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Higgenbotham wrote:If there's going to be an attempt to rally the stock market I think it will come from here.
If Friday is another down day, then after people think about their investments over the weekend, there will probably be a lot of selling on Monday.
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Until the dome reversal pattern stops first. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=George+Lindsa ... +formation Dogmatic beliefs will be (and have been) punished. CCI commodity index topped in early 2011; 2 years ago.
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I was having a discussion today and conveyed how quick we dismiss views to effects.
The context was twofold, one was a government conveyance we will make him sane for trial
with drugs. The arrogance was miles thick when the first thought was that only.
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The second item was after months of treatment they had him in a jail and pronounced
he now flushes the stool and it was trial time very soon.
As I alluded to in the forums when some carbon based units on prescriptions for so called induced sanity
or as in the day during the depression diet so many effects do transpire, as we use the contextual term from
Hayek the seen and unseen methods deposited from, and on society it is difficult since they cannot
even consider a simple blood test would be a better start at times. The other side of the conversation
was the other four steps the student missed and the convesation leveled that another letter was
forwarded. No this one was not it but another thought focus was a children after food in a actual garbage
pit in Europe. Many factors for hard left and hard right of consequences over time from statist we will drug
them sane and poor diet causing severe affictions in the market of the reality of decisions.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-1 ... -cans-food
http://www.amazon.com/The-Conscience-Ps ... 098245600X
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19892133
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSB ... 4?irpc=932
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I seen your conveyance Higg and fiat algo suicide is not a financial option. As mentioned with even james5 and Amos unfolding
my target views weighs very heavy. I even have other complications on targeting and regressionary models to unfold yet.
Right now without discipline and conviction the mindset of quo bono is a morning mist to retrograded ideologues.
Give back the Letter to the People and the rest shall be. Follow the Book and the window to the soul is refreshed
if they have eyes and ears. When you ignore the owners manual and follow the pervasive thread to the next chapter they are
unable to be humbled to be restored. As it was conveyed, to renew the mind or the seal that will be set upon it.
Another said it better today, we are the beast. I will convey to be earnest and meet him half way on that timeless truth.
We covered these issues here already to what was coming H, its there... The warn reboot, we did our duty.
If they cannot feed children and the orphans first the hour is indeed short as it should be since if you do not seek that justice
you are unable to be regarded as a vessel of hope in any leadership role. And with it we know what follows....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hThojuXmPVY
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Some positions maybe to be opened mid week after brutal review. Nothing elaborate at this point, if at all to be blunt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VOWnnEphjI they could care less with macro facts and rot, to separate the real issue.
We covered that also H of Pathological Rot, Hubris, Avarice, typical day on Terra Firma.
No matter the course the Office is the letter from the founders I support.
This is not a blue red issue now or had been for some time.
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vincecate wrote:
Higgenbotham wrote:If there's going to be an attempt to rally the stock market I think it will come from here.
If Friday is another down day, then after people think about their investments over the weekend, there will probably be a lot of selling on Monday.
The futures are up about 6 points this morning and I think they bring the futures up overnight to have higher prices to sell into in the morning. If there's another big round of selling today like there was on Friday, October 19, 2007 (22 quarters ago after the previous all time high on the 11th, just as we saw this quarter) then it's probably all over for sure - there may be a counter trend rally toward the high but it probably won't come out.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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The decision of Spain is not publicly known yet. In France
they expect it in their favour.* Some here still think it will be a
neutrality (this word appears to be spelled incorectly in the original text
and I corrected it). Did one judge any longer by the Stocks, the augury
would be good. They cannot reasonably have risen, as they have
done, on the diminutive success in Georgia, which has not even
encouraged the victors to hope to advance, without what they are
far from receiving, a reinforcement. Nor are we more prosperous
against D'Estaing ; nor is the capture of eight or nine Domingomen
very beneficial to stockholders : but so much industry is used of late
in bolstering up the Stocks, that they are no longer the weather-
glass of fortune, but part of the mask employed to disguise the
nation's own face to itself.
1811. TO SIR HORACE MANN.
Strawberry Hill, April 24, 1779.

http://www.archive.org/stream/cu3192408 ... 7_djvu.txt

I tried to find a detailed chart of British stock prices from this crisis period. There are some long term stock price charts that have the appearance of British stock prices being held up for a long time during the crisis, then abruptly crashing over about 3 years and making a low in 1782.

The excerpt from this letter seems like it applies well to the US at this time.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Price discovery is no issue now is it. HFT is for the others now. Good Luck. As for the rest spin all you wish since that is not a long term plan but focuses the obvious. We just walk away since conversation is not for the for the self induced illusions of it. A pretense of knowledge in the medicated land of total Babel. What was actively done before is now called brain storming since standards are rock bottom. As the note taken down earlier conveyed the model noted of a 4.6% decline the experts could not fathom the over 16% percent hit. Sets the tone for some normal people who are suffered with a majority as clearly articulated before. As a review from the Austrians since it is obvious the mathematical shamans have no explanation we are reminded the mobility of the investor manifests itself in the phenomenon misleadingly called capital flight. Individual investors can go away from investments which they consider unsafe provided that they are ready to take the loss already discounted by the market. Thus they can protect themselves against anticipated further losses and shift them to people who are less realistic in their appraisal of the future prices of the goods concerned. Capital flight does not withdraw inconvertible capital goods from the lines of their investment. It consists merely in a change of ownership.

Wieser was right when he once declared that many economists have unwittingly dealt with the value theory of communism and have on that account neglected to elaborate that of the present state of society.
Friedrich von Wieser, Der naturliche Wert (Vienna, 1889), p. 60
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Higgenbotham wrote: Wednesday, November 3, 2010 (QE2 announced) to Friday, March 11, 2011 (Fukushima) is 128 days.

Wednesday, December 12, 2012 (QE4 announced) to Friday, April 19, 2013 is 128 days.
That comparison was noted a few weeks ago. March 11, 2011 is marked on the chart.

My read of the weak Friday rally is the market has a good probability of collapsing next week. The pattern looks most like the post QE2 announcement period and the trendline has been broken similarly.

A collapse back to and below the 30 week moving average at 1475 on the S&P does not seem outside the realm of possibility.
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vincecate wrote:If Friday is another down day, then after people think about their investments over the weekend, there will probably be a lot of selling on Monday.
Even though Friday wasn't down, the setup looks to be there for a lot of selling on Monday. I'm still 100% short and assuming that will happen unless we see otherwise.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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