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Investments, gold, currencies, surviving after a financial meltdown
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http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to ... ICE!&csz=1

http://www.modernfeudalserf.org/article ... _scam.html

So, where are the so called Republicans? Yea thought so...

Karl Marx was a correspondence and political analyst for Horace Greeley, owner of the New York Times. In 1849 both Horace Greeley and Clinton
Roosevelt financially assisted the Communist league in London, in the publication of the Communist Manifesto. There are two cheques made payable
to Marx by Nathan Rothschild, which can be seen on display at the British Museum in London"

Here’s the “fudge factor” (notice [he] actually called it that in his REM statement):
‘yrloc=[1400,findgen(19)*5.+1904]
‘valadj=[0.,0.,0.,0.,0.,-0.1,-0.25,-0.3,0.,-0.1,0.3,0.8,1.2,1.7,2.5,2.6,2.6,2.6,2.6,2.6]*0.75 ; fudge factor
‘These 2 lines of code establish a 20-element array (yrloc) comprising the year 1400 (base year, but not sure why needed here) and 19 years between 1904 and 1994 in half-decade increments. Then the corresponding “fudge factor” (from the valadj matrix) is applied to each interval. As you can see, not only are temperatures biased to the upside later in the century (though certainly prior to 1964) but a few mid-century intervals are being biased slightly lower. That, coupled with the post-1930 restatement we encountered earlier, would imply that in addition to an embarrassing false decline experienced with their MXD [tree-ring proxies] after 1960 (or earlier), CRU’s “divergence problem” also includes a minor false incline after 1930. And the former apparently wasn’t a particularly well-guarded secret, although the actual adjustment period remained buried beneath the surface.
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/
http://www.epa.gov/agstar/documents/wor ... /ploss.pdf


Conclusion
Virtually every concern heightened by the economic downturn, especially job losses, would be exacerbated under the ANPR. As with cap-and-trade legislation, the EPA's suggested rulemaking would be poison to an already sick economy. But even in the best of economic times, this policy would likely end them. The estimated costs -- close to $7 trillion dollars and 3 million manufacturing jobs lost -- are staggering. So is the sweep of regulations that could severely affect nearly every major energy-using product from cars to lawnmowers, and a million or more businesses and buildings of all types. And all of this sacrifice is in order to make, at best, a minuscule contribution to an overstated environmental threat. Congress has wisely resisted implementing anything this costly and impractical. The fact that unelected and unaccountable EPA bureaucrats are trying to do the opposite is all the more objectionable.
http://www.heritage.org/research/report ... regulation
Ben Lieberman is Senior Policy Analyst in Energy and the Environment in the Thomas A. Roe Institute for Economic Policy Studies at The Heritage Foundation.

The EPA are just Brown shirts.
http://www.amazon.com/Government-Bullie ... nt+bullies

The 'global warming' debate is not really a debate about climatology - it is a debate about freedom. It is the aim of the growing world-government faction among the international classe politique to take away our hard-won freedom and democracy forever.
http://www.amazon.com/Air-Con-Seriously ... 470&sr=1-1

Those who read it will help to forestall the new Fascists and so to keep us free. --Lord Christopher Monckton, Viscount of Brenchley, former scientific advisor to Margaret Thatcher --Christopher Monckton, Viscount of Brenchley
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vincecate wrote: > John, can you give some idea of how bad you think the coming
> crisis will be? Like more killed by war/famine/disease than WW2?
> How long till things are back to current economic level?
- Worldwide MERS pandemic.
- Worldwide bird flu pandemic.
- Worldwide swine flu pandemic.
- Destruction of internet and satellites.
- Worldwide financial deflationary spiral and crash
- Numerous regional wars - Mideast, S. China Sea, etc.
- Civil war in China
- All building to major world war - China+ vs US+
- All nuclear weapons used by end of war
- Some 3 billion deaths.

That will leave 4 billion survivors to rebuild the world.

Super-intelligent computers will help rebuild the world in the 2020s,
with the Singularity occurring in the 2030 time frame.

This graphic is ten years old:

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John wrote: - Worldwide financial deflationary spiral and crash
- Numerous regional wars - Mideast, S. China Sea, etc.
- All building to major world war - China+ vs US+
- All nuclear weapons used by end of war
- Some 3 billion deaths.
Thanks.

In previous wars that I know of there has been inflation. Do you know of any war with deflation?

I think that once the world stops taking the US dollar that the US dollar, government, and economy collapses. So I think the victor will be clear early on. China will not need to nuke the US. I hope the US does not find a good enough reason to nuke first. I think things will be plenty bad enough and really hope it does not get to all nukes used. I think of the US collapse like the soviet collapse. Maybe a bunch of states spin off but I think it will be like a threat going away, so there is no need to kill it. Interesting times for sure.
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jcsok wrote:Looking for a top around late May of 1915 in the S&P.
Looks like a hit.
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Higgenbotham wrote:I am trying again now on the equivalent of the 1906 S&P 500 resonance level, which is about where the index would have topped out this morning in line with the futures.
This was a miss. What I do note in the above chart though is that the market gapped over the 1906 level.

The GDP revision is going to be released pre-market tomorrow morning. It's been well telegraphed that this revision will come in negative and consensus is that first quarter GDP will be revised to -0.5%.

It's possible that after the release of the revised GDP, the market may gap back down under 1906 and leave an island top with jcsok's high of 1915 left standing.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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At this time in 2008, the government was reporting positive GDP numbers which were subsequently revised to negative numbers. If we get a negative number today, how bad is it really?

http://useconomy.about.com/od/GDP-by-Ye ... istics.htm
Q1 2008 GDP: -2.7% (-1.8% in 2011 revision, -.7% in 2010, No prior revision)

•Advance Report: - Why slow growth at .6%, though painful, meant the economy (could have) avoided a recession.
•Second Report - Growth was revised up to .9%. Why it still felt like a recession, even though it technically wasn't.
•Third Report - Growth was revised up to 1% thanks to exports.
http://useconomy.about.com/b/2008/05/29 ... ession.htm
May 29, 2008
The BEA reported that the preliminary U.S. GDP growth for Q1 2008 is revised slightly up .9%, higher than its Advance report of .6%, and up from the Q4 2007 report, also .6%.
http://www.bea.gov/national/txt/dpga.txt

There are a lot of minuses over in the far right column from last quarter. Services and federal nondefense expenditures appear to be doing well.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - The U.S. economy contracted by 1% in the first quarter ...
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-eco ... 2014-05-29
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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