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FishbellykanakaDude
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John wrote:> WuHuFlu is not an existential threat, therefore not a reason to
> unify around The President.

Don't fight the trend.
Sometimes eddies vector the same as the expected eventual main current, but never mistake one for the other.

( Or in surfer talk, "CUT da rip t' get t' da break, lōlō..!",.. which roughly translates to, "If you want to get to the break and not end up far out to sea, traverse the channel rip-tide by paddling perpendicular to it, you f***in' idiot!" )

They're both threats, but only one is existential.

..and that would be China, proper.

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Xeraphim1 wrote:
Burner Prime wrote: I and others here have argued that if the US enters some existential crisis or WWIII begins, the US population will shred into pieces with left and right factions going into open conflict ...
This is silly.
Who is the "left" and who is the "right"? This isn't tribal Africa and there aren't self supporting communities to lead such a schism. ...

... Mexico is barely functional in the best of times ...
Bingo!

Burner's chosen moniker tells us all we need to know about Burner. "Burn it down, baby,.. burn it all down!"

That simply shows Burner's fundamental ignorance of the people of the US.

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John wrote:In a little while it will be Friday the 13th.

In Asia, where stock prices are crashing, it's already Friday the 13th.
Right, so Asia crashed a bit.

And the West has anti-crashed. <chuckle!>

Of course, that WILL make Asia pissy, and more likely to throw tantrums, but,.. so what?

This whole situation of the West being reliant on Asia (China) for pharma et al WILL prod the West to ween itself off of that reliance, and THAT will REALLY piss off Asia (China),.. but that will happen in the medium range future, giving us time to prepare for that pissiness.

In the short term, Asia (China) NEEDS the money to keep coming in, and REALLY doesn't need more instability in their country, so they'll simply have to swallow their pissiness and carry on.

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** 13-Mar-2020 World View: Buying oil - Part II
FishbellykanakaDude wrote: > Isn't the obvious thing for the US to do being to pay the shale
> oil companies a "stay alive" rate, while buying up a shitload of
> this "cheap overseas oil" and stashing it into the strategic
> reserve, until one (or both) of the "race to the bottom" oil
> producers can't sustain their production rates any longer?

> Why would we NOT save our production and reserve capability?

> Why would we buy expensive oil ("ours") when we could buy cheap
> oil ("theirs")?

> I'm sure I'm missing something, but it's probably just
> bureaucratic nonsense and BS.

> So, what am I missing?
Here is what Donald Trump said at his press conference this
afternoon (my transcription):
> "Based on the price of oil I've also instructed the
> Secretary of Energy to purchase, at a very good price, large
> quantities of crude oil for storage in the US Strategic Reserve.
> We're gonna fill it right up to the top. Saving the American
> taxpayer billions and billions of dollars, helping our oil
> industry and making the US further toward that wonderful goal
> which we achieved which nobody thought possible of energy
> independence. It puts us in a position that's very strong and
> we're buying it at the right price, and that's something that
> wouldn't have been possible even a week ago, and the price of oil
> went down quite a bit. We're gonna fill it up. This is a good
> time to fill it up."

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<chuckle!>

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Anyone think the virus was leaked on purpose by China?

Oh look, the Chinese had a lethal virus leak out of their Level 4 bio lab in Wuhan. Stupid Chinese can't do anything right!

Making it look like an accidental leak in China while knowing it would get to the United States is the perfect first shot in a war.

China being a communist totalitarian country, knew it could contain the virus easy and the United States could not. If I was China I would wait until the virus has spread and taken hold all over in the United States to the point where it is in Italy right now then launch the surprise attack.

If the outbreak was a panic in China why was the PLA not deployed everywhere?

https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2020/0 ... ia/162950/
As the 2019 novel coronavirus spread into a full-fledged epidemic, China’s government took an extraordinary series of responses, effectively quarantining some 50 million people in the Wuhan area. But even as the government (somewhat belatedly) sprung into action, its limited mobilization of Chinese military assets and personnel has been notable — both because militaries traditionally play significant roles in battling pandemics and Beijing has in recent years been at pains to trumpet its burgeoning military capability.
Cities’ emergency response systems are also being tested. Across China, many cities hold annual large-scale civil defense and other crisis response exercises. Chongqing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, for example, each held exercises simulating air attack or crisis response in 2019 involving mobilization of police, militia and civilian organizations—often in coordination with the PLA. While touted as an example of China’s ability to move rapidly as a whole to a war or crisis response footing, so far they have been inactive in a real crisis.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 548346.cms
China fired more than 100 ballistic missiles during testing and exercises in 2019, according to sources close to the US military. Such a figure greatly exceeded what the USA and Russia launched, and it illustrates that China is not decelerating in any way its development of missiles for the PLA Rocket Force (PLARF).
Most missiles are test-fired in northwest China, where the USA and others have poor radar coverage. The USA must, therefore, use satellites to detect the heat signatures of missile launches.

Among the missiles that China fired last year, a large number were DF-21D medium-range anti-ship ballistic missiles (MRBM) and DF-26 IRBMs. The latter has a range of up to 4,000km and it can reach military targets in Guam when fired from Mainland China. These two missiles illustrate Chinese efforts
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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Look what China accomplished:

Ended the Hong Kong protests
Crippled the American Economy
Disrupted the politics of the trade deal with the United States
Pure panic in the United States - go try to find toilet paper right now
China has too many people anyway, if they lose some to the virus they can almost be viewed as fallen soldiers in war

If the virus really starts killing people in the United States and tying up resources it ends up being more effective then a missile attack. Nobody is looking at China for blame. The blame is partisan politics. Trump blaming Democrats and the previous administration, the Democrats blaming Trump and not working with him on passing relief legislation. China doesn't have to worry about a retaliatory attack from the United States.

Now the virus is in India. All China has to do is wait until the enemies become weak then swoop in for the killing strike.

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Guest wrote:Look what China accomplished:

Ended the Hong Kong protests
Crippled the American Economy
Disrupted the politics of the trade deal with the United States
Pure panic in the United States - go try to find toilet paper right now
China has too many people anyway, if they lose some to the virus they can almost be viewed as fallen soldiers in war

If the virus really starts killing people in the United States and tying up resources it ends up being more effective then a missile attack. Nobody is looking at China for blame. ...

... All China has to do is wait until the enemies become weak then swoop in for the killing strike.
Write it up as a story, buckeroo! Sounds like a good scenario.

To make it believable, of course, you'll have to account for how China remains "strong" and their adversaries become "increasingly weaker", as well as how the inherent strength of the West's economy versus the "shaky" Chinese economy is "overcome" by the Chinese.

Keep running down these, and other, believability factors, as you'll find other very interesting "side-effects" of this scenario that should point to other things in "real life" that either confirm or discredit your predictions.

Go for it, dude! :)

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tim wrote:Anyone think the virus was leaked on purpose by China?

... If the outbreak was a panic in China why was the PLA not deployed everywhere?

...
Second first: They didn't want the PLA "plagued" by WuHuFlu. Waving your dead neighbors in your face tends to make you run scared and hide out and not "protest".

First second: Not impossible, by any means,.. but it's rather like a soldier shooting himself in the gut as a ploy to lure his enemy closer to kill him.

..he's still got the gut shot to contend with.

But, let's hear your scenario in more detail. Sounds interesting! :)

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14-Mar-20 World View -- Iran's army to monitor entire population for Wuhan Coronavirus

Iran and China call Wuhan Coronavirus a US Army bioweapon

** 14-Mar-20 World View -- Iran's army to monitor entire population for Wuhan Coronavirus
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e200314




Contents:
Wuhan Coronavirus spreads rapidly through Iran, with Qom as epicenter
Iran's army to clear the streets, and monitor the population
Iran and China call Wuhan Coronavirus a US Army bioweapon


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Iran, Qom, Wuhan Coronavirus, Covid-19,
China, Wuhan, Fatemeh Rahbar, Seyed Ali Hosseini Khamenei,
Mohammad Bagheri, Zhao Lijian

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