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Re: 29-Apr-17 World View -- Protesters storm Macedonia's parliament fearing calls for 'Greater Albania'

by FishbellykanakaDude » Thu May 04, 2017 11:34 pm

guest wrote:
FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
guest wrote:...the ice in your drink is melting.
That part is accurate! :)

<chuckle!>

Your "kind" is just as predictable as the melting of ice cubes...

Na pomaikaʻi ia ʻoe! Aloha to you, ia ʻoe, whether you want it or not. :)
The lack of a real response was exactly what I expected.
Give me some hints as to what a "real response" would look like. :) Be as detailed as possible.

..I aim to please!

Aloha!

Re: 29-Apr-17 World View -- Protesters storm Macedonia's parliament fearing calls for 'Greater Albania'

by guest » Thu May 04, 2017 10:31 am

FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
guest wrote:...the ice in your drink is melting.
That part is accurate! :)

<chuckle!>

Your "kind" is just as predictable as the melting of ice cubes...

Na pomaikaʻi ia ʻoe! Aloha to you, ia ʻoe, whether you want it or not. :)
The lack of a real response was exactly what I expected.

Re: 29-Apr-17 World View -- Protesters storm Macedonia's parliament fearing calls for 'Greater Albania'

by FishbellykanakaDude » Thu May 04, 2017 3:35 am

guest wrote:...the ice in your drink is melting.
That part is accurate! :)

<chuckle!>

Your "kind" is just as predictable as the melting of ice cubes...

Na pomaikaʻi ia ʻoe! Aloha to you, ia ʻoe, whether you want it or not. :)

Re: 29-Apr-17 World View -- Protesters storm Macedonia's parliament fearing calls for 'Greater Albania'

by guest » Mon May 01, 2017 7:16 pm

FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
guest wrote:For some reason "Ottoman Turk" was deleted from the sentence two times. A glitch?

The sentence should read: The Albanians fought against the Ottoman Turks harder than anyone, and they were the last to fall. The Albanians, even the Muslim Albanians, fought against the Ottoman Turks and never gave up fighting for their independence. g
Could "guest" have deleted "Ottoman Turk" from his/her own post to be able to claim "censorship victimhood" by the "evil" John?

..hmmmm..

I would suggest, "guest", that you simply state facts, as you know them, and provide sources as to why you consider your facts to be facts.

You're obviously anti-Serb, anti-Russian, anti-European in general, and only pro-US when they stomp on the Serbs, Russians and lead the Poser Europeans to stop wars by Serbs and Russians.

..just state your case, and keep the emotions on low simmer, please. :)

I understand the "need" of the young, such as yourself, to be effusive and morally indignant, but it really doesn't help, and it's the very reason that Generational Dynamics describes the way humanity works so well.

Two groups of people tend to indignation; The young "get 'er done!" group, and the just-about-to-die generation who can't control the youth any longer.

Your misspelling of "there" (you used "their"), more than once, is typical of the young. My guess is that's your group.

Aloha no ia kuʻu hoaloha! ( Love ʻya my dear friend! )
And you are completely wrong, Sherlock. Your arrogance is astounding. Your analysis is worthless. You are an idiot. You're nothing but a talker. You're just pompous. (Yeah, the Hawaiian doesn't impress me.) You should get a job working for the EU. You would fit right in. All talk, posing, and achieving nothing. Have you even been to the Balkans? I doubt it. I doubt you've done anything. Now go back to the bar; the ice in your drink is melting.

Re: 29-Apr-17 World View -- Protesters storm Macedonia's parliament fearing calls for 'Greater Albania'

by FishbellykanakaDude » Mon May 01, 2017 3:12 pm

guest wrote:For some reason "Ottoman Turk" was deleted from the sentence two times. A glitch?

The sentence should read: The Albanians fought against the Ottoman Turks harder than anyone, and they were the last to fall. The Albanians, even the Muslim Albanians, fought against the Ottoman Turks and never gave up fighting for their independence. g
Could "guest" have deleted "Ottoman Turk" from his/her own post to be able to claim "censorship victimhood" by the "evil" John?

..hmmmm..

I would suggest, "guest", that you simply state facts, as you know them, and provide sources as to why you consider your facts to be facts.

You're obviously anti-Serb, anti-Russian, anti-European in general, and only pro-US when they stomp on the Serbs, Russians and lead the Poser Europeans to stop wars by Serbs and Russians.

..just state your case, and keep the emotions on low simmer, please. :)

I understand the "need" of the young, such as yourself, to be effusive and morally indignant, but it really doesn't help, and it's the very reason that Generational Dynamics describes the way humanity works so well.

Two groups of people tend to indignation; The young "get 'er done!" group, and the just-about-to-die generation who can't control the youth any longer.

Your misspelling of "there" (you used "their"), more than once, is typical of the young. My guess is that's your group.

Aloha no ia kuʻu hoaloha! ( Love ʻya my dear friend! )

Re: 29-Apr-17 World View -- Protesters storm Macedonia's parliament fearing calls for 'Greater Albania'

by John » Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:47 pm

guest wrote: > For some reason "Ottoman Turk" was deleted from the sentence two
> times. A glitch?
If you're suggesting that I deleted these words from your post, it's
hard for me to imagine anything that I would be less likely to do.

If you'd like to be able to edit your own posts, then register in the
forum. Then if you make a mistake, you can click the "edit" button
and correct it.

You would also receive a notification when someone responds
to your post.
guest wrote: > The coming wars will be Serb lead campaigns of mass rape and
> genocide. Again. Only this time I doubt America will do
> anything. Without American leadership, Europe will do
> nothing.
That's not necessarily true.
  • World War I was a generational crisis war for the Balkans.
  • World War II was an Awakening era war for the Balkans.
  • The Bosnian war was another generational crisis war for the
    Balkans, and an Unraveling era war for the Europeans.
  • The next war will be an Awakening era war for the Balkans, but a
    crisis war for the Europeans.
So if you'd like to get some idea of how the Serbs and the Europeans
will behave in the next war, don't look at the Bosnian war. Instead,
do some research on how they behaved in World War II.

Re: 29-Apr-17 World View -- Protesters storm Macedonia's parliament fearing calls for 'Greater Albania'

by guest » Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:04 pm

Hypothetical or something else? Both.

I have a lot of experience in Balkan affairs. Personally dealing with these people and horrifying situations. I know the players well. Nothing that goes on there surprises me anymore. When I came there, I had only studied the history; I had no personal connections. (Through, by chance, I had met Serbs and Macedonians in America before). I can't go into specifics of what I was doing because I know that would not be a good idea for me personally. What I am saying is there are bad guys there. And the Bosnian Muslims and Albanians are not the bad ones. Not by any measure.

The coming wars will be Serb lead campaigns of mass rape and genocide. Again. Only this time I doubt America will do anything. Without American leadership, Europe will do nothing.

Europeans like to pose. Smoke cigarettes at a jaunty angle, and pose. They do nothing. Europeans hold conferences at five star hotels, and pose for the cameras. They quote long dead philosophers to journalists and each other,hoping to be quoted in a newspaper article or shallow memoir. Oh, and they practice their poses in hotel lobby mirrors.

The war drags on until America decides to stop it. Only this time, I don't think America will. But, I think one country will intervene militarily, and it will turn everything on its head. Turkey will attack. Greece and Cyprus will be trampled, mere speed bumps on the way to battle. Serbia, made up bullies and cowards, will crumble. Perhaps Russia will intervene.

Perhaps Western Europe will get to experience the mass rape,torture, and genocide the Bosnian Muslims endured in the 90s when Europe and America forbid the Muslims from getting weapons to defend themselves. Perhaps. I don't use templates the way you do, John. But I do believe in Karma.

Re: 29-Apr-17 World View -- Protesters storm Macedonia's parliament fearing calls for 'Greater Albania'

by guest » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:39 pm

For some reason "Ottoman Turk" was deleted from the sentence two times. A glitch?

The sentence should read: The Albanians fought against the Ottoman Turks harder than anyone, and they were the last to fall. The Albanians, even the Muslim Albanians, fought against the Ottoman Turks and never gave up fighting for their independence. g

Re: 29-Apr-17 World View -- Protesters storm Macedonia's parliament fearing calls for 'Greater Albania'

by John » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:22 pm

From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, groups, societies and
nations form identity groups based on a variety of demographic
factors, including religion, ethnicity, skin color and geography. In
the Balkans, all these demographic factors come into play, and
historically many people have been torn between different identity
groups because they belong to conflicting demographic groups.

Like it or not, the Balkans region has historically been part
of massive civilizational wars between Muslims and Orthodox
Christians. That would mean, for example, that the Christian
minority in Albania would be torn between the two sides. But it
would not change the fact that there is a major civilization war.
guest wrote: > In the next few weeks, perhaps war will break out in
> Balkans.
Are you stating this as a hypothetical for the sake of discussion, or
do you have some specific reason for actually believing this?

Re: 29-Apr-17 World View -- Protesters storm Macedonia's parliament fearing calls for 'Greater Albania'

by guest » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:12 pm

John wrote:Once again, the attempted coup in 2001 was an uprising by ethnic
Albanians. You're a total moron. By the way, you still haven't
identified yourself in any way, though it's obvious that you're an
extreme pro-Albanian ideologue.

"Villainizing the victims. How original, John."

This illustrates the crap that typically comes from extreme ideologues
like yourself. I'm just describing what happened during protests, and
relating it to centuries of wars between Muslims and Orthodox
Christians. To you that means I'm victimizing the poor, helpless
Albanians.
You're the total moron. I'm not even Albanian. I'm American. I have no Balkan DNA at all. And no, my wife isn't from their either. 2001 was an ethnic uprising, I've never denied that.(I haven't even brought it up.) You're creating things out of mid-air. I've been talking about what has been happening in 2016-17.

You have no basic understanding of what is going on in the Balkans. To paint Albanians as "Muslims" and Macedonians as "Christians" is not just simplistic, but incorrect. Religion is not strong across the Balkans. It's more about ethnicity.

The Albanians fought against the harder than anyone, and they were the last to fall. The Albanians, even the Muslim Albanians, fought against the and never gave up fighting for their independence.

You said in your wildly inaccurate article that it was hard to figure out the Macedonians using your template. The same could be said of Albania.

You also place too much emphasis on religion over ethnicity in the Balkans in general.

In the next few weeks, perhaps war will break out in Balkans. The Europeans will do nothing, as usual. Refugees will flood out by the millions. How much more can European welfare states endure? We are about to find out.

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