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Higgenbotham wrote:
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I think this fits me. Higgy expects things to stay down for more years than I do.
Optimism of some kind is probably necessary for the human race to exist, and my degree of pessimism is abnormal. Then again, it is perfectly logical to expect that any civilization will collapse, or that the stock market will go to zero, except that only the "odd duck" believes it can happen now. I did a search for "the stock market will go to zero" and only got 3 hits. Yet, I am thoroughly convinced that this will happen soon. However, we must also note that so far I have been incorrect in nearly every stock market forecast I have made since 2011. I am starting to short again tonight. Those who do believe the world will end also believe they will be saved in the rapture. I don't believe that either. There are some Arctic islands that will likely be unaffected, aside from the environmental contamination problems that have reached that area. I notice even Iceland has thoroughly integrated itself into the world system and I wonder for what reason. Obviously they do not see things as I do.

http://lightgateblogger.wordpress.com/2 ... ar-beyond/

This is the only other person who is talking about the stock market going to zero and I thought the essay he wrote was excellent.
Higgenbotham, then this should cheer you up -- sarcasm -- If Economic Cycle Theorists Are Correct, 2015 To 2020 Will Be Devastating For The US
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-1 ... stating-us
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Of course, you could take the approach of the supposed "Atlanteans" that "knew" and just watch the "interesting" event unfold, it could be quite a show. Not something that one sees very often.
The other option is to become a hunter gather and try to survive in some vast wilderness area ( they do exist ) but it might be a bit rough.

cheers
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gerald wrote:Higgenbotham, then this should cheer you up -- sarcasm -- If Economic Cycle Theorists Are Correct, 2015 To 2020 Will Be Devastating For The US
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-1 ... stating-us
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Of course, you could take the approach of the supposed "Atlanteans" that "knew" and just watch the "interesting" event unfold, it could be quite a show. Not something that one sees very often.
The other option is to become a hunter gather and try to survive in some vast wilderness area ( they do exist ) but it might be a bit rough.

cheers
G, this comment at the end of the article did cheer me up.
Tue, 05/13/2014 - 20:13 | 4757151 localsavage

Wait...we can't just keep printing our way to sucess?
As far as what to do, if I were 32 (or younger), yes, I would be out in the wilderness now. Doubt I would live past 40-45 but it would be the odds on bet.

But those who are thinking about economic cycles are thinking, well, cyclically. As in, "I think the S&P is going to 400 - it's going to be really bad." What I'm talking about is, economically speaking, the powers that be have figured out how to carry the economy up to the top of the Empire State Building and toss it off top of the building instead of letting it roll down the hill on its own. That's not a cycle anymore. It looks fantastic on the way up - views are great - and even over the edge until the acceleration of gravity starts to work.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Water is the judgement
Wheat is the word to live
Weather is what will be
The seal has been discussed
The four soils are the seeds
The three choices are simple
The two are the comforter left behind and the price paid
The father will decide

The Elders said not to consider this short journey
since the seal is known to those.
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...and they will continue to vote Democrat, and they are.

I know 26,284 got here from the State department lets murder Iraq for some yellow cake later we sold to the Canadians.
Ask a Canadian to take all of Detriot but that would be cruel to the Socialist in Canada.

http://news.yahoo.com/orr-tells-michiga ... 29011.html Orr tells Michigan lawmakers: 'We need your money' No, grow up.

Art Bubble Also Cracking As 21 Of 71 Works Fail To Sell At Latest Sotheby's Auction
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-0 ... ys-auction

$194.8 million lump-sum payment from Michigan's savings account to match contributions from foundations and the Detroit Institute of Arts to prevent steep cuts in pensions and the sale of city-owned art. A retiree with a $20,000 annual pension could lose $8,000 if the Legislature does not follow through on the pledge by Gov. Rick Snyder to help settle largest public bankruptcy in U.S. history, Orr said.

Recent local numbers last 60 days for us outside in the real world also in michigan:

21.8 percent of children living in poverty 2011, a jump of 30 percent since 2005 in our area.

4 out of every 10 children live in poverty it was conveyed now 2014. Years we watched, years they ignored.


The Obama administration had requested $1.3bn in military aid for Egypt or the $3.1bn to Israel in 2014
Move Detroit to the White House as soon as possible to hang out with 0

I will check who voted what....

Jonathan Bernstein Nov 04, 2013
Last week’s buzzword was “kludge,” as everyone from Paul Krugman to Michael Lind decided that the Affordable Care Act was a perfect example of “What’s Wrong With America.” It’s an argument that Steven Teles made recently in an important essay at National Affairs . For Teles, a political scientist from Johns Hopkins, the way the United States is governed has become increasingly incoherent and even unworkable in policy domain after policy domain. His diagnosis is that our current state of affairs is the result of the accumulation of “kludges”—a term from computer programming for temporary patches. U.S. policy is dominated, he argues, by these ad hoc workarounds, rather than systematic policies. In the short run, make-do kludges are often good enough. But over time, they pile up, one upon another, and the result eventually becomes impossible for anyone to make sense of. Moreover, even when total policy catastrophe is avoided, ad-hoc “solutions” are rarely efficient, and all those... http://prospect.org/article/long-live-kludge

Fire Washington first since the Grave yard of Empires was warned and your parasites are killing whats left.

In our country (the former U.S.S.R.) the lie has become not just a moral category,
but a pillar of the State. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Gulag prisoner and great (but unknown in the US) Russian writer Vasily Grossman

“I used to think freedom was freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of conscience. But freedom is the whole life of everyone. Here is what it amounts to: you have to have the right to sow what you wish to, to make shoes or coats, to bake into bread the flour ground from the grain you have sown, and to sell it or not sell it as you wish; for the lathe operator, the steelworker, and the artist it’s a matter of being able to live as you wish and work as you wish and not as they order you to. And in our country there is no freedom – not for those who write books nor for those who sow grain nor for those who make shoes.”

"And thus I clothe my naked villainy
With odd old ends stol'n out of holy writ;
And seem a saint, when most I play the devil."

One clip in one clip out,
the grain colony
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A farmer who pursued a profitable plan of feeding his cattle sawdust as a cheaper alternative to corn. He continued to up the percentage of sawdust mixed into the feed, amazed that he was noticing hardly any negative effects. Until one day he goes out to check on his cattle only to discover them all dead and instantly goes into a rant as he just can't understand why, just when he gets them on 100% sawdust, they up and die. This is our world. They continue to layer more and more theft and tyranny upon our backs and we continue on. They believe that there are those ignorant and flawed individuals who suffer the illness of greed so deeply that they will continue to struggle to profit even when taxed 100% while enduring every law and regulation imaginable. They will not be satisfied with simply taking their wealth and liberties, but will also demean and insult them. At some point we cattle will simply lie down and there will be no one more shocked and surprised than those who have sought to oppress the productive class of the world. ow

They will never see it coming...but it is coming.

http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/data/rms_sdrv.aspx
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http://criminology.wikia.com/wiki/Social_Bond_Theory

I would not go that far Chief, but sometimes it rather painful to watch, to quote the gentleman from Mexico who has a valid point.
They do not understand how civilization came into being and what is required to keep it going. They are comparable to monkeys flying an airplane.

Fluoxetine Administered to Juvenile Monkeys: Effects on the Serotonin Transporter and Behavior.

Fluoxetine had no significant effect on the behavioral measures. Yes we already knew that guys in monkeys but such fun watching the humanoids in meetings with Hives, inability to sit still, itching, restlessness skin rash, Chills or fever joint or muscle pain Anxiety cold sweats confusion convulsions (seizures) cool pale skin diarrhea difficulty with concentration drowsiness dryness of the mouth excessive hunger fast or irregular heartbeat headache increased sweating increased thirst lack of energy mood or behavior changes overactive reflexes purple or red spots on the skin racing heartbeat shakiness or unsteady walk shivering or shaking, feeling and acting with excitement and activity you cannot control trouble with breathing unusual or incomplete body or facial movements unusual tiredness or weakness Incidence not known Abdominal or stomach pain agitation back or leg pains bleeding gums blindness blistering. Some side effects of fluoxetine may occur that usually do not need medical attention. These side effects may go away during treatment as your body adjusts to the medicine. Also, your health care professional may be able to tell you about ways to prevent or reduce some of these side effects. Check with your health care professional if any of the following side effects continue.

Instead of an example of the spontaneous transmission of ideas, I think the story of the Japanese monkeys is a good example of the propagation of a paradigm shift, as in Thomas Kuhn’s The Structure of Scientific Revolutions. The truly innovative points of view tend to come from those on the edge between youth and adulthood. The older generation continues to cling to the world view they grew up with. The new idea does not become universal until the older generation withdraws from power, and a younger generation matures within the new point of view. It is also an example of the way that simple innovations can lead to extensive cultural change. By using the water in connection with their food, the Koshima monkeys began to exploit the sea as a resource in their environment. Sweet potato washing led to wheat washing, and then to bathing behavior and swimming, and the utilization of sea plants and animals for food. "Therefore, provisioned monkeys suffered changes in their attitude and value system and were given foundations on which pre-cultural phenomena developed." (M Kawai, Primates, Vol 6, #1, 1965).

Until they consider events can transcend reality of the scribes. http://www.amazon.com/dp/0875847161/?ta ... verfl08-20
http://books.google.co.za/books?id=x_hf ... ng&f=false

Here is a quote from an "anthropology professor who's worked with hundreds of monkeys over the last 30 years."
When asked what he thought of the experiment, he responded succinctly with: If you have bananas on a pole, you'll lose your bananas. Meeting dismissed.

“Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.” Euripides http://www.breggin.com/index.php?option ... view&id=55

All wars are bankster. Good luck drilling in the Donetsk and Azov region.

bonding - defer - prosaic nation - Serotonin Solar Cycle Activity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPupROGv-sc yes dear
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aedens wrote:Thanks Senator X for the US government approved mercenary murder squads.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/u ... 68745.html
http://en.shiapost.com/2014/05/05/s-ara ... o-ukraine/
http://consortiumnews.com/2013/04/07/re ... s-in-iraq/
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/08/08 ... th-squads/

The government will meet its obligations by handing out brand-new printed dollars, with declining purchasing power, and the old folks will have to depend on what support they can beg from their tax-ridden children. Men live by production, but the State lives by appropriation. While the haves and the have-nots struggle over the division of existing wealth, it is the business of the State to improve itself at the expense of both; it picks up the marbles while the boys are fighting. That has been the story of men in organized society since the beginning.

"The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down ... but an end run on national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault."
-- Richard Gardner - Council on Foreign Relations Journal, April 1974, Page 558
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f6b_1399974144 unconfirmed

Tags: Ukraine, Blackwater, Mercenary, Academi, SOKOL
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http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/chr ... ing-islam/

Since the ones kidnapped by now are forced to convert or die as before, the razor blades will come out. Wake up you idiots.
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Now, those cartels and their farmers complain that marijuana legalization is hurting their business. And some reports could suggest that the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) is more interested in helping to protect the Mexican cartels’ hold on the pot trade than in letting it dissipate. The Washington Post reported on Tuesday that pot farmers in the Sinaloa region have stopped planting due to a massive drop in wholesale prices, from $100 per kilo down to only $25. One farmer is quoted as saying: “It’s not worth it anymore. I wish the Americans would stop with this legalization.”

“Is it hurting the cartels? Yes. The cartels are criminal organizations that were making as much as 35-40 percent of their income from marijuana,” Nelson said, “They aren’t able to move as much cannabis inside the US now.”

In 2012, a study by the Mexican Competitiveness Institute found that US state legalization would cut into cartel business and take over about 30 percent of their market.

Given the DEA’s historic relationship with the Sinaloa cartel, and the agency’s fury over legalized marijuana, it almost seems like the DEA wants to crush the legal weed market in order to protect the interests of their cartel friends. Almost.

Not almost, that is exactly what they want to do.

“The DEA doesn’t want the drug war to end,” said Nelson, when asked about a possible connection between the agency’s hatred of legal pot and its buddies in Sinaloa. “If it ends, they don’t get their toys and their budgets. Once it ends, they aren’t going to have the kind of influence in foreign government. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but where there’s smoke there’s probably fire.”

The Sinaloa cartel came to prominence in January when the “Fast and Furious” scandal surfaced, in which it was revealed that DEA agents ignored Sinaloa drug shipments and essentially granted immunity to cartel criminals in exchange for information.

Another way the DEA tries to shut down legal marijuana dispensaries, and medical marijuana clinics, is through the banks. While large banks like HSBC and Wachovia have gotten away with laundering billions in cartel drug money, famously referred to as “too big to jail” by Attorney General Eric Holder, banks have been meticulously instructed by the DEA not to work with any kind of marijuana facility.

That’s pennies compared to what the US spends on the drug war. According to the Drug Policy Alliance, we spend $51 billion per year fighting illegal drugs. A 2010 study by Harvard economist Jeffrey Miron found that not only would the US save tremendous amounts of money were it to end drug prohibition, legalizing could bring in an additional $46.7 billion in yearly tax revenue.

“We’ve spent 1.3 trillion since 1972 on the drug war. What have we gotten for that? Drugs are cheaper and easier to get than ever before,” Nelson told VICE News. http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2014/05/14 ... more-13161

I expect the market to tank in mexico and drag us down.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texa ... Immigrants
It is easy to surmise why the Washington, D.C. bureau instructed ICE agents around the country to not talk about the shocking CIS report, as it raises questions about the Obama Administration's enforcement policies. The newly-released figures also may prompt concerns regarding public safety.

The CIS report claimed that the 36,000 released criminals were collectively convicted of 88,000 crimes. These convictions include 426 sexual assaults, 303 kidnappings, 193 homicides, 1,317 domestic violence assaults, and 1,724 weapon offenses.

water - wheat - weather, its coming from the four corners. They want it that way, fire Holder and find a brain that functions.
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http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/n ... -2014.html

down of around 2% per week the next 2 weeks to the area of the early Feb low of 1800 to 1815 maybe lower

http://www.safehaven.com/article/33259/ ... -in-threes

Beware of the Kitchin Cycle peak on a three count, especially as the peaks are a neat 7 years span. Spooky. Get the feeling that if stocks roll over in 2014 (any time between March and Oct) hard metals like gold will find new strength.
There are two cycle formats in the chart, a FIXED (Kitchin) and a ADAPTIVE (RTTHurstDPO). The adaptive cycle takes into account the ability of price to conform to the cycle, the more it does the more the cycle looks like an attractive swing.

Please survive 2014.

I did increase my short ratio to glide into this early june window. sh corr qre increased.
And I tend to agree http://thefinancialtap.com/2014/05

Your right H on the empire drop thought.
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