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John wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:00 pm ** 14-Mar-2022 World View: Independent journalists

thomasglee wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:49 pm > I don't get it from MSNBC, CNN, AJ, or FOX. I watched various
> independent journalist on Rumble, Bit-Chute, and even YouTube
> (until YT censors them). Yes, most of the MSM stories are
> staged. Look into project Mockingbird.

> When this was all starting you said something along the lines of,
> "Russia will do like Germany did and claim they're invading to
> protect their citizens". Do you remember when the USA invaded
> Panama on the same pretense? You always believe the USA is right
> and everybody else is wrong. The US has proven time and time again
> they're just as corrupt if not more so than the other nations -
> including Russia. Psalm 34:4 - “I sought the Lord, and he
> answered me and delivered me from all my fears.”

THIS "I watched various independent journalist on Rumble, Bit-Chute,
and even YouTube" is your problem. Your only sources of information
are the same hard-core ideological sources that are owned by a handful
of people.

I watch hard news, and you watch political ideologues. And by the
way, the sources I listed are all owned by different people.

You're completely full of crap. I can't remember saying anything like
your quotes about Germany or Panama. You're confusing me with someone
else.

What are the names of some of the "independent journalists" you watch?

thomasglee wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:05 pm > You know what John, you can watch and believe what you want, just
> like I can watch and believe what I want. I really don't care.
> Believe your sources all you want. My point is that I watch
> various sources. I read articles on Drudge, I read articles on
> ZeroHedge, I watch various independent sources and I parse what
> seems real, and what seems fake. You want to buy into the MSM
> line that's fine. That's your choice. Again, I really don't care
> what you think. Think I'm an idiot? That's fine. Think I'm a
> stooge, that's fine. Again, I honestly don't care too much.
> Sure, like most people, I want to be "liked", but my life doesn't
> depend on it. If you don't want to "be my friend" it's not going
> to break my heart.

John wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:20 pm ** 14-Mar-2022 World View: Drudge and Zerohedge

thomasglee wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:05 pm > You know what John, you can watch and believe what you want, just
> like I can watch and believe what I want. I really don't care.
> Believe your sources all you want. My point is that I watch
> various sources. I read articles on Drudge, I read articles on
> ZeroHedge, I watch various independent sources and I parse what
> seems real, and what seems fake. You want to buy into the MSM
> line that's fine. That's your choice. Again, I really don't care
> what you think. Think I'm an idiot? That's fine. Think I'm a
> stooge, that's fine. Again, I honestly don't care too much.
> Sure, like most people, I want to be "liked", but my life doesn't
> depend on it. If you don't want to "be my friend" it's not going
> to break my heart.

I check out the two "independent sources" that you referenced, and I
saw no articles that support your views. In other words, you're lying
about them.

**** The Drudge Report is an aggregator. Here's an article it linksto:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-new ... s-26462804

Inside Kremlin chaos amid 'cracks in Putin regime' and faltering Ukraine invasion

Russia has so far lost a number of Russian generals, with General Andrei Kolesnikov, of the 29th Combined Arms Army, killed in fighting on Friday - a top Putin's ally has admitted the war is progressing slower than expected

The deaths of Russian generals comes after reports a Kremlin spy chief and his deputy haven been placed under house arrest by Putin
The deaths of Russian generals comes after reports a Kremlin spy chief and his deputy haven been placed under house arrest by Putin (Image: Getty Images)

By Abigail O'Leary News Reporter

14:21, 14 Mar 2022

The Kremlin is said to have been thrown into chaos following a number
of blows to Vladimir Putin's regime, as the planned invasion of
Ukraine slows.

Putin is reported to be furious at the Russian failures so far but the
Kremlin has denied asking China for weapons to help.

The invading forces have scarcely moved in recent days and the Russian
attack is now mostly focused on intense shelling and airstrikes.

Efforts to assassinate Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelensky have
failed with a 'hit squad' sent into Kyiv reported to have been
thwarted by double agents.

Russia has so far lost a number of Russian generals, with General
Andrei Kolesnikov, of the 29th Combined Arms Army, killed in fighting
on Friday.


**** Here's an excerpt from the lead article on Zerohedge right now:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... r-march-14

Zelensky is expected to reiterate his calls for a Western-imposed
no-fly zone, and make an appeal for more weapons and aircraft. A
letter sent to House and Senate members by Speaker Nancy Pelosi and
Majority Leader Chuck Schumer had this to say:

"The Congress, our country and the world are in awe of the people
of Ukraine, who have shown extraordinary courage, resilience and
determination in the face of Russia’s unprovoked, vicious, and
illegal war."

thomasglee wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:25 pm

John wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:20 pm ** 14-Mar-2022 World View: Drudge and Zerohedge

thomasglee wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:05 pm > You know what John, you can watch and believe what you want, just
> like I can watch and believe what I want. I really don't care.
> Believe your sources all you want. My point is that I watch
> various sources. I read articles on Drudge, I read articles on
> ZeroHedge, I watch various independent sources and I parse what
> seems real, and what seems fake. You want to buy into the MSM
> line that's fine. That's your choice. Again, I really don't care
> what you think. Think I'm an idiot? That's fine. Think I'm a
> stooge, that's fine. Again, I honestly don't care too much.
> Sure, like most people, I want to be "liked", but my life doesn't
> depend on it. If you don't want to "be my friend" it's not going
> to break my heart.

I check out the two "independent sources" that you referenced, and I
saw no articles that support your views. In other words, you're lying
about them.

**** The Drudge Report is an aggregator. Here's an article it linksto:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-new ... s-26462804

Inside Kremlin chaos amid 'cracks in Putin regime' and faltering Ukraine invasion

Russia has so far lost a number of Russian generals, with General Andrei Kolesnikov, of the 29th Combined Arms Army, killed in fighting on Friday - a top Putin's ally has admitted the war is progressing slower than expected

The deaths of Russian generals comes after reports a Kremlin spy chief and his deputy haven been placed under house arrest by Putin
The deaths of Russian generals comes after reports a Kremlin spy chief and his deputy haven been placed under house arrest by Putin (Image: Getty Images)

By Abigail O'Leary News Reporter

14:21, 14 Mar 2022

The Kremlin is said to have been thrown into chaos following a number
of blows to Vladimir Putin's regime, as the planned invasion of
Ukraine slows.

Putin is reported to be furious at the Russian failures so far but the
Kremlin has denied asking China for weapons to help.

The invading forces have scarcely moved in recent days and the Russian
attack is now mostly focused on intense shelling and airstrikes.

Efforts to assassinate Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelensky have
failed with a 'hit squad' sent into Kyiv reported to have been
thwarted by double agents.

Russia has so far lost a number of Russian generals, with General
Andrei Kolesnikov, of the 29th Combined Arms Army, killed in fighting
on Friday.


**** Here's an excerpt from the lead article on Zerohedge right now:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... r-march-14

Zelensky is expected to reiterate his calls for a Western-imposed
no-fly zone, and make an appeal for more weapons and aircraft. A
letter sent to House and Senate members by Speaker Nancy Pelosi and
Majority Leader Chuck Schumer had this to say:

"The Congress, our country and the world are in awe of the people
of Ukraine, who have shown extraordinary courage, resilience and
determination in the face of Russia’s unprovoked, vicious, and
illegal war."

Read what I said. I read articles from drudge and other sources and parse them. The article I posted earlier was from ZH. You poo pop’d it but found an article that supports your views and post it. My point is you can’t just follow what the MSM is telling you. To call me a liar is BS and childish.

thomasglee wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:25 pm > Read what I said. I read articles from drudge and other sources
> and parse them. The article I posted earlier was from ZH. You poo
> pop’d it but found an article that supports your views and post
> it. My point is you can’t just follow what the MSM is telling
> you. To call me a liar is BS and childish.

thomasglee wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:55 pm Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky thanked Facebook for its role in helping him win the propaganda war after the platform announced it would permit calls for violence against Russians

In other words, Facebook is directly aiding Ukraine by allowing pro-Ukraine propaganda to spread while banning any pro-Russia propaganda.

This despite the fact that there have been numerous huge fabricated stories in just a few weeks alone, including the Snake Island hoax and the supposed attack on a Holocaust memorial in Kiev that never happened.

“Facebook has helped Zelensky himself spread endless disinformation to try and con NATO into World War III,” comments Chris Menahan. “Most recently, they helped Zelensky spread the lie that Russians attacked the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant with tanks and it was leaking radiation and could lead to a nuclear holocaust wiping out all of Europe (if NATO doesn’t immediately get involved in the war and start WW3).”

“They also helped Zelensky spread the lie that Russians attacked the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and were trying to trigger a meltdown.”

Facebook’s decision to allow its platform to be used to advocate for violence against Russians was also made despite actual real world violence being directed towards Russians.

A Russian cultural center in Paris was firebombed last weekend, while a man in Dublin also drove a truck into the gates of the Russian embassy.

thomasglee wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:55 pm > https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/ze ... aganda-war

> Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky thanked Facebook for
> its role in helping him win the propaganda war after the
> platform announced it would permit calls for violence against
> Russians[/url]

> In other words, Facebook is directly aiding Ukraine by allowing
> pro-Ukraine propaganda to spread while banning any pro-Russia
> propaganda.

thomasglee wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:30 pm THIS “ I have the tv on all day, watching only news shows.” is your problem. Your only sources of information are the same sources that are owned by a handful of people.

thomasglee wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:49 pm

John wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:44 pm ** 14-Mar-2022 World View: News shows

thomasglee wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:40 pm > John, I’ve always liked you, but each day you’re proving how much
> you’re losing it. Sitting around watching sanctioned news shows
> repeating the same talking points is stupid.

I've seen hundreds of live interviews and videos on media sources from
around the world. They're all staged? You and Cool are fanatical
idiots.

Out of curiosity, where do you get your news of the Ukraine war?

I don't get it from MSNBC, CNN, AJ, or FOX. I watched various independent journalist on Rumble, Bit-Chute, and even YouTube (until YT censors them). Yes, most of the MSM stories are staged. Look into project Mockingbird.

When this was all starting you said something along the lines of, "Russia will do like Germany did and claim they're invading to protect their citizens". Do you remember when the USA invaded Panama on the same pretense? You always believe the USA is right and everybody else is wrong. The US has proven time and time again they're just as corrupt if not more so than the other nations - including Russia.

Yes, most of the MSM stories are staged.

Look into project Mockingbird.

The US has proven time and time again they're just as corrupt if not more so than the other nations - including Russia.

thomasglee wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:52 pm

thomasglee wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:55 pm Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky thanked Facebook for its role in helping him win the propaganda war after the platform announced it would permit calls for violence against Russians

In other words, Facebook is directly aiding Ukraine by allowing pro-Ukraine propaganda to spread while banning any pro-Russia propaganda.

This despite the fact that there have been numerous huge fabricated stories in just a few weeks alone, including the Snake Island hoax and the supposed attack on a Holocaust memorial in Kiev that never happened.

“Facebook has helped Zelensky himself spread endless disinformation to try and con NATO into World War III,” comments Chris Menahan. “Most recently, they helped Zelensky spread the lie that Russians attacked the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant with tanks and it was leaking radiation and could lead to a nuclear holocaust wiping out all of Europe (if NATO doesn’t immediately get involved in the war and start WW3).”

“They also helped Zelensky spread the lie that Russians attacked the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and were trying to trigger a meltdown.”

Facebook’s decision to allow its platform to be used to advocate for violence against Russians was also made despite actual real world violence being directed towards Russians.

A Russian cultural center in Paris was firebombed last weekend, while a man in Dublin also drove a truck into the gates of the Russian embassy.

Hers the article. Many of the independent sources post on ZH and Axios, etc.