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Higgenbotham wrote: > I believe cockroaches will be on this earth long after humans have
> exterminated themselves. If you objectively watch humans, they are
> programmed, just with programming that is inferior to that of
> cockroaches, ants, etc., from a survival standpoint. When I fly
> over major cities, to me they resemble anthills. There is very
> little thinking or intelligence involved beyond that of genetic
> programming. When there is, the significant result is to create
> something that will eventually be lethal and creates more useless
> human drama, like various kinds of weapons or waste.

Higgenbotham wrote: > Here it says cockroaches can live without their heads for a month:
> http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... earth.html

> If humans could figure out how to live without their heads they
> might have a better chance.

John wrote: A human being also has to be survive and propagate, but also has to do
many other things, such as build major cities. Because of their
complexity, humans and human beings are a lot more fragile than
cockroaches.

John wrote: Once again, this is news to me. I know a lot of humans that manage to
live without their heads.

Dangerfield cruises his domain on rent day in a midnight-blue Rolls Royce touring sedan, shadowed by a squad of armed bodyguards in a white Humvee military vehicle. He points his finger, and a private army springs to do his bidding.

"Don't tell me about the law," witnesses recalled Dangerfield telling one tenant as his troops smashed the man's furniture and threw it into an alley. "As far as you're concerned, I am the law."

.In June 1997, two of Dangerfield's tenants complained that he had refused to fix a broken-down rowhouse at 1943 N. Patterson Park Ave., where they were renting a room for $55 a week. The plumbing leaked. Wires hung out of the walls. Gas hissed from the broken stove. Rats and roaches teemed in the basement. Perusing the long list of deficiencies, a housing court judge ordered the landlord to fix the property and barred him from evicting his renters in the meantime. Two weeks later, on a hot July night, Dangerfield eased his Rolls Royce onto Patterson Park Avenue, parked it under a street light and watched in a pinstriped suit as five of his men tore the door off its hinges and herded the occupants into the street, witnesses later testified. "I felt like less than a man that night," recalls Eric Holmes, a 41-year-old disabled Army veteran who lived there with his wife. "But there was nothing I could do. They dragged us out of bed. One guy had a gun in his belt. The rest of them were all crowding around us, knocking stuff over and yelling. You ever seen a barroom brawl? That's what it was like. "Next thing I knew, I was on the sidewalk in my underwear. And George was laughing at us. They all were laughing at us. "As his troops shoved Holmes' belongings out a rear window into a garbage-strewn alley full of chained guard dogs, Dangerfield leaned on the gleaming hood of his Rolls out front, holding court for his many tenants on the block of rowhouse shells, court records show. Dangerfield owns four houses there, partitioned into tenement flats for three families, all sharing the same kitchen and bathroom and paying their rent week-to-week. Called into court for violating the judge's order, he pleaded guilty to wrongful eviction and received a $500 fine -- small consolation to Holmes and his wife. "It's like something out of a Charles Dickens novel," says Kenneth M. Walden, a poverty lawyer with the Public Justice Center who is now suing Dangerfield for assault and trespass in the incident. "We deal with some fairly desperate clients, so we're used to seeing bad conditions. But this is a new low. "That Mr. Dangerfield can get away with using tactics like these is a sign of how bad things are out there.

FreedomGuy wrote: > I happen to work in a medical field. I can tell you that Obamacare
> is a slow-motion economic train wreck you will watch in real
> time. It is going to show what happens when people who know
> virtually nothing about an industry take control for political
> purposes and to punish.

> I do not have the energy to elucidate every negative aspect, nor
> do I think I know all of them. However, just envision the fact
> that people have less than half the coverage at twice the price
> and no extra healthcare is actually being delivered anywhere, even
> at twice the price (insurance). It is a first rate economic drag
> and only the poor are laughing all the way to the doctor's
> office.

Higgenbotham wrote:

gerald wrote:John & Higbotham --- regarding limits of growth, basically there are none. But growth is limited by knowledge ( which includes scientific) and societal structure ( which includes political and religious - belief systems ). Examples of previous potential limits, whale oil for light, trees for fuel, and the sound barrier for speed. These proved not to be limits at all. Limits are generally self imposed by lack of knowledge and existing societal structure.

If there were no limits to growth the earth would be covered with a layer of cockroaches, or take your pick of species. Flies or rabbits or bacteria would be good choices as they also multiply quickly. Could you say that the fact that the earth (and solar system) isn't blanketed with cockroaches is due to lack of knowledge of the cockroaches?

Higgenbotham wrote:

John wrote:This is news to me. I thought that the world WAS blanketed with cockroaches.

John, we just need more low income apartments.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid= ... 4201&hl=en

Dr. Richard Patterson said the cockroach survey, the largest ever conducted by the US Department of Agriculture, concluded that 18,000 to 40,000 cockroaches live in the average low income apartment.

"That is a conservative estimate," Dr. Patterson said in an interview.