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shoshin
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John and Higgie et al....speaking of emt attacks and the like, are you suspicious that the gas explosions in Massachusetts were the result of a hack of that grid? If it were, I suspect that we would not be told.
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shoshin wrote:John and Higgie et al....speaking of emt attacks and the like, are you suspicious that the gas explosions in Massachusetts were the result of a hack of that grid? If it were, I suspect that we would not be told.
I wouldn't have much insight into this. The only thing I can say is the media made a big deal out of the gas pressure being 12 times normal. The gas pressure was reported to be 6 psi versus the normal 0.5 psi. 6 psi is not a lot of pressure. For comparison, the pressure in an automobile tire is about 32 psi and if you deflate it to 6 psi there isn't much. Atmospheric pressure is 15 psi. So in either case (6 psi or 0.5 psi), the gas pressure is some fraction over atmospheric (because they are measuring using atmospheric as the reference, not a vacuum as the reference). Bottom line, I don't think the gas pressure is what caused the explosion. It was something else.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Kind of Girl I married. Family is the Heart.
We have Sorites paradox for the rest who
made a choice to worship the State.

Also gas regulators are lets say hardwired.

If the SRV on the transit compressor failed to open to atmospheric
a bypass in probability was opened until line failure. Who knows.....

Most smart devices have a rtd temperature interlock shut downs and pressure switch hardwired shutoffs.
Given the scope of telemetry failures again as like our regional screw ups who report it and a few days later
someone else checks on it. Later another talking head tells we are concerned with quality and your safety.
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vacuum = 0.0 psia
atmospheric = 14.7 psia = 0.0 psig
normal gas line = 15.2 psia = 0.5 psig
boston gas line = 20.7 psia = 6.0 psig

Let's say someone hacked into the system and was able to figure out how to bypass a regulator that reduced pressure in a main gas line from 6 psig to 0.5 psig before it entered a residential area (and I have no clue as to whether a bypass is even possible or what the pressures in a main gas line would be). So it enters a residential neighborhood at 6 psig. That condition might be able to persist for some time. The absolute pressure is really only 20.7 psia (not a lot, water pressure entering a residence is generally required to be over 50 psia or 35 psig).

The problem is what if a gas line leaks. Now the leakage rate is in fact 12X normal because the gradient the gas is working against is the atmosphere. So while a gas line may exist for some time at 6 psi, if a line breaks and starts to leak, there is the potential for a much larger explosion.

All this comes from my head - could be wrong.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Higgenbotham wrote: > vacuum = 0.0 psia
> atmospheric = 14.7 psia = 0.0 psig
> normal gas line = 15.2 psia = 0.5 psig
> boston gas line = 20.7 psia = 6.0 psig

> Let's say someone hacked into the system and was able to figure
> out how to bypass a regulator that reduced pressure in a main gas
> line from 6 psig to 0.5 psig before it entered a residential area
> (and I have no clue as to whether a bypass is even possible or
> what the pressures in a main gas line would be). So it enters a
> residential neighborhood at 6 psig. That condition might be able
> to persist for some time. The absolute pressure is really only
> 20.7 psia (not a lot, water pressure entering a residence is
> generally required to be over 50 psia or 35 psig).

> The problem is what if a gas line leaks. Now the leakage rate is
> in fact 12X normal because the gradient the gas is working against
> is the atmosphere. So while a gas line may exist for some time at
> 6 psi, if a line breaks and starts to leak, there is the potential
> for a much larger explosion.

> All this comes from my head - could be wrong.

This makes sense to me. The only part I would question is the hacking
-- that information would be so "explosive" that it would have have
"leaked" by now if true. I would guess something much more prosaic --
a software bug.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default ... k=3gSAGidA To those who understand the mile marker as issued. tyler

https://web.stanford.edu/~chadj/Consump ... -11-25.pdf

The point was to loot by 500 percent the demographic targeted. We seen this as they annialated the model called the seventies.
They had over two decades to drop the veil on the targets then we witnessed. You lift your skirt for Napoleonic law as a Nation prostituting common law to meet your accuser in the Court of actual Law.
The treadmill will increase in rate of interest since the rentier class is liberal since the sheep was gutted for the skin
as the wolf seeks another liberal. The decadal market rate cycle increase since education is the cost of not reading it for yourself.
As it was promptly put for brevity to dilute the base to imposed limitations since as noted today the poison ivy reality in the Branches as the Office will not remove those who descended to abrogated terms to the actual stalking and adulteration of the incoming Office. As we have seen accurately they will not remove the contagion cloaking the reality with defending it but on practicing it as the fatal deceit looms as the actual price to be paid. Thucydides was correct as we noted clearly before. They needed more of them and less of us independent in thrift for inflated fiat and yes we watched the peso stabilization for the table setting for NAFTA as the agricultural mid size model was annihilated in thought and deed pinned on the doctrines we know well as weaponized food programs paeprs here we read and the Club of Rome cult responses in spillover to the aggrandized Gramsci issues of our current day salving the mindset with political life boat ethics of readings. The Office understands and ignores the headwinds of Departmental tyrants who never wanted or needed a Vote to drain the productive capital to the point as warned recently to the incipiant Dark Ages stalking the land unchecked in deed to our initial grievances as the point to cripple the people who actually understand the price of staying chained in the cave of deception deceit delay and deny.

Some may contend the fuse was already burning. Thus we defend sorites paradox since the moral ineptitude of voters
appears endemic. It fits GD to the point the herd is less educated than ever and will fall.

http://www.cmi-gold-silver.com/pdf/humanaction.pdf

Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.

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The fungible cost of capital will set up energy margin cluster zones to negate tariffs, so yes delay will be the order of the day. When the jihad in micronesia was issued mid eighties the children in electronic industries was spared a lingering death from the hex molecular chains and we know were what, and when this was. Standards we read did somewhat improve as nets caught the industrial distraught. Modern I was warned
only meant less is more as in packaging and lowered material costs which translated to substitute ingredients passing standards written by compromised supply chains passed as legislation. We laugh at cereal in smaller boxes and gmo feed stocks that destroy the intestinal lining of the targeted livestock as producers increase penalties which only irony can weigh to the warped minds of Leviathan.

"Zersetzung, as a concept, involves the annihilation of the inner-self."

It calls for,

"[The] targeted spreading of rumors about particular persons with the aid of anonymous [means]... making compromising situations for them by creating confusion over the facts... [and] the engendering of hysterical and depressive behaviors in the target person."

"Directive Perceptions," another program designed to "develop apathy (in the [targeted] subject)... to achieve a situation in which his conflicts, whether of a social, personal, career, health or political kind are irreversible... to give rise to fears in him... to develop/create disappointments... to restrict his talents or capabilities... to reduce his capacity to act and... to harness dissentions and contradictions around him..."

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09- ... urt-monday

These directives were used by the Ministry for State Security against state security. In other words, they were massively used on the population to maintain a quo. These programs were designed to secretly destroy a target's personal and professional life, ruin them financially, and prevent them from reaching their potential, with the intention to produce irreversible depressive and panic-stricken behaviors. What the Hidden Evil appears to be, is a combination of various Cointelpro operations used by oppressive regimes on their civilian population. It has been refined and deployed globally.

Isa66: They have chosen their own ways, and they delight in their abominations; so I also will choose harsh treatment for them and will bring on them what they dread. For when I called, no one answered, when I spoke, no one listened. They did evil in my sight and chose what displeases me.” Hear the word of the Lord, you who tremble at his word: “Your own people who hate you, and exclude you because of my name.......

Sunday night futures fun and games...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNnIGh9g6fA


http://eugenicsarchive.ca/discover/conn ... 674b000216#!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dregs+of+soci ... _i&ia=news

comment dregs of society

The guy with frontal brain damage comments are the same as Konrads so it is not random.
You are off the rack animals to the Foundation.

you are here https://ee.stanford.edu/~hellman/Breakt ... xelrod.pdf
AI bias for informational negation signal error to root payoff by design of intent.

Back on track is not signal error to claw back the offending sector of intent by exploit.

The hope that the U.S. side will take measures to correct its mistakes is not what is on the menu
since the signal error is the exploit of the marxist dead stick control.
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Reading the above, my thought was that Robert Bork's comments of 30 years ago have come to fruition. Of course, it's not out of the ordinary that I thought this is another canary in the coal mine of the descent into a new dark age. What's unusual, and this is typically not the case in similar situations, is that enough people in the news media think so too that something to that effect actually got published.

When reports surfaced this summer that the US birth rate fell to 1.77, the media gave every explanation they could think of besides the obvious one - that the decline of the birthrate to under 2 in the hegemon is a sign of collapse.
Democrats, Kavanaugh, and 'The End of Civilization'

Judge Robert Bork used to tell a prescient and darkly humorous story about watching Clarence Thomas’s Senate confirmation hearings — etched in pre-hashtag history as the “Thomas–Hill hearings,” in homage to Anita Hill’s role as the left’s heroic accuser.

At the time, Thomas was a judge of the same eminent D.C. Circuit federal appeals court on which Bork had served. As he viewed Thomas’s “high-tech lynching” in horror, Bork recalled, a friend of his, the iconic Irving Kristol, approached and asked him what was happening.

“The end of civilization,” the judge sadly quipped.

“Of course it is,” Kristol deadpanned. “But it’ll take a long time. Meanwhile, it’s still possible to live well.”

It was a poignant story coming from Bork. A scholar of great breadth, the late judge was a man from another time: a patriot who’d enlisted in the Marines at 17 during World War II and been called back to duty when the Korean War broke out, even as he embarked on a legendary life in the law. In 1987, four years before the Thomas–Hill hearings, the slide from civilization he so lamented — the slouch toward Gomorrah — had started when he himself was mugged by Senate Democrats. This libelous character assassination, derailing Bork’s nomination by President Reagan to the Supreme Court, had been led by Ted Kennedy.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/09/ ... ation.html
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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The extensive notes support the work of Robert Axelrod that posited AI bias to root payoff.
The flower portion is discarded as seasonal refuse.
The current ploys of signal error to profitability from the Foundation we discussed is only
the next step to Pavlov's observation of consequences they do not fathom.
The point is the actual true nature of it will overwhelm them and claiming to be a liberal
is a deflection to the actual usage of the concept.
What the talking points are is well understood as mutation to adaptive with the drivers
to change the system. You as myself understand the fuse was burning for some time.
This position of deception in the signal error of construct is for the obvious measures
of time they do not have since the consequences are clear.
Sismondi was clear and they also understood that from the Marxist camps.

thread: Dunoyer incorporated Sismondi's theory into the Sayardian conception of political economy in which men have to adapt
their behaviour to the nature of things, or suffer the consequences.

To the thinking today it was Sismondi's work picked apart in the so called French Café intellectual's purview age as the alleged agent's of change soundly ignored in the States until 1963.

Antonio Gramsci and George Lukacs carried the torch and created a strategy for destroying both Christian influence and the Western culture itself.
Instead of calling for a communist revolution, as they had in Russia, they decided they should seize political power last, after what they called "A Long March through the Institutions" of the West.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08- ... ed-america

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