnews.com/german-vigilant ... t-attacks/

Question -- How did Hitler get his start? --- Answer -- the "leaders screwed up "

[gerald]

The "Monsters" Unmasked: Cologne Police Admit "Most Of The Attackers Were Refugees"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-0 ... re-refugee

nothing to see just move along --

FED UP: German Men Form Vigilante Group Against Migrant Sexual Attacks -- http://madworldnews.com/german-vigilant ... t-attacks/

Question -- How did Hitler get his start? --- Answer -- the "leaders screwed up "

Slovak PM Closes The Door To Refugees: "We Don't Want What Happened In Germany To Happen Here"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-0 ... appen-here
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From history -- The ground work for the French Revolution boiled and built for years below the surface, and then a trigger and blood flowed.

[Guest]

How ever many (or few) rapes were committed by migrants really isn't the issue. Those womem would not have been raped if those migrants hadn't been allowed to stay.

[MarvyGuy]

From history -- The ground work for the French Revolution boiled and built for years below the surface, and then a trigger and blood flowed.

I have to admit I have not studied the French Revolution ion great detail. I have skirted the edges being mainly interested in Napoleon. That being said I have read that it was proto Marixist in nature, was in some part orchestrated by the Jacobins and the counselors to Louis who bankrupted the state and then blamed him for it. France today is still ruled (if you will) by a select group of individuals a la Platos Cave from The Republic.

Some more rape stories which leads me to think it is not isolated or a Duke LaCross or Rolling Stone Mag thing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... eport.html

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/ ... 8-06-41-39

and this:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01 ... ant-rapes/

Anyway I think the big picture is that this massive influx of migrants from N Africa and other Muslim nations into predominately Christian areas (even if most of them never stepped into a church) is creating a fault line that skews right. If you thought even 5 percent were rapists/murderers you would be afraid of everyone since you have no way to know who are the bad apples until it is too late. So it will strengthen the tribe mentality. I really have a hard time understanding this push for multiculturalism by the hard left. Seems to me you are running a big risk of just creating future crisis fault lines.

[gerald]

From history -- The ground work for the French Revolution boiled and built for years below the surface, and then a trigger and blood flowed.

I have to admit I have not studied the French Revolution ion great detail. I have skirted the edges being mainly interested in Napoleon. That being said I have read that it was proto Marixist in nature, was in some part orchestrated by the Jacobins and the counselors to Louis who bankrupted the state and then blamed him for it. France today is still ruled (if you will) by a select group of individuals a la Platos Cave from The Republic.

Some more rape stories which leads me to think it is not isolated or a Duke LaCross or Rolling Stone Mag thing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... eport.html

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/ ... 8-06-41-39

and this:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01 ... ant-rapes/

Anyway I think the big picture is that this massive influx of migrants from N Africa and other Muslim nations into predominately Christian areas (even if most of them never stepped into a church) is creating a fault line that skews right. If you thought even 5 percent were rapists/murderers you would be afraid of everyone since you have no way to know who are the bad apples until it is too late. So it will strengthen the tribe mentality. I really have a hard time understanding this push for multiculturalism by the hard left. Seems to me you are running a big risk of just creating future crisis fault lines.

I am not an expert on the French Revolution, but things boiled for many years.

A few interesting points

1) The Monarchy and Aristocracy ( lords etc. ) had arbitrary power and were wealthy. ( essentially above the law since they wrote it )

2) the Catholic Church was wealthy and had extensive land holdings.

3) The monarchy and church worked together to control the masses and flaunted their wealth.

4) outside events created a crises - In 1788, on the eve of the French Revolution, a drought hit France and caused severe crop failure http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/w ... ature.html
( a nature's joker )

During the revolution the assets of the aristocracy and church were confiscated.

During the revolution the French motto ""liberty, equality, fraternity" -- ( which one could argue is at least socialist and anti individual ). The first to have made this motto was Maximilien Robespierre " who " "In more recent times his reputation has suffered as historians associate him with radical purification of politics by the killing of enemies" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilien_Robespierre

It is an interesting period, a period that one would not like to be in, especially when the anti monarchy/lord sympathizer paranoia took hold and any suspect was sent to the guillotine. It provided an effective way to deal with one's "enemies" For example you owed someone money and you couldn't pay, accused him of sympathizing with the monarchy and of he goes to the guillotine, no more debt. nice huh.

[Guest]

Germany has been trying to destroy Europe for the last 80 years. It looks like this time they'll do it.

[solomani]

I like your overall analysis of events and I turn a blind eye to some of your more unusual assertions -like the cyborg future you seem keen on- but arguing that rape is how humanity has multiplied over the centuries and that women may even like it is beyond the pale. Human civilisation has spread, prospered and grown through the cornerstone of the family not through rape.

[John]

> I like your overall analysis of events and I turn a blind eye to
> some of your more unusual assertions -like the cyborg future you
> seem keen on- but arguing that rape is how humanity has
> multiplied over the centuries and that women may even like it is
> beyond the pale. Human civilisation has spread, prospered and
> grown through the cornerstone of the family not through
> rape.

I can tell you're a very romantic guy, probably with a family
including a daughter or two. They're lucky to have you.

But in the end, we're all viscerally under the control of our hormones
and our base emotions, the raw drives necessary for the survival of
any species.

Before taking up Generational Dynamics, I worked for 12 years
on a book on gender issues:

"Fraternizing with the Enemy: A book on gender issues for men
and for women who care about men"
http://jxenakis.com/gdgraphics/Fraterni ... eEnemy.pdf

You might enjoy reading it.

[shoshin]

John, we humans are less prisoners of our urges than you give us credit. Read " The Bonobo and the Atheist ."

We can play nice.

[John]

> John, we humans are less prisoners of our urges than you give us
> credit. Read " The Bonobo and the Atheist ."

> We can play nice.

Oh, really? I guess that's why there are no inappropriate love
affairs. Or unexpected pregnancies. Or crimes of passion. Or
genocidal civil wars between people who have lived together for
decades, and intermarried. Nope. We're all entirely rational.