29-Apr-17 World View -- Protesters storm Macedonia's parliament fearing calls for 'Greater Albania'

[John]

> John, You seem to have missed the sinking of a Russian military
> vessel by a collision with a Turkish freighter. Given the nature
> and normal behavior of Turks and Russians, I'd say the Russians
> were doing their usual thing of playing chicken with other
> vessels, and the Turkish captain simply rammed them.

> http://www.businessinsider.com/a-russia ... key-2017-4

> As for North Korea, there is no solution short of killing everyone
> in the country old enough to be indoctrinated in their religious
> leadership system. Yes, that's what it is, reading the press
> releases on Kim's death was more than enough proof of that.

> Essentially, North Korea is a gigantic Jim Jones cult with a 7.7
> million man army (counting reserves and paramilitary).

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... _personnel

> To actually fight them conventionally, you'd have to assume they'd
> stand up and fight, and that we'd get a 7 to 1 kill ratio, and
> that no part of them would fade back and use the guerilla tactics
> they've been trained in. None of which would be likely to be
> true, and moreover, you'd be assuming they have nothing hidden or
> mobile in the way of missiles, and you'd also be assuming they
> would not have the backing of China - and they do.

> Going nuclear at the start of the fight would not win it, it would
> simply make it impossible to stop. And the USA is far more
> vulnerable to nukes than North Korea, vis the Floyd Commission.
> https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/ ... 13-EMP.pdf

> http://www.empcommission.org/

> North Korea is perhaps the most bunkered and dug in country on the
> planet. And they don't depend on electricity the way the USA
> does. And they are certainly the most militarized.

> Perhaps the most rational thing to do would be to kill every
> member of the Jong family, including all children, and every
> current member of the "peoples government". That might shock the
> North Koreans enough to cause a reversion to normalcy over
> time.

A couple of comments.

Many malicious acts turn out to be caused by stupidity rather than
malice. As far as we know now, the boat collision may really have
been an accident.

Second, it's the Kim family.

[guest]

A simple Google search backs what I'm saying:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... he-balkans

And no, I'm not Albanian. And it's easy to connect the dots. Only the Serbs believe they are really clever. Everyone can see what what they are doing. That Europe has allowed the Serbs to get away with so much only reveals the Westerner Europe cowardly nature.

If America abandons NATO, Europe is finished. Withhout American guns, Europe will fall to barbaric peoples like the Serbs and Russians.

P.S. The Montenegrins are as nasty and guilty as the Serbs (there is no difference between them). The Montenegrins see a way out of the pariah status by distancing themselves from the crimes against humanity they were equally involved in in the Balkan wars. They are happy to drop the Serbs for awhile if it will gain them "normal human being " status.

[John]

The article that you've referenced doesn't even mention Albania, so it
has nothing to do with the article I was writing, or the subject of
"Greater Albania"

[guest]

The article that you've referenced doesn't even mention Albania, so it
has nothing to do with the article I was writing, or the subject of
"Greater Albania"

Your article on "Greater Albania" was totally wrong. The events you describe have nothing to do with "Greater Albania" because no such drive exists. Even the Macedonian politicians (including the democratically elected PM) were savagely beaten by Macedonian nationalists while Macedonian police stood by and did nothing (the police are on the payroll of the former nationalist administration).

You asked about how the Serbs and Russians were involved, and I explained it. This is part of a larger plan: to destabilize the Balkans, reconstruct a "Greater Serbia", damage/destroy NATO, and take control of Macedonia and put it into the Serb/Russian orbit.

A defacto "Greater Serbia" already exists: half of Bosnia (Republik Serbska) and northern territory in Kosova. The Serbs just want to make it official, declare victory, and show that genocide and mass rape are effective ways to build an empire. Medieval barbarism would have made a triumphant return to Europe.

[John]

You can google the phrase "Greater Albania" and get thousands of hits.
So your claim that the drive does not exist is not credible, which
means that everything else you say has dubious credibility.

If it makes you happy, there are also thousands of hits for "Greater
Serbia." And by the way, I've written about Serb atrocities many
times.

In 2001, there was an attempted coup by ethnic Albanians. Whether you
want to call that a "drive for Greater Albania" or you want to call it
something else doesn't matter. Thursday's protests by Macedonians
were partly a lingering reaction to the 2001 coup attempt.

The Albanians are Muslim. The Macedonians, Serbs and Russians are all
Orthodox Christian. The Muslim and Orthodox Christian civilizationss
have had repeated massive wars for centuries, centered in the Balkans,
Crimea, and the Caucasus. And there's going to be another massive
civilizational war between Muslims and Orthodox Christians, as I've
been predicting for years.

The conflict between ethnic Macedonians and ethnic Albanians is a
microcosm of this coming massive civilization war, which is why this
is an important story.

And saying that Thursday's protests were about nothing more than
corruption is just blowing smoke.

[guest]

Did you know that 1/3 of Albanians are Christian? That the Prime Minister Edi Rama of Albania is Roman Catholic? The national Hero of Albania, Skanderbeg, was also Catholic? One of the first leaders of the country, Fan Noli, was an Orthodox Christian? Your analysis is dubious, at best. At worst, it's dangerously ignorant.

You totally screwed up the article on this thread, and you seem unwilling to admit your mistakes.

Their are numerous stories being published today about Putin's string pulling in the newspapers today, and your still banging away about "Greater Albania"? When's the last time Albania invaded any country? How many countries has Albania attacked in the last hundred years? Answer: None. Next you're going to accuse the Bosnian Muslims of plotting a "Greater Bosnia."

Albania lacks the military might to do anything. NATO demanded that Albania scrap and destroy its massive stockpile of weapons, leaving the country almost defenseless. And yet, we are supposed to believe that Albania is planning a blitzkrieg operation. It's Serbia that is rearming. The Russians have ben rearming them with Mig-29s and an array of heavy weapons. The Albanians don't even have a single fighter plane.

When it comes to the Macedonians, Albania's one of the few countries that recognizes Macedonian ethnicity; unlike the Greeks who call Macedonians "Bulgarians" and refuse to even recognize their country's name, all the while insisting that the Macedonian King Alexander the Great was "Greek". It's the Greeks that vetoed Macedonia's entry into NATO, not Albania. Albania has always supported Macedonia's efforts to enter NATO.

Villainizing the victims. How original, John.

[John]

Once again, the attempted coup in 2001 was an uprising by ethnic
Albanians. You're a total moron. By the way, you still haven't
identified yourself in any way, though it's obvious that you're an
extreme pro-Albanian ideologue.

"Villainizing the victims. How original, John."

This illustrates the crap that typically comes from extreme ideologues
like yourself. I'm just describing what happened during protests, and
relating it to centuries of wars between Muslims and Orthodox
Christians. To you that means I'm victimizing the poor, helpless
Albanians.

[John]

This is turning out to be one of the most vitriolically contentious
article I've ever written. The comments to this article on the
Breitbart site have ideologues on both sides calling each other names.
Several also call me the most incompetent author of all time.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... r-albania/

My conclusion from this situation is that history is repeating itself
in the sense that the Balkans are one of the most explosive regions in
the world. There has been speculation by me and others about where WW
III would start -- South China Sea, Kashmir, Mideast, etc. But now I
would have to say that the Balkans is moving close to the top of the
list.

[guest]

Once again, the attempted coup in 2001 was an uprising by ethnic
Albanians. You're a total moron. By the way, you still haven't
identified yourself in any way, though it's obvious that you're an
extreme pro-Albanian ideologue.

"Villainizing the victims. How original, John."

This illustrates the crap that typically comes from extreme ideologues
like yourself. I'm just describing what happened during protests, and
relating it to centuries of wars between Muslims and Orthodox
Christians. To you that means I'm victimizing the poor, helpless
Albanians.

You're the total moron. I'm not even Albanian. I'm American. I have no Balkan DNA at all. And no, my wife isn't from their either. 2001 was an ethnic uprising, I've never denied that.(I haven't even brought it up.) You're creating things out of mid-air. I've been talking about what has been happening in 2016-17.

You have no basic understanding of what is going on in the Balkans. To paint Albanians as "Muslims" and Macedonians as "Christians" is not just simplistic, but incorrect. Religion is not strong across the Balkans. It's more about ethnicity.

The Albanians fought against the harder than anyone, and they were the last to fall. The Albanians, even the Muslim Albanians, fought against the and never gave up fighting for their independence.

You said in your wildly inaccurate article that it was hard to figure out the Macedonians using your template. The same could be said of Albania.

You also place too much emphasis on religion over ethnicity in the Balkans in general.

In the next few weeks, perhaps war will break out in Balkans. The Europeans will do nothing, as usual. Refugees will flood out by the millions. How much more can European welfare states endure? We are about to find out.

[John]

From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, groups, societies and
nations form identity groups based on a variety of demographic
factors, including religion, ethnicity, skin color and geography. In
the Balkans, all these demographic factors come into play, and
historically many people have been torn between different identity
groups because they belong to conflicting demographic groups.

Like it or not, the Balkans region has historically been part
of massive civilizational wars between Muslims and Orthodox
Christians. That would mean, for example, that the Christian
minority in Albania would be torn between the two sides. But it
would not change the fact that there is a major civilization war.

> In the next few weeks, perhaps war will break out in
> Balkans.

Are you stating this as a hypothetical for the sake of discussion, or
do you have some specific reason for actually believing this?