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There was no need to sabotage either of the pipelines. NS2 never went into operation while NS1 hasn't pumped gas for more than two weeks due to Russian decisions.DaKardii wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:57 pm Radoslaw Sikorski claims the US was behind the sabotage of Nordstream I, expresses gratitude for it
https://twitter.com/radeksikorski/statu ... 3724966915
Is natural gas a major source of connection between Europe and Russia?Xeraphim1 wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 5:39 pmThere was no need to sabotage either of the pipelines. NS2 never went into operation while NS1 hasn't pumped gas for more than two weeks due to Russian decisions.DaKardii wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:57 pm Radoslaw Sikorski claims the US was behind the sabotage of Nordstream I, expresses gratitude for it
https://twitter.com/radeksikorski/statu ... 3724966915
LolDaKardii wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:57 pm Radoslaw Sikorski claims the US was behind the sabotage of Nordstream I, expresses gratitude for it
https://twitter.com/radeksikorski/statu ... 3724966915
Once again, you prove yourself to be one of Russia's useful (or useless) idiots.DaKardii wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:57 pm Radoslaw Sikorski claims the US was behind the sabotage of Nordstream I, expresses gratitude for it
https://twitter.com/radeksikorski/statu ... 3724966915
I foresee human wave assaults supported by 'blocking brigades' like in WW2...Xeraphim1 wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 5:44 pm It's estimated than more than 100,000 Russians have passed into Kazakhstan. That many or more may also have passed into Georgia. When you add up all the other destinations including Finland, Estonia, Turkey and Mongolia, it's quite likely that more Russian men have left the country than were announced to be drafted.
It's also been reported that draftees are being sent to the front with only one day of "training" and are advised to bring their own sleeping bags and other equipment because all they're getting is a uniform.
I foresee either mass surrenders or a mass slaughter.
There was no need for either Germany or Russia to sabotage them. Germany needs the gas, and Russia needs the leverage and especially the income. Neither can afford the pipeline's destruction.Xeraphim1 wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 5:39 pmThere was no need to sabotage either of the pipelines. NS2 never went into operation while NS1 hasn't pumped gas for more than two weeks due to Russian decisions.DaKardii wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:57 pm Radoslaw Sikorski claims the US was behind the sabotage of Nordstream I, expresses gratitude for it
https://twitter.com/radeksikorski/statu ... 3724966915
Do you still think the US did it?DaKardii wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:08 amThere was no need for either Germany or Russia to sabotage them. Germany needs the gas, and Russia needs the leverage and especially the income. Neither can afford the pipeline's destruction.Xeraphim1 wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 5:39 pmThere was no need to sabotage either of the pipelines. NS2 never went into operation while NS1 hasn't pumped gas for more than two weeks due to Russian decisions.DaKardii wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:57 pm Radoslaw Sikorski claims the US was behind the sabotage of Nordstream I, expresses gratitude for it
https://twitter.com/radeksikorski/statu ... 3724966915
Given these facts, in my opinion it is more likely than not that a third party was responsible. Although I am still open to the possibility that it actually was Russia who did it, because the conflict in Ukraine has the potential to become a crisis war and according to Generational Dynamics combatants tend to act irrationally during such conflicts.
Who benefits the most? The USA. So yeah, I bet the USA did it. Plus, back in February, Biden basically said he would do anything necessary to shut down the pipelines.Guest wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:46 amDo you still think the US did it?DaKardii wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:08 amThere was no need for either Germany or Russia to sabotage them. Germany needs the gas, and Russia needs the leverage and especially the income. Neither can afford the pipeline's destruction.
Given these facts, in my opinion it is more likely than not that a third party was responsible. Although I am still open to the possibility that it actually was Russia who did it, because the conflict in Ukraine has the potential to become a crisis war and according to Generational Dynamics combatants tend to act irrationally during such conflicts.
Who did it is less important than what this event will precipitate. It's a major event for Europe and the war. Europe is already in trouble and now gone is a large amount of energy and heating fuel for the winter. Social instability has been rising sharply and now could get really ugly.thomasglee wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:52 amWho benefits the most? The USA. So yeah, I bet the USA did it. Plus, back in February, Biden basically said he would do anything necessary to shut down the pipelines.Guest wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:46 amDo you still think the US did it?DaKardii wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:08 am
There was no need for either Germany or Russia to sabotage them. Germany needs the gas, and Russia needs the leverage and especially the income. Neither can afford the pipeline's destruction.
Given these facts, in my opinion it is more likely than not that a third party was responsible. Although I am still open to the possibility that it actually was Russia who did it, because the conflict in Ukraine has the potential to become a crisis war and according to Generational Dynamics combatants tend to act irrationally during such conflicts.