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guest wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:21 pm Meanwhile, back in Washington, Kamala Harris is frightening the Russians to death!
https://youtu.be/WulzQsoHE5I
"They're very naughty boys and we will be really severe with them!" - Oh dear.

Another LOL.

** 23-Jan-2022 World View: Latinos and Democrats

thinker wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:59 am > Also John posted something about the mass latin migration
> backfiring on the democrats and he posted a link to an interesting
> article on the subject which I read. Basically I agree with
> that. I am an immigrant from Cuba and Cuban immigrants are known
> to be very right wing but I have been noticing a shift to the
> right by other groups of latins like Puerto Ricans, Venezuelan ,
> and Colombian Immigrants among others. For example Kyle
> Rittenhouse is very popular amongst most of the latins I come in
> contact with, the media narrative that latins support BLM and all
> this other BS is simply not true. Latins are also not all the same
> race for example there are white latins , black latins and latins
> that have arab and asian ancestry .From my experience they don't
> hate white people and consider all the blame and hang ringing
> about slavery to be again BS. Latins don't care about the past
> slavery in their own countries of origin so guess what are the
> chances they are going to care about past slavery in the US, you
> may have guessed it not very likely. The current administration
> and the rest of the democrat party is making this shift even worse
> and I believe more permanent. Any way as usual I am interested in
> what the other forum members think about the subjects I touched
> on.

The apparent purpose of the Democrats' illegal open border policy is
to bring in millions of illegal immigrants who will vote for
Democrats, assuming the Democrats can get their "voting rights" bill
approved.

However, I've always been a little skeptical of that plan because some
years ago I was reading about polls that indicate the second and third
generation Latinos in California were opposed to open borders because
illegal immigrants would take the jobs and resources held by the
existing Latino population.

Your post appears to confirm that skepticism. However, it's not clear
to me whether your comments about Latinos (latins, Hispanics) leaving
the Democrat party applies also to the newly arrived immigrants.



https://www.pewresearch.org/race-ethnic ... re-access/

John wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:40 am However, I've always been a little skeptical of that plan because some
years ago I was reading about polls that indicate the second and third
generation Latinos in California were opposed to open borders because
illegal immigrants would take the jobs and resources held by the
existing Latino population.

Your post appears to confirm that skepticism. However, it's not clear
to me whether your comments about Latinos (latins, Hispanics) leaving
the Democrat party applies also to the newly arrived immigrants.

This is accurate. The real issue is the new immigrants, yes, from Mexico/central/south america, who are marxists sympathizers and simpletons in this regard, returning again and again to Marxism in their governments even after great strides are made by conservative traditionalists in society and economy (Chile as greatest example). I suspect that the people from these countries are so poor they don't care about principle and just want the handout, as that what most humans, especially from these type of countries, get seduced by. By the time the Dems have to deal with true "americans" a few generations later wanting to shut down the portal to keep their own accumulated treasure and integrity of citizenship, they figure they'll come up with a different plan, or continue the enslavement of people by government control, as is happening. That is if elections are even real at this point, which I think they are partially, but mostly they are abused and cheated in the places that matter.

thinker wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:40 am For anyone that is thinking that Russia will save western civilization, just stop with that BS. Putin is using the migrants as a weapon against the rest of Europe , if any thing it's the Polish that have fought back effectively against the mass migration weapon. Before anyone says that I am a Russia hater I work around a lot of Russians and for the most part have found them to be likable, I just see things as they are.
There is an old saying " an army marches on It's stomach" I think a big part of Russian interest in Ukraine has to do with food. They are getting ready for war and want to get Ukraine's grain production on their side. Russia and Chyna will make their moves and no one including the US will do much to stop them. I think the west and everyone else will wait until they have no choice but to act.
I think Chinas biggest problem is that it can't feed itself during peace much less during war. This is a huge advantage for us, the midwest and western parts of the US and Canada are basically one massive farm and ranch. Just with the production of this area we can feed ourselves and help our allies like Europe, by the way we also have more productive farmland in the eastern US and Canada if we need it.

I agree with you. No one is saying that Russia will "save" anyone. I think most of us are saying that the real demons of the world lie in the US gov't and EU demonic bureaucracies, and this is supported by the fact that they hate a white, male Christian leader with a country that has issues, but is at least on its face totally opposite from the decaying West at this point. That is all.

Cool Breeze wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:59 am

John wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:40 am However, I've always been a little skeptical of that plan because some
years ago I was reading about polls that indicate the second and third
generation Latinos in California were opposed to open borders because
illegal immigrants would take the jobs and resources held by the
existing Latino population.

Your post appears to confirm that skepticism. However, it's not clear
to me whether your comments about Latinos (latins, Hispanics) leaving
the Democrat party applies also to the newly arrived immigrants.

This is accurate. The real issue is the new immigrants, yes, from Mexico/central/south america, who are marxists sympathizers and simpletons in this regard, returning again and again to Marxism in their governments even after great strides are made by conservative traditionalists in society and economy (Chile as greatest example). I suspect that the people from these countries are so poor they don't care about principle and just want the handout, as that what most humans, especially from these type of countries, get seduced by. By the time the Dems have to deal with true "americans" a few generations later wanting to shut down the portal to keep their own accumulated treasure and integrity of citizenship, they figure they'll come up with a different plan, or continue the enslavement of people by government control, as is happening. That is if elections are even real at this point, which I think they are partially, but mostly they are abused and cheated in the places that matter.

If I may interject something.

Latinos vary racially. I am often labelled a "white Hispanic" but the gulf between me and an Indio is huge, black and white, really. The Indio are simpletons. That is not an unfair assessment of them. They are prone to violence and dishonest to the core. They beat their wives and rape their children. Having lived among them--but kept my distance--I see them as destructive. The average immigrant from Argentina or Chile is not a problem; the average Mexican or Honduran is. America had allowed the bottom dwellers of Central America to invade them and pay for them for it. That the tax base is rapidly eroding and soon public infrastructure and public services like welfare and free medical services will collapse do not phase the average Latino at all. They lack the intelligence to grasp what is happening. The Latinos do not care. They plan to move to Canada next. I do not understand why the American public allows this to happen. The American people are paralyzed. This is a sign of a dying society.

Truly, America had destroyed itself.

Of course, these means the destruction of the world order which has only been maintained by an Anglo-America. Now, like ancient Rome, the barbarians are taking over and the empire is collapsing. I see a new dark age upon us, and I despair. America will not be able to right itself. Now the world will find itself at the mercy of too unmerciful nations: China and Russia. Everyone will lose.

Hopefully new small countries will appear after the catastrophe and learn from the mistakes of America and Europe.

Guest wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:18 pm Russia destroying Europe is in our national interest? That is my ancestral homeland. So what are we going to save? Mexico? Western civilization is part of America's national interest. Letting a bunch of third world Asiatics destroy Europe is not something I am willing to ignore.

Russia is NOT interested in destroying Europe. It's only interested in building a sphere of influence among the Orthodox-majority countries within the former USSR and within the Balkans.

El Jefe wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:37 am

Cool Breeze wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:59 am

John wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:40 am However, I've always been a little skeptical of that plan because some
years ago I was reading about polls that indicate the second and third
generation Latinos in California were opposed to open borders because
illegal immigrants would take the jobs and resources held by the
existing Latino population.

Your post appears to confirm that skepticism. However, it's not clear
to me whether your comments about Latinos (latins, Hispanics) leaving
the Democrat party applies also to the newly arrived immigrants.

This is accurate. The real issue is the new immigrants, yes, from Mexico/central/south america, who are marxists sympathizers and simpletons in this regard, returning again and again to Marxism in their governments even after great strides are made by conservative traditionalists in society and economy (Chile as greatest example). I suspect that the people from these countries are so poor they don't care about principle and just want the handout, as that what most humans, especially from these type of countries, get seduced by. By the time the Dems have to deal with true "americans" a few generations later wanting to shut down the portal to keep their own accumulated treasure and integrity of citizenship, they figure they'll come up with a different plan, or continue the enslavement of people by government control, as is happening. That is if elections are even real at this point, which I think they are partially, but mostly they are abused and cheated in the places that matter.

If I may interject something.

Latinos vary racially. I am often labelled a "white Hispanic" but the gulf between me and an Indio is huge, black and white, really. The Indio are simpletons. That is not an unfair assessment of them. They are prone to violence and dishonest to the core. They beat their wives and rape their children. Having lived among them--but kept my distance--I see them as destructive. The average immigrant from Argentina or Chile is not a problem; the average Mexican or Honduran is. America had allowed the bottom dwellers of Central America to invade them and pay for them for it. That the tax base is rapidly eroding and soon public infrastructure and public services like welfare and free medical services will collapse do not phase the average Latino at all. They lack the intelligence to grasp what is happening. The Latinos do not care. They plan to move to Canada next. I do not understand why the American public allows this to happen. The American people are paralyzed. This is a sign of a dying society.

Truly, America had destroyed itself.

Of course, these means the destruction of the world order which has only been maintained by an Anglo-America. Now, like ancient Rome, the barbarians are taking over and the empire is collapsing. I see a new dark age upon us, and I despair. America will not be able to right itself. Now the world will find itself at the mercy of too unmerciful nations: China and Russia. Everyone will lose.

Hopefully new small countries will appear after the catastrophe and learn from the mistakes of America and Europe.

I was going to make a comment on this very thing, but you get labeled all sorts of names for telling the truth about human groups and evolutionary history around here (especially lately). Thinker prompted my thought on it, because almost all the Cuban exiles that experienced communism AND got out were of Spanish origin (they're essentially caucasian). While there are mulatos down there, it is still very stratified and you also find that in the South American countries where the spanish descendants are the oligarchs and of course are preferred and stay together when mates are chosen, not always, but 95% of the time.

Race realism is labeled as "hatred" because people want to believe deep down in the lie of egalitarianism. But we know it can only be ignored if people are wealthy, and once they get wealthy they get sloppy and lazy, and then let incompetent people and women "lead" others, which is a historical reality and leads to greater demise and worse off situations for everyone. If you don't like it or believe it read the fate of empires by Glubb and then call him names too, not just me.

DaKardii wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:07 pm

Guest wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:18 pm Russia destroying Europe is in our national interest? That is my ancestral homeland. So what are we going to save? Mexico? Western civilization is part of America's national interest. Letting a bunch of third world Asiatics destroy Europe is not something I am willing to ignore.

Russia is NOT interested in destroying Europe. It's only interested in building a sphere of influence among the Orthodox-majority countries within the former USSR and within the Balkans.

And this would be a huge benefit to the world because the disgusting american culture and exported degeneracy, promoted by you know who but people want to lie about it, is always anti christian and hateful of christianity - which is why it is gone from american society at this point and the decay is happening. And please don't make me respond to any claims that christianity is actually around to a great degree in the institutions of society in America, it's been gone for decades and some just pay lip service to it like modern relativists love to do - consumer culture is the real God.

** 23-Jan-2022 World View: Indigenous vs European descendants

El Jefe wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:37 am > If I may interject something. Latinos vary racially. I am often
> labelled a "white Hispanic" but the gulf between me and an Indio
> is huge, black and white, really. The Indio are simpletons. That
> is not an unfair assessment of them. They are prone to violence
> and dishonest to the core. They beat their wives and rape their
> children. Having lived among them--but kept my distance--I see
> them as destructive. The average immigrant from Argentina or Chile
> is not a problem; the average Mexican or Honduran is. America had
> allowed the bottom dwellers of Central America to invade them and
> pay for them for it

OK, Chief.

This description of Indios is over the top, and some clarification is
need.

Generally speaking, a "white Hispanic" is someone descended from the
European (Spanish and Portuguese) invaders and colonizers. The
"Indios," also called "Amerindians," are the indigenous people who
preceded the invaders. There is sometimes a third category, the
Mestizos, who are the descendants of intermarriage between the two
other groups. A "mulato" is a pajorative term referring to someone
with mixed white and black ancestry.

Since the 1500s, the generational crisis wars in Latin America have
been mostly civil wars fought between indigenous people and European
invaders or their descendants. That would explain why you have such
strong negative feelings directed at the Indios. The most famous of
these crisis wars was the Great Bolvarian Revoution, where the Simón
Bolívar led the indigenous people to independence from Spain.

So the question that's relevant to the current discussion is the
difference in political views among these groups. The hypothesis
seems to be that the European descendants tend to be Republican, while
the indigenous descendants tend to be Democrat. Then the next
question would be how the the millions of illegal immigrants coming
across the open order are split between the two groups.

I discussed some of these issues in article over two years ago:

** 15-Nov-19 World View -- Ouster of Bolivia's president Evo Morales evokes memories of Ché Guevara
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e191115

I was sent some interesting articles today concerning Russia and the Ukraine.

The point of the articles is that the Russians may indeed be up to a lot more than just going after the Ukraine.

At the end of WW2, the Russians kept the eastern third of Poland that they had grabbed while Hitler's ally. To make it look like they hadn't done as much damage to Poland, they gave them the eastern quarter of so of Poland. This included rich areas such as Silesia, but also a part of East Prussia. The rest of East Prussia, around Konigsberg (now Kaliningrad) they took for themselves.

Due to the independence of the Baltics, this small area (what was once the northern half of German East Prussia) is now cut off from Russia itself. Russia does want a land corridor to this area, but that would have to go through Lithuania or Poland.

To make matters even more complicated, as described in the articles, the Lithuanians have cut off port access to the Belorussians, whose main source of cash is Potash exports.

The Russians have also moved amphibious landing ships from Murmansk to the Baltics, and this could be part of a larger operation on the part of the Russians. Their demands in the collapsed NATO talks were far wider than just complaints about Ukraine.

https://lnkd.in/e-SWUT7z
https://lnkd.in/e5HhFtzF

I should point out that the Baltics are utterly dependent on NATO deterrence for their defense, as Latvia and Estonia have standing armies of only a single brigade, while Lithuania has a total of 3 brigade equivalents. If Russia were to go into these countries, and NATO does not respond in full force, NATO could well collapse as a collective defense agreement, leaving each weakly defended (outside of maybe Poland) European country on its own.