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[at99sy]

Will they put their money where their mouth is by buying gold and selling US bonds?

China is buying gold. But will they sell their US bonds? They should. I expect they will figure this out at some point. Just not sure they will figure it out before war starts. Of course by then it is too late.

I think China is already well in the know about the situation. They are buying the rights to resources around the world and have been for over a decade. The pace seems to be increasing and they are buying major industry components as well. Smithfields Foods http://www.nbcnews.com/business/chinese ... 4B11243408 and Canadian Oil http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o ... le6403042/ just two recent major acquisitions.

Question: Can a country that holds our T-bonds and other forms of debt securities physically trade them to another for resources and/or goods? Or must they redeem them first and then use the $$ to make the transactions?

If China is trading our debt for resources they could be unwinding or at least hedging their bets on the sly. They are also setting up "colonies" all over Africa and have made significant moves into South America. One of my students is from Brazil and she tells me that Chinese people are everywhere now.

thoughts?
cheers
sy

[gerald]

Will they put their money where their mouth is by buying gold and selling US bonds?

China is buying gold. But will they sell their US bonds? They should. I expect they will figure this out at some point. Just not sure they will figure it out before war starts. Of course by then it is too late.

I think China is already well in the know about the situation. They are buying the rights to resources around the world and have been for over a decade. The pace seems to be increasing and they are buying major industry components as well. Smithfields Foods http://www.nbcnews.com/business/chinese ... 4B11243408 and Canadian Oil http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o ... le6403042/ just two recent major acquisitions.

Question: Can a country that holds our T-bonds and other forms of debt securities physically trade them to another for resources and/or goods? Or must they redeem them first and then use the $$ to make the transactions?

If China is trading our debt for resources they could be unwinding or at least hedging their bets on the sly. They are also setting up "colonies" all over Africa and have made significant moves into South America. One of my students is from Brazil and she tells me that Chinese people are everywhere now.

thoughts?
cheers
sy

It appears that China may have learned from it's past.

"When China Ruled the Seas"
"The Treasure Fleet of the Dragon Throne, 1405-1433" http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/he/subjec ... 0195112078

Much of the world benefited from their exploration and trade of that time ( such as the world wide distribution of some plants and animals for food - all continents except Antarctica )--- If the Mandarins of then were not the hindrance that they were, It is quite possible that today we would have a united world speaking Mandarin.

cheers

[aedens]

http://www.constitution.org/lincoln/lyceum.htm

Asked a single question on how we got into this with four different people and four incorrect responses.
Add another incompetant agency to control opinion and you have five incorrect responses.

When a country that has factories that put nets outside their windows to keep slave wage workers from
committing suicide calls your countries government shutdown a "sign of efficiency"...stick a fork in it: Your fucked.

Another see it as it is, go back to sleep and click that 0bam pool.

[gerald]

http://www.constitution.org/lincoln/lyceum.htm

Asked a single question on how we got into this with four different people and four incorrect responses.
Add another incompetant agency to control opinion and you have five incorrect responses.

When a country that has factories that put nets outside their windows to keep slave wage workers from
committing suicide calls your countries government shutdown a "sign of efficiency"...stick a fork in it: Your fucked.

Another see it as it is, go back to sleep and click that 0bam pool.

Even in the 1400's most of the people in China might have been considered serfs or quasi slaves, after all what is a standing army for? laws need to be enforced and the Mandarins had power.
"When elephants fight the grass gets trampled."

[aedens]

"Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe." Abraham Linclon

Basically nothing is true unless you misdirect another so information indeed is a premium to control appearances
to covet, and they will, since normalcy bias is a simple design.

The wicked walk in a circle as warned from St. Augustine. Time to go black again as it said in the Book since they cannot fathom much.
One can say the opposite to another in a simple moment of device so we go on frail, but seventy times seven must be. Go back to sleep
and depart, for sun light is of no avail.

I agree about the grass being flat G, but as we warned the canines are the actual target first.
It cannot be repaired since they choke on a pound.

perfect example: This political objective—masking the true underlying cost of Obamacare’s insurance plans—far outweighed the operational objective of making the federal website work properly. Think about it the other way around. If the “Affordable Care Act” truly did make health insurance more affordable, there would be no need to hide these prices from the public.

Both sides of the isle are in the thicket on this deception we are drowning in on so many levels truly
it is beyond any American experience.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapotheca ... r=yahootix
Vampire economy straight up.

For those with a bloomberg terminal, type up the command: {GLD Equity PHDC1 } Goldman Sachs bought $5b USD of GLD last quarter,
while they were pitching their “sell gold” call to the world.
http://www.safehaven.com/article/31454/ ... rance-sale
Go back to sleep. http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/govt- ... z2hmPsyGZO

The Things You Own End Up Owning You. Or as the philosopher might put it, they are engaged in epistemic warfare.

[gerald]

Sometimes one needs to pay a little more attention to things outside your ivory tower
An example of a goof up -- Japan’s ‘Fukuppy’ firm rethinks mascot after Fukushima misunderstanding http://rt.com/news/fukuppy-fukushima-mascot-pulled-221/
You can't make this stuff up

[gerald]

-- May you live in interesting times ---

If true, It seems as though times could get more interesting -----

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3079167/posts -------- EBT To Shut Down Nationwide Starting November -- USDA

Foodstamp Program Shutdown Imminent? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-1 ... n-imminent

In other words, as Fox13News summarizes, "States across the country are being told to stop the supplemental nutrition assistance program for the month of November, pending further notice."

[Higgenbotham]

June 19, 2013
Why Men Are “Going Galt”: A Review of Men On Strike

http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/ ... on-strike/

It's interesting this subject has become prominent enough to be put up for serious discussion. I find the particulars more symptomatic of the bigger picture. When a civilization is in its ascent phase, it naturally favors men and conversely when it is in the decline phase it naturally favors women. This is for many reasons. One obvious one is that when a civilization is in the ascent phase, there is a lot of construction of infrastructure going on and men are more inclined toward that activity. Once the civilization goes into decline, not only is there less construction but the things that have already been constructed don't get maintained properly. All of the details in this link just serve to verify that is what is happening, that for the first time in its history the US has entered solidly and intractably into the decline phase, along with Europe and parts of Asia.

For a specific discussion of how this works in the bigger picture, when a civilization goes into decline, two things happen with regard to the birth rate. One is that the birth rate falls and the other is that the birth rate of the racial group that built the civilization falls even faster. So we have in the US the birth rate of the white population falling very fast, faster than in the US as a whole. The next part of this is that most men marry women who are younger. Therefore, if the birth rate (numbers, more accurately) is falling, men have a smaller and smaller pool of women to pick from and, therefore, the men no longer drive the marriage bargain. The link above gives many examples of this but doesn't make the connection that this is happening because the civilization is in decline. And many of the things the link points out don't seem to be a problem for the Hispanic or Muslim (or even Mormon) population in the US because their numbers are rising very fast. At least, I haven't noticed that Hispanic, etc., men are having these kinds of problems to the extent that men in the predominant population are. And all I ever hear Mormon women talk about is how great their men are. Really.

This is the type of thing that leads to a vicious cycle of decline. Once the cycle is deeply rooted and intractable to the point that the civilization is dying and soon to enter a Dark Age, a few people realize there is a problem, but by then it is too late. Everything has been set up where the only logical choice for men of any age to make is to "Go Galt" if they can.

What the article also doesn't pick up on is that men in their prime productive and earning years are starting to "Go Galt" in a different and more applicable way in terms of what Atlas Shrugged was really all about. This will be the much more immediately damaging effect. I'm getting the impression that a tipping point has been reached where it is becoming fashionable for productive men to "Go Galt". Once this happens we will probably move past the "slowly at first" into the "all at once" stage of collapse.

[aedens]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-1 ... cmpid=yhoo
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-no ... .html?vp=1

Like you noted Higg in the article you posted these people will choke on a pound of a simple truth of what actually is going on
on levels they cannot even pretend to fathom even with scraps. Trying to sort it out as we go is the best excuse they have to date on a few items.
I noted some areas we are nine years on a few things and two on some others but yes there are numerous so called realities. Some will fight to the end and Solomon has sound advise on that topic just as the saying food and children of the age of the passing gentile narrative. mt 15:27
Like I noted the first attack was from the left hand from a bad circle and they could not even begin to see it locally - 2 Thessalonians 2:11 - so we will just have to wait and see as before on how it was told to us on what will be.

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[Higgenbotham]

They don't have a clue, a. The infrastructure will crumble and there will lbe cascading outages and shortages before they even begin to understand how much trouble they're in.

Meanwhile, the S&P futures are vibrating like a bridge that is getting ready to collapse.