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Higgenbotham
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Higgenbotham wrote:
aedens wrote:This moved me to consider, called the market as they demonstrated on close the way they feel is chosing a way they want to live.
Over the past few weeks, I had 4 key numbers posted here for 4 indexes.

SPX 1853
DJIA 16250
NDX 3683
COMP 4289

It's quite interesting to look at today's last hour selloff. You will find that every one of those numbers was penetrated last hour and then every index closed the week and month above those critical numbers. Anyone who has watched these markets for the past 4 years knows the Fed is in there with black budget fiat moving these futures markets over the key levels at the key times. The bounce back from this selloff today was not natural. No free market would move like that.
This is how the Fed can box themselves into a corner, like always happens when interventionists think they can outsmart the market. The manipulation schemes continue to work until one day the unexpected happens and prices are obviously too high to support the scheme any longer. Nobody thought Putin would invade the Ukraine. Further manipulation seemed sure to trigger additional herding onward and upward. Now I guess we will see just how extreme and surreal the Fed wants to make it. If they continue, somewhere down the line the ridiculous extreme could be reached where the stocks of companies that have had their production facilities bombed out in a war are being bid to new highs with counterfeit money by a Fed that is the only owner of the stock. We're probably about halfway there already.
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While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Higgenbotham wrote:We're probably about halfway there already.
http://www.financialsense.com/contribut ... -this-time

This is a good compilation of the numbers but the only thing I would question is he talks about investors doing this or that, as if we still have a free market. I would question that. The logical explanation is that the Fed is putting a pretty public facade on the situation, saying they can go ahead with tapering, and at the same time using black budget ops to secretly support the market off the books. This is the logical next level of deception after the failure of the public QE programs. I see no other possible explanation. Investors can't be that stupid, even these generations of investors. Now the next question is how far are they willing to ratchet it up to further deviations from reality; whether they want to move 5, 10, 12 or 100 or 1000 standard deviations from reality.
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While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
aedens
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Investors can't be that .......

They do not understand the arc of instability or even see the actual effects of it H.

As the old arc of instability suggests from reports we are in a compression market or to say different stroke of affairs.
The shift is in as it was noted carefully here back then.

As L noted "I'm cautious of grand schemes, too, but not so cautious that I'm unwilling to employ them as a tool of understanding"

Syria is a block just as Egypt was with Torch back when.

I would be careful here as two sets of groups in a study where asked to count advertisements in a magazine.
About halfway into the magazine inside it clearly stated stop counting. The profile was thus concrete to
the disposition as the glass half full or empty to who kept counting. Most here consider the answer is yes.
The predilect set kept counting since pattern reconditions is not a skill set they apply.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR9VVykSW1Y

http://snalaska.com/cot/current/charts/SP.png

Parthian shot is maybe the Jesuits will do what is just who remember the term.

Effectively indifferent as others hurt themselves is a choice. As it is said ‘Heaven is my throne,
and the earth is my footstool. What kind of house will you build for me?
Meanwhile, the witnesses laid their coats at the feet of a young man named Saul.
While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”
Then he fell on his knees and cried out, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.”
When he had said this, he fell asleep.
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aedens wrote:Investors can't be that .......

They do not understand the arc of instability or even see the actual effects of it H.
They may not understand the more subtle aspects but they understand what zero hedge has laid out in their end of day report.

Stocks Close At New Record High On Russian Invasion, GDP Decline And Pending Home Sales Miss
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-2 ... -sales-mis

It's very doubtful in my mind that Friday's market levitation was not an attempt or response by Washington to pretend that what is happening is not happening, by secretly counterfeitng money and buying the stock indexes using black budget ops, hoping that a higher stock market can somehow convince people that what is happening is not in reality happening. Because that's the only plan they've got. They've got no military plan, no economic plan, no real response.

All they have is empty words and counterfeit money. They showed Putin what they've got and that's all they've got.

So look for China to get active and to start taking over more countries too...I read on zero hedge this weekend that China has cemented a quiet takeover of Zimbabwe without firing a shot, while Europe and the US focus on the Ukraine Crisis Part 10.

Ultimately, I expect China to take a shot at the rest of Asia, at least. I heard they just rescinded their one child policy. It makes sense. They can use the 60 million surplus males created by the one child policy to wage war, then expand into the territory they take over with the increased population created by rescinding the one child policy. Further, they can take the population of the territories they take over and ship them off to the cities they built in Mongolia to be used as slave labor while freeing their own slaves, sending the excess Chinese population to the territory they take over.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Higgenbotham wrote: Ultimately, I expect China to take a shot at the rest of Asia, at least. I heard they just rescinded their one child policy. It makes sense. They can use the 60 million surplus males created by the one child policy to wage war, then expand into the territory they take over with the increased population created by rescinding the one child policy. Further, they can take the population of the territories they take over and ship them off to the cities they built in Mongolia to be used as slave labor while freeing their own slaves, sending the excess Chinese population to the territory they take over.
Of course there is a competitive plan for growth in the U.S.

Open borders and open enrollment for social welfare programs. It works slightly differently in the U.S., but the underlying laws of economics are the same.

More people and fewer ( or the same number of ) jobs in the same geographic area results in lower wages.

Citizens work to support both themselves and the new arrivals over the open borders through social welfare programs. New arrivals keep both the fruits of their labor, and the social welfare support from the citizens of the country they moved to, because they are adept at living with multiple identity documents for multiple identities ( one for work, one for collecting benefits because they do not work, etc. ).

No one should say that only the Chinese leaders have a plan, U.S. leaders in industry and government are implementing their plan as well.
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Of course there is a competitive plan for growth in the U.S.

Many years ago, Dr. Revilo P. Oliver, then Professor of the Classics at the University of Illinois, provided a penetrating observation of a basic aspect of International Communism in an address to the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. In his address, “The Secret of Hideous Communism’s Strength,” he pointed out a fact of Communism that is often overlooked. He said, “The simplest and most fundamental fact about the International Communist Conspiracy is one of the hardest to grasp. Communists are not human, in the selective and optimistic sense in which we habitually use that word. “They neither think nor feel as we do. They do not see the world that we see…inwardly they are as alien from us as the ghouls of Arabian legend or the Martian monsters imagined by our most extravagant writers of ‘science fiction.’ “Communists are not human because they have been subjected to a prolonged and intensive discipline devised to purge them of all the instincts and capacities that we like to regard as characteristic of man – self-respect, independent judgment, conscience, pity, and every form of decency and morality. And the discipline is above all designed to make certain that anyone in whom the human qualities are not totally extinct is eliminated from the Conspiracy.”
At the time he spoke, Dr. Oliver talked about the “appalling success throughout the world” that the Communists were having, and said then, more than fifty years ago, that in their active preparations to take over the entire nation that “on the most optimistic estimate,” they were “more than half of the way to that goal.”

The Beveridge Report cited five social evils: squalor, ignorance, want, idleness and disease.

Of those five it is not hard to see who profits from it. That is the root issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gT_kxRJQOE
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An interesting post by Cognitive Dissonance -- " The Answer is 42" http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/20 ... /answer-42

One of the main themes is, why do people support liars? --- because people don't want to hear the truth.

"Who reading this right now is actually willing to run this country, let alone try to ‘fix’ it, considering the present state of psychosis nearly everyone, not just ‘our’ leaders, are suffering from? Only a madman, a sociopath or someone suffering from NPD (narcissistic personality disorder in case you’re wondering) would beg to be put into the type of position where not only must they go along to get along, but they need to enable the other madmen and sociopaths or they might just find themselves taking a long walk off a short pier."
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-ha ... ne/5371554 True or false time.

Thanks for forwarding the CD article G. Being retired as he is has advantages as the layers are removed.
Dialectic is an interpersonal activity which the participants enter a higher state of consciousness and the Guides assist.
They gain union with their Higher Self and create new understanding by the interaction and coalescence of ideas from all active participants to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NteVmdoo1yI
When faith and religion meet the only question is why they point to it.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer said, “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil.” Think what you will.

So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack or be lost... All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

H.L. Mencken, Baltimore Sun, 1920

“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world
and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” Eph 6:12

The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. – Plato

Excuses as Amos was also clear they will seek and not find, and we all have them. As before noted, it never ceases to amaze me how fast even in America they run as
mindless debt slave chattel they are now back into Plato's cave.

Cog is correct on the inimical justifications target practice. http://thesaurus.com/browse/inimical
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