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[aedens]

http://enenews.com/

https://1888.org/images/2011/02/24/5589 ... nd-new.jpg

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-re ... =afterbell

[aedens]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Thomas_Paine

https://freedomandvirtue.files.wordpres ... -quote.jpg

http://www.antipas.org/books/protesters/prot_14.html

Rome commented after Carthage the end of Molech, or Molek for some for contextual knit picking as the gastly
sounds from within withered as they beat the drums. Nero wrapped them linen for torches

http://www.bing.com/search?q=+Harvestin ... ORM=IE8SRC
Now they harvest. Season indeed is here as warned. No map from hell exists.

The souls under the alter will be heard.

cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate, and He shall destroy

Franklin was correct you have three choices.

http://www.au.int/en/sites/default/file ... port_0.pdf hell defined

[Nathan G]

You know, I only just realized recently that you people seem to actually believe the world is coming to an end via the coming generation crisis. That of course is ludicrous because of the very principal of the generation theory. The generation theory, and similar mathematical approaches to history, clearly describe history as a continuous cycle of crisis and awakening. Yes a crisis is coming, but as Jesus predicted "there will be wars and rumors of wars, but this is not the end". It will be followed by a high, then an awakening, then an unraveling (although John's shortening of saeculum lengths seems to remove unraveling?), then another crisis, followed by a high, etc., etc. There are larger cycles of course, as described by Peter Turchin, that help shape the changing nature of one saeculum vs. another, but the point is that it's still cyclic.

[John]

> You know, I only just realized recently that you people seem to
> actually believe the world is coming to an end via the coming
> generation crisis. That of course is ludicrous because of the very
> principal of the generation theory. The generation theory, and
> similar mathematical approaches to history, clearly describe
> history as a continuous cycle of crisis and awakening. Yes a
> crisis is coming, but as Jesus predicted "there will be wars and
> rumors of wars, but this is not the end". It will be followed by a
> high, then an awakening, then an unraveling (although John's
> shortening of saeculum lengths seems to remove unraveling?), then
> another crisis, followed by a high, etc., etc. There are larger
> cycles of course, as described by Peter Turchin, that help shape
> the changing nature of one saeculum vs. another, but the point is
> that it's still cyclic.

I don't know who "you people" are, but there's a wide variety of
views.

Aedens makes many posts relating current events to "last times" in the
Bible, and he may actually believe that "the world is coming to an
end" in that sense.

Higgenbotham does not believe the world is coming to an end. He
relates current events to the horrific 1300s, with the Black Plague
and the 100 Years War, and he paints a picture of a world reverting to
the Middle Ages that won't be rebuilt again for centuries.

I'm more "optimistic" than either of them. As I've written many
times, we're headed for a new world war which will not end the world
any more than WW II ended the world. By the end of the war, every
nuclear weapon will have been used on some target. I estimate that
some 3-4 billion people will be killed by nuclear weapons, ground war,
disease and famine, with 3-4 billion people left over to rebuild the
world. However, I've also said that the Singularity is coming around
2030, after which it's possible to predict anything.

Other people, like vincecate and shoshin, don't foresee anything more
terrible happening than just another ordinary war.

Do you have a relationship with Peter Turchin (i.e., personally know
him)? He hates Generational Dynamics, and probably me as well.

[vincecate]

Other people, like vincecate and shoshin, don't foresee anything more
terrible happening than just another ordinary war.

Well, vincecate does expect hyperinflation in paper money all over the world which will probably destroy economies everywhere. Not clear to me how far the fighting will go, but I expect the economic collapse will be drastic.

[Nathan G]

Aedens makes many posts relating current events to "last times" in the
Bible, and he may actually believe that "the world is coming to an
end" in that sense.

Higgenbotham does not believe the world is coming to an end. He
relates current events to the horrific 1300s, with the Black Plague
and the 100 Years War, and he paints a picture of a world reverting to
the Middle Ages that won't be rebuilt again for centuries.

I'm more "optimistic" than either of them. As I've written many
times, we're headed for a new world war which will not end the world
any more than WW II ended the world. By the end of the war, every
nuclear weapon will have been used on some target. I estimate that
some 3-4 billion people will be killed by nuclear weapons, ground war,
disease and famine, with 3-4 billion people left over to rebuild the
world. However, I've also said that the Singularity is coming around
2030, after which it's possible to predict anything.

Other people, like vincecate and shoshin, don't foresee anything more
terrible happening than just another ordinary war.

Do you have a relationship with Peter Turchin (i.e., personally know
him)? He hates Generational Dynamics, and probably me as well.

Considering that not all the world is even scheduled for a crisis era, I find the idea of a biblical level disaster across the globe very unlikely, let alone the death of billions of people.

I wish I knew Turchin more, and I am aware that he does not care for generation dynamics, but I personally believe there is a scenario where both saeculums and secular cycles happen concurrently, explaining why some saeculums are more peaceful than others.

[aedens]

Nathan to be clear.

Citizenship means nothing under this paradigm.

The Sun will come up. You miss the point.

You will be chipped, and are.

context to your conveyance

For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will mislead many. "You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes.…

key word we have discussed was "social" earthquakes.

context matters even in cycles

we have covered more than a few concepts that attach to define our consensus of accuracys

you know this already

Cliodynamics in a literal russian sense was written in Nikolai Dmitriyevich Kondratiev blood

who was supported by Vladimir Lenin. In the notes we know where both got the information.

Short cut for you will suffice as the dutch economist papers and another connection if you wish it

could be supplied from the sismondi network.
Histoire des républiques italiennes du moyen âge

Also we believe "suggest" the point the war never ended since the inception of the states.

https://1888.org/images/2011/02/24/5589 ... nd-new.jpg

You are more complicated Nathan than the russ connection.

Never send a human to do a machine's job.

The souls under the alter will be heard.

a from the grain colony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtmI6j3R-Y0

http://web.archive.org/web/201310121929 ... s_PNAS.pdf
http://www.wmich.edu/iscsc/articles.html

[aedens]

UrbanDictionary: Hibernating <verb> When smart people with poor social skills congregate to make fun of stupid people with good social skills.

[aedens]

They own you. You will die on your knees. I will not.

taqiyya and kitman - learn these fact before your eyes close

I know the words also.

You where warned 65 million where coming. You cannot deny.

meanwhile http://killedbypolice.net/

[aedens]

output/input ratio of agriculture to be around 1.4.14 For 0.7 Kilogram-Calories (kcal) of fossil energy

water wheat and weather will decide the next vice

as we noted rome ran out of calories per acre to survive

when they taxed the actual fruit bearing trees it simply snapped

simply put the U.S. food system consumes ten times more energy than it produces in food energy

even with the modification seen it will be ignored

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wafRXFGQDP0