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John
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Interesting comparison between 1930s Europe and today's Europe:

New preface to Charles Kindleberger, The World in Depression 1929-1939

Charles Kindleberger’s classic book on the Great Depression was
originally published 40 years ago. In the preface to a new edition,
two leading economists argue that the lessons are as relevant as ever.

The parallels between Europe in the 1930s and Europe today are stark,
striking, and increasingly frightening. We see unemployment, youth
unemployment especially, soaring to unprecedented heights. Financial
instability and distress are widespread. There is growing political
support for extremist parties of the far left and right.

...


http://www.voxeu.org/article/new-prefac ... -1929-1939
aedens
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Taxpayers are mental pets now and have been for decades. They are to selfish to even worry about them anymore. They have them with crayons in the fourth grade being brainwashed and these idiots called taxpayer could care less. They own them now. Those authors know this already.
Media: Keep the adult public attention diverted away from the real social issues, and captivated by matters of no real importance.
Schools: Keep the young public ignorant of real mathematics, real economics, real law, and real history.
Entertainment: Keep the public entertainment below a sixth-grade level. America is finished already between the ears.
When pushed hard by economists, some welfare propagandists and socialists admit that impairment of the average standard of living can only be avoided by the maintenance of capital already accumulated and that economic improvement depends on accumulation of additional capital. Maintenance of capital and accumulation of new capital, they say, will henceforth be a task of government. They will no longer be left to the selfishness of individuals, exclusively concerned with their own enrichment and that of their families.

I will not be subject to flash crashes algos no more. Good by.
https://d21uq3hx4esec9.cloudfront.net/i ... TTMYGH.pdf

America is hell bent on creating whatever narrative suits its agenda. In short -- we're doomed.
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gerald
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We live in a world of illusions, -- humanity has been bred as a limited thinking herd of slaves - looking for leaders.
An introduction -- a book -- htmlhttp://www.lloydpye.com/interventionebook.html -- there is much more elsewhere.
Think not? take a good look around. ---
Red pill or Blue pill -- your choice.
aedens
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gerald wrote:We live in a world of illusions, -- humanity has been bred as a limited thinking herd of slaves - looking for leaders.
An introduction -- a book -- http://www.lloydpye.com/interventionebook.html -- there is much more elsewhere.
Think not? take a good look around. ---
Red pill or Blue pill -- your choice.
Here is some elucidated points. I have some other long and short wave stuff that will short circuit some cloistered attitudes.
http://www.docin.com/p-5213931.html

On the other hand who cares. http://wenku.baidu.com/view/a6992d0fbb6 ... efa6e.html

Meanwhile some alien thought maps. http://astrocycle.net/2014-a-perfect-fi ... m/#more-60
Not clear how the debasement printing will shift the base out.

ISBN:0721614892

Asylum off to 1600 -1610 and from the research notes by the end the year they auger ~ 1710
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aedens
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John wrote:Interesting comparison between 1930s Europe and today's Europe:
New preface to Charles Kindleberger, The World in Depression 1929-1939 Charles Kindleberger’s classic book on the Great Depression was originally published 40 years ago. In the preface to a new edition, two leading economists argue that the lessons are as relevant as ever.
http://www.voxeu.org/article/new-prefac ... -1929-1939
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As you can see the Fed does not stabilize markets or is its intent. The view is plain on the cycles seen.

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA02/volpe/ ... nking.html
But the mass production economy of the 1920s was not accompanied by a mass consumption culture and could not maintain a level of profitability.
Overlapping zones and the end of the wage arbiters taking hold they say. I have watched compensation go from 600k to to over 6000k plus options
on the same capital base from these arbiters and decimate whole eco systems without regards. Like I conveyed the wrong persistance is a bullet in the head.
The ethical markers are key metrics to the viability of capital. We had a meeting in region epa 5 and still sorting sentiment to perceptions of participants.
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aedens
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The Gold/Silver Ratio is now around 61
Yep and you know what will be on that.
http://boombustblog.com/blog/item/9067- ... ng-to-come poof

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-privat ... ht/5332238
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No charts to prove my analysis, however I see company profits nearly everywhere increasing dramatically. These profits are coming on reduced revenues, reduced employment, reduced inventories and increases in consolidations, margins, prices, investments etc. This bubble can not end until the fed pulls the rug out from under TBTF entities including the insurance, banking, and giant multinational corporations. As long as the free money wagon keeps pulling up to the doors of these fine institutions they will continue to bank massive amounts of money for themselves. Why hire when you can increase prices and productivity demands on those still employed. The guvment is playing the role of the dole by handing out entitlements including SSDI, welfare, extended extended unemployment bennies, food stamps and god knows how many other allowance programs that give our money to those who refuse to work any longer. If you pay someone to not work they will not. Except under the table. This will continue until it won't. the second QE stops, the bubbles will pop. and the sheep will wonder what happened and will be pushed off the cliff as they should be.

cheers
sy
gerald
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aedens wrote:
gerald wrote:We live in a world of illusions, -- humanity has been bred as a limited thinking herd of slaves - looking for leaders.
An introduction -- a book -- htmlhttp://www.lloydpye.com/interventionebook.html -- there is much more elsewhere.
Think not? take a good look around. ---
Red pill or Blue pill -- your choice.
Here is some elucidated points. I have some other long and short wave stuff that will short circuit some cloistered attitudes.
http://www.docin.com/p-5213931.html

On the other hand who cares. http://wenku.baidu.com/view/a6992d0fbb6 ... efa6e.html

Meanwhile some alien thought maps. http://astrocycle.net/2014-a-perfect-fi ... m/#more-60
Not clear how the debasement printing will shift the base out.

ISBN:0721614892


Asylum off to 1600 -1610 and from the research notes by the end the year they auger ~ 1710

Why shouldn't the sun influence trading, the sun operates electromagnetically ( http://www.electricuniverse.info/Electric_Sun_theory ) and our brain is affected by the same forces.

"Pockett suggests that the EM ( electromagnetic ) field comprises a universal consciousness" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromag ... sciousness { so why not a mob event }

As you say "On the other hand who cares."

One can go hunting for a crocodile profit in a crocodile swamp, or sit on dry land watching, while being on the lookout and working to and avoid the lion.

Good hunting
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aedens wrote:Taxpayers are mental pets now and have been for decades. They are to selfish to even worry about them anymore. They have them with crayons in the fourth grade being brainwashed and these idiots called taxpayer could care less. They own them now. Those authors know this already.
Media: Keep the adult public attention diverted away from the real social issues, and captivated by matters of no real importance.
Schools: Keep the young public ignorant of real mathematics, real economics, real law, and real history.
Entertainment: Keep the public entertainment below a sixth-grade level. America is finished already between the ears.
When pushed hard by economists, some welfare propagandists and socialists admit that impairment of the average standard of living can only be avoided by the maintenance of capital already accumulated and that economic improvement depends on accumulation of additional capital. Maintenance of capital and accumulation of new capital, they say, will henceforth be a task of government. They will no longer be left to the selfishness of individuals, exclusively concerned with their own enrichment and that of their families.

I will not be subject to flash crashes algos no more. Good by.
https://d21uq3hx4esec9.cloudfront.net/i ... TTMYGH.pdf

America is hell bent on creating whatever narrative suits its agenda. In short -- we're doomed.
The masses have always and everywhere been sheep, no reason to get depressed.
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Re: Financial topics

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It was my prediction that the generational panic and stock market crash would start yesterday or today. So even if the stock market crashes as soon as tomorrow, the prediction was still wrong. There was a little mini-crash today, but that doesn't count. It was interesting though - maybe a forewarning. The bars on the chart below are 1 minute each. I'll leave it to others to extrapolate how much the Dow may go down when the inevitable crisis event takes place. I won't fill a lot more space talking about the timing of the coming crash - I stalked it and made my best guess. However, I think we're very, very close.
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While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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