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Higgenbotham
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I was listening to an old youtube video from 2010 with Bill Moyers and James Galbraith. Galbraith said everybody thinks we had an economic breakdown but what we really had was an economic breakdown and a breakdown in the legal system.

But I think what we really had at its core was a breakdown in the value system. Values like hard work is rewarded, play by the rules or be punished, honesty is the best policy (been so long since I heard that one I almost forgot it).
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Bill Moyers is way over on the left. The article aedens references is
Bill Moyers complaining about alleged attempts to limit a "truly free
and independent press." He gives one dubious example after another of
the right supposedly trying to limit the liberal press. But there's
not a single mention of the well-funded attempts that have been going
on for over a decade to try to get Fox News and Rush Limbaugh off the
air.

In fact, Moyers joins in with this, by whining about Murdoch.

I agree that we've had a breakdown of the value system. But Bill
Moyers is oblivious to that, since he and NPR are part of the
breakdown of the value system.

A major theme of my new book was "honesty is the best policy,"
though I didn't use those exact words. I think I'll add them
in somewhere.
http://generationaldynamics.com/gx113

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The ditches are being filled with those before there time and the
message from 1927 was from the Academy's of knowledge
that understood they could take whatever they needed to maintain
the ditch diggers. Not that far off on the scale again.
The French extol as I read yesterday there health care status today
as there so called Union members in the south perish.
The middle east is spillover always.
We had a discussion on message at Home today
and conveyed if you want a message it is already being sent.

The article previous sends a clear message we all regard.
The one you feed. Some time back we had a crocodile warning
sign John posted as when we tossed back and forth topical
issues as we remembered as you soon forget why you are trying to drain
the swamp when the crocodiles are on your ass. Backing up to the
initial conveyance the press failed as the onset started for Stalin,
Hitler, Moa or any gathering Horse. The truth always suffers "those" first and then
the press suffers also to a degree. Relationships suffer as more run to cover
is my last point and we can only mitigate some value orientated
thoughts forward when we get time.
I enjoyed chapter three of the draft since I still see this and
the line between confidence and vanity for some cannot be seen
easily.
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Its back H "has fallen to a specific level and a nominal GDP level target."

Also beta marker segments are cooling so the Var people will be spinning soon.
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I think people in leadership positions like to think they can frame a problem so as to propose and administer a solution. For example, in Bernanke's case, he might say, yes, we had an economic breakdown and we can fix that with economic "tools". He doesn't look further than his narrow study. Galbraith may think that he has taken the wider view and, while purely economic solutions are too narrow to solve the problem, surely enforcing the law will. Surely it is correct to think that nothing can be solved without enforcing the laws that have upheld Western Civilization for 5 centuries. But it goes beyond that, I think. If people generally no longer hold the values that put the legal system in place and kept it in place so as to create and maintain an orderly society, then nothing is going to work to maintain it. And beyond that, no amount of news or quality or type of news will make any difference.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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From John's book:
When the war ended, the survivors established institutions and rules for society to follow so that it would never happen again.

Some of those rules are:

Stay out of debt.
Know your place -- in terms of gender and class.
Work hard and do your job.
Give highest priority to preserving your nation and its way of life.
Protect girls and women from rape
Be prepared for everything.
John, when I read this section it reminded me of what the GIs and Silents taught people, which included "Honesty is the best policy" either directly or indirectly.
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While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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They know point blank the public it brainless en mass. Brian Sussmann has nailed it dead on also on the other facet.

http://www.eco-tyranny.com/author/brian-sussman/

Like I conveyed earlier the book from 1927 listed point blank you will not even have the ability
to stop us since we are 90 percent already there. They nailed it dead on with there demented agenda's.
American's will again learn the same terrible lesson.

Here is some context on drilldown thinking.
The first American wave of mergers was in its infancy and was being promoted by the bankers. In 1897 there were sixty-nine industrial mergers. By 1899 there were twelve-hundred. In 1904 John Moody - founder of Moody’s Investor Services - said it was impossible to talk of Rockefeller and Morgan interests as separate. A very, very long time ago you learn who knows what. I have looked at many models as many and decided to take responsibity as we do here that it is our choice to lead and theres to take your ability away. The point is as John identify's in GD even if they understand they do not even pretend to care.
Our team is aware and navagating lets say.
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Some beta etf stocks funds are going to be powned I assume at this point IMO.
Sheep pens are not for skinning
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Higgenbotham wrote:From John's book:
When the war ended, the survivors established institutions and rules for society to follow so that it would never happen again.

Some of those rules are:

Stay out of debt.
Know your place -- in terms of gender and class.
Work hard and do your job.
Give highest priority to preserving your nation and its way of life.
Protect girls and women from rape
Be prepared for everything.
John, when I read this section it reminded me of what the GIs and Silents taught people, which included "Honesty is the best policy" either directly or indirectly.

I just added "Honesty is the best policy" to the list of rules.

John
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John, I think that little paragraph goes a very long way toward explaining why a crisis is needed and how it restores values (and order).
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