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29-Sep-17 World View -- Burma's (Myanmar's) leaders may be inspired by Pol Pot's Cambodian 'Killing Fields' genocide


Burma's ethnic cleansing of Rohingya Muslims passes a major milestone

** 29-Sep-17 World View -- Burma's (Myanmar's) leaders may be inspired by Pol Pot's Cambodian 'Killing Fields' genocide
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e170929



Contents:
Burma's ethnic cleansing of Rohingya Muslims passes a major milestone
Burma has possible parallels to Pol Pot's Cambodian Killing Fields


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Burma, Myanmar, Rohingyas, Rakhine State,
Bangladesh, Cambodia, Pol Pot, Killing Fields, Khmer Rouge,
António Guterres, BBC, Jonathan Head, Aung San Suu Kyi,
Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army, ARSA, Buddhism, Islam,
China, Mao Zedong, Great Leap Forward

So you say that the "Holocaust killed about 5 million people, which was about 3% of Germany's population at the time."

At what time was Germany's population 166 million?

What point are you trying to make with the false data?

Germany's population around 1940 was more like 70 million.

You also say:

"From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, Islam is NOT a religion of peace."

Really? So Generational Dynamics is needed to come to this conclusion. That's a ridiculous and presumptuous way of stating the obvious.

It is like saying: "From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, the White House is white."

panda wrote:So you say that the "Holocaust killed about 5 million people, which was about 3% of Germany's population at the time."

At what time was Germany's population 166 million?

What point are you trying to make with the false data?

Germany's population around 1940 was more like 70 million.

You also say:

"From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, Islam is NOT a religion of peace."

Really? So Generational Dynamics is needed to come to this conclusion. That's a ridiculous and presumptuous way of stating the obvious.

It is like saying: "From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, the White House is white."

First, I think he means the population of "Greater Germany" ie the part of Europe Germany controlled at its height in the war.
Second, he was pointing out that from the point of view of GD there is NO religion of peace, not Islam or Buddhism or any other.

The point is that there's no such thing as a "religion of peace."

You beat me to it, Tom. Thanks.

panda wrote:So you say that the "Holocaust killed about 5 million people, which was about 3% of Germany's population at the time."

At what time was Germany's population 166 million?

What point are you trying to make with the false data?

Germany's population around 1940 was more like 70 million.

You also say:

"From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, Islam is NOT a religion of peace."

Really? So Generational Dynamics is needed to come to this conclusion. That's a ridiculous and presumptuous way of stating the obvious.

It is like saying: "From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, the White House is white."

So true! By the way Pol Pot was a communist and his government was communist NOT Buddhist. The thugs that killed 20% of Cambodia's population were all communist and they killed in the named of communism NOT Buddhism.

The Truth wrote:

panda wrote:So you say that the "Holocaust killed about 5 million people, which was about 3% of Germany's population at the time."

At what time was Germany's population 166 million?

What point are you trying to make with the false data?

Germany's population around 1940 was more like 70 million.

You also say:

"From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, Islam is NOT a religion of peace."

Really? So Generational Dynamics is needed to come to this conclusion. That's a ridiculous and presumptuous way of stating the obvious.

It is like saying: "From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, the White House is white."

So true! By the way Pol Pot was a communist and his government was communist NOT Buddhist. The thugs that killed 20% of Cambodia's population were all communist and they killed in the named of communism NOT Buddhism.

It's not terribly difficult for us to find something to kill each other over. Any reason will do.

the huge Christian genocides in Russia and Germany in the two world wars

How do you figure that the Russian Communists were in any sense Christian? They were officially atheist and even tried to stamp out the Russian Orthodox Church during the revolution. Only late in WWII did the communists decide to tolerate the Orthodox Church at all.

The importance of Buddhism as the Khmer Rouge religion is not
that there's something special about Buddhism that leads to the
Cambodian Killing Fields. In fact the Khmer Rouge were apparently
learning from Communist Mao's Great Leap Forward genocide, in the same
way that children might learn carpentry from their parents.

What makes Cambodia's Buddhism important today is that there's a
religious identity group connection between the people of Burma and
the people of Cambodia, and there may even be familial connections.
Today's Burmese Buddhist leaders may be learning from the Khmer
Rouge's Killing Fields genocide from their Cambodian cousins, which
would make Mao's communists the grandparents, the Khmer Rouge the
first generation children, and the Burmese the grandchildren, creating
a kind of family tree of horror.

The way that a war could arise is if some nation takes some military
action to right the situation. There will soon be close to a million
Burmese Rohingyas in Bangladesh, and I could easily imagine Bangladesh
doing something to force these refugees to return to Burma, or at
least to stop the flow.

Another possible way is another Muslim nation taking some action.

Here's an article that describes how Muslims in Bangladesh, Indonesia,
Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey, Malaysia and Chechnya are holding
large anti-Burma protests, sometimes demanding that the government
cut diplomatic relations. Imagine, for example, if a jihadist
militia from one of these countries goes to Burma, and they're captured
by the Burmese, and their government demands that they be returned,
and Burma refuses.

http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg ... story.html

So it's not that the Burma situation could lead overnight to a crisis
war. It's that there may be a typical "regeneracy" scenario, where
one country crosses a red line, and another country (Burma) crosses a
red line in response, creating a ping-pong escalation process that
leads to a war.

In fact, no religion would exist for long as a "religion of peace," since its population would soon be exterminated by people of other religions who do NOT follow "religion of peace" policies.

No "religion of peace" would survive more than a few decades, if it weren't willing to become a "religion of war."

This is contrary to historical fact. You should look at the Mennonites or Amish for example. These and some other sects descended from the Anabaptists are have existed for over four hundred years. They are strict pacifists and they live it. There are many examples of these strictly pacifist religious minorities being willing to die, rather than fight back.

Their survival is owed to two reasons. First they have often been protected by the resident majority who do not share their beliefs. These are not others of their own but of a different religious sect, and often of a different race and language too. Second, when they fall under harsh persecution, they have shown a historic willingness to leave the land in which they dwell, rather than stand their ground. This tendency to flee, rather than fight is typical of pacifist religions.

Religions of peace are rare and no major world religion can be classified as pacifist, in all its sects. But they do exist and, if 48 is more that a few, they can survive for more that a few decades.