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Higgenbotham
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gerald wrote:There will always be conflict ( male/female, positive/negative { as in a battery} hot/cold , etc. ) it is built into creation.
There seems to be a lot less conflict during this crisis period than there has been in past crisis periods. Apple and China Mobile announced a deal on Sunday that will open China's largest market to Apple. Why would China do this? They could instead keep their market to themselves. It may be because the psychopaths who run these countries and large corporations have more in common with each other now than they do with their compatriots in their own countries. Apple can use Chinese slave labor to build phones in China and sell high end phones to rich Chinese and rich Americans. Meanwhile, it may be that China has plans to use more Chinese slave labor to build cheap phones and sell them to the slaves who build the phones and the slaves who work at Wal-Mart selling phones to other American low wage slaves. Since the crisis erupted, Germany has been willing to sacrifice its sovereignty, staying in the European Union and bailing out peripheral countries in the Union, probably to the detriment of some of their own citizens but to the obvious benefit of the European elite. The question is when do the elites in the various countries get into conflict with each other? I see a division between the financial elites and the military elites. The financial elites are now in control and pushing globalism. They are aiming to cut militaries. Meanwhile, the military elites have an interest in maintaining the old order where countries are in conflict with other countries. I believe the financial elites would like to pit the military against the citizen slaves of their own countries or less preferentially the citizen slaves of other countries. The military elites, especially the Chinese military elites, don't seem to have much interest in that. How will all this shake out? Will the military elites take over these countries and kick the financial elites out? Or will the next financial crisis be the end of rule by the financial elites as the citizens drag the financial elites into the streets and kill them while the military stands by and does nothing, knowing who their enemies really are? Or is some other conflict scenario more likely?
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Act_1751

Must save them from themselves with another hidden tax.

An example today is to gin up a not complex computer program. Urban dictionary - The meaning of gin up is to create or generate, usually something nontrivial.

Taxpayers are nothing but blood bags in the improved vampire economy. http://www.amazon.com/Vampire-Economy-D ... B000XG6RRQ

Politicians and religious leaders argued that gin drinking encouraged laziness and criminal behaviour.

Fabians and the IRS cargo cult will tax it to the point of induced collapse and keep it there, and take over another sector as in now health care for your own good with a smiling panel of experts
to manage the population. http://www.americanprogress.org/about/s ... -zeke/bio/

Locals note: They are fleeing Puerto Rico for the same reason that everyone else is - decades of dependence on US welfare has destroyed the island's economy and culture.
Only criminals and the poor are seen on most streets. This is what "social programs" accomplish.

Puerto Rico - Low Income Taxpayer Clinics (LITCs) The "blueprint " just as before on the sticky wages forumed so now today as was our area was also before.
Welcome to what we seen when we watched countless who lost half benefits and one third wages as they even blindly subsidized the blue prints of plant closing.
When we fought to eliminate taxpayer subsidized plant removals you called us Marxists.

Rule number 1 to parlance speak > Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule … Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
Welcome to your voter elected redbones so it is your turn today. You voted what you deserved.

Taxpayers are reminded that the president’s healthcare law is one of the largest tax increases in American history.
Obamacare contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses.

On 12 March 1977, Rutilio Grande, a progressive Jesuit priest and personal friend of Romero who had been creating self-reliance groups among the poor campesinos, was assassinated. His death had a profound impact on Romero, who later stated, "When I looked at Rutilio lying there dead I thought, 'If they have killed him for doing what he did, then I too have to walk the same path'".

I am not a marxist or was Romero, people must decide the means of production and property rights from the works of there hands and votes.
Wake up. Know the difference between liberation theology termed village idiots and rampant secular fabian cheerful idiots today.

Rinse and repeat and live like the taxpayer slaves you currently are. The silent war is real is you take the time to read things like books...

Taxpayers are created as warned so when you walk in the circle your screwing yourself into the dirt and they take what they want while you do.


"The rules of morality are not the conclusions of our reason." - David Hume

Hayek updated the facts as the Fatal Deceit and the well trodden road to serfdom we are on.
Follow what we have provided with his new Detroit and the 100 of the complex that was provided......
https://mises.org/books/TRTS/ Thus ends the road to Serdom!
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gerald
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Higgenbotham wrote:
gerald wrote:There will always be conflict ( male/female, positive/negative { as in a battery} hot/cold , etc. ) it is built into creation.
There seems to be a lot less conflict during this crisis period than there has been in past crisis periods. Apple and China Mobile announced a deal on Sunday that will open China's largest market to Apple. Why would China do this? They could instead keep their market to themselves. It may be because the psychopaths who run these countries and large corporations have more in common with each other now than they do with their compatriots in their own countries. Apple can use Chinese slave labor to build phones in China and sell high end phones to rich Chinese and rich Americans. Meanwhile, it may be that China has plans to use more Chinese slave labor to build cheap phones and sell them to the slaves who build the phones and the slaves who work at Wal-Mart selling phones to other American low wage slaves. Since the crisis erupted, Germany has been willing to sacrifice its sovereignty, staying in the European Union and bailing out peripheral countries in the Union, probably to the detriment of some of their own citizens but to the obvious benefit of the European elite. The question is when do the elites in the various countries get into conflict with each other? I see a division between the financial elites and the military elites. The financial elites are now in control and pushing globalism. They are aiming to cut militaries. Meanwhile, the military elites have an interest in maintaining the old order where countries are in conflict with other countries. I believe the financial elites would like to pit the military against the citizen slaves of their own countries or less preferentially the citizen slaves of other countries. The military elites, especially the Chinese military elites, don't seem to have much interest in that. How will all this shake out? Will the military elites take over these countries and kick the financial elites out? Or will the next financial crisis be the end of rule by the financial elites as the citizens drag the financial elites into the streets and kill them while the military stands by and does nothing, knowing who their enemies really are? Or is some other conflict scenario more likely?
Higgenbotham --- I do not know about the above, but there are always jokers in the deck. ------------ Conflict has ebbs and flows --- a concept from geology and war ( obviously having different time scales ) ----- The Concept -- periods of status, stability, and boredom, - punctuated by brief periods of cataclysmic change or terror.

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Higgenbotham wrote: > There seems to be a lot less conflict during this crisis period
> than there has been in past crisis periods.
I've thought all about this. I first noticed it in 2004 or
thereabouts, when I saw some research that said that there
had been a lot fewer wars than before the 1990s.

My conclusion is this: Even if they don't know what a generational
crisis era is, when a nation enters such an era, then people sense
intuitively that the world is a much more dangerous place than
it had been previously, and so they take fewer risks.

So a nation in an Awakening era might risk a military action,
because they sense that there won't be an all-out response.
But in a crisis era, they would be less willing to risk a
military action, because they sense that it would lead to
all-out war.
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Could forum members do something for me?

Please go to the main web site, http://www.generationaldynamics.com,
and trying clicking on a few links, and see if you get
server resets. Just try about twenty or thirty clicks, and
let me know if there are any problems, or if they go smoothly.

I'm getting plenty of server resets, and I'm trying to determine
whether it's happening to everyone, or just to me.

Thanks,

John
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Higgenbotham --- An interesting read on zero hedge regarding the financial media ---The New Paradigm of Financial Media--
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/20 ... cial-media

Also some of the comments are worth reading.
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John wrote:Could forum members do something for me?

Please go to the main web site, http://www.generationaldynamics.com,
and trying clicking on a few links, and see if you get
server resets. Just try about twenty or thirty clicks, and
let me know if there are any problems, or if they go smoothly.

I'm getting plenty of server resets, and I'm trying to determine
whether it's happening to everyone, or just to me.

Thanks,

John
Several times I have tried to log on and get -----------500 -internal server error -------
hope this helps
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gerald wrote: Several times I have tried to log on and get -----------500 -internal server error -------
hope this helps
Thanks. Anyone else?
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John wrote:
gerald wrote: Several times I have tried to log on and get -----------500 -internal server error -------
hope this helps
Thanks. Anyone else?
Same here, it happened this morning when I went on, and then a single refresh fixes it. It's done that several times today including just a few seconds ago.
Higgenbotham
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Same thing here.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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