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Higgenbotham
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aeden wrote:Agree H and we will see what the fallout continues to bring.
There's not one of these analogs I think is close to being appropriate, but they're all we've got to compare to. The main problem I see with using 1990 Japan as a comparison is it was 43 years after their post WWII baby boom peak, and for the US that was 2004 at the latest.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

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aeden wrote:By 1996 it was clear the mushroom fin cloud was coming. I was a couple of years off and much
better off thinking on code and parameters.
Yes, absolutely, and 1995 was the year Prechter published At the Crest of the Tidal Wave where he predicted quite reasonably that the 215 year bull market (at that time) was coming to an end.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

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aeden wrote:https://www.google.be/search?biw=1440&b ... 8klKyQbCeE

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And remember, there are some people who think the “UniParty” isn’t real.

He appealed to the economic underdogs of his day, the Deplorables of the 1970s who wanted their country rescued from the cultural excesses of the Sixties, like burning cities, rioting, radical-leftist terrorism and the complete dismantlement of social mores.
Seventies Deplorables could feel the drop in real wages, too, that started ripping the middle class apart in the early seventies, as women entered the workforce en mass, driving down wages as an oversupply of labor does, especially when some job seekers can afford to work for less due to unearned income streams.
After the offshoring of over 2 million jobs to Asia, and after 4 decades of displacement by millions of welfare-supported legal /illegal immigrants, it is a lot worse for the Deplorables of 2018.
It is worse culturally as well, not because Americans hate immigrants. We don’t. We do want reasonable numbers of new immigrants, not an invasion, and we want the welfare-buttressed, illegal immigration to end.

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The uniparty firewall is holding up and the office knows it. The indications are correct that they cannot allow the center to regroup.
Operation 936 was the fallout approach to sear the edges of no way back.
The triangulation political effect was the wedge and the simple reinterpretation of mores
from previous bolt on operative tool box. Not a point to trip over just decades to diluting the pool.

https://www3.nd.edu/~jstiver/FIN462/US% ... rashes.pdf

2. Unequal Distribution of Corporate Power
From the late 1870s on, there had been an ongoing movement of consolidations and
mergers. During World War I, many would-be competitors were merged into huge
corporations like General Electric, making competition nearly nonexistent. In 1929 two
hundred of the biggest corporations controlled 50% of the corporate wealth in America.

5. Limited or Poor State of Economic Intelligence
Most American economists and political leaders in 1929 still believed in laissez-faire and
the self- regulating economy. To help the economy along in its self-adjustment, President
Hoover asked businesses to voluntarily hold down production and increase employment,
but businesses couldn't keep up high employment for long when they were not selling
goods. There was a widespread belief that if the federal budget were balanced, the
economy would bounce back. To balance the budget demanded no further tax cuts
(although Hoover lowered taxes) and no increase in government spending, which was
disastrous in the light of rising unemployment and falling prices. Another problem with
economic practices of the day was the commitment of the Hoover administration to
remain on the international gold standard. Many suggested increasing the money supply
and devaluing the dollar by printing paper money not backed by gold, but Hoover
refused. Going off the gold standard was one of the first actions of new President
Roosevelt in 1933.

http://historysstory.blogspot.com/2014/ ... on-dc.html
Inaction until they had to see.

Later the left embraces and seizes the narrative today to what we already know, and some worked very hard to stabilize issues.
Ask them what does burning City's smell like. No we are on same planet as you use children to verbatim Marxist on out tax dollar.
https://www.pbs.org/johngardner/chapters/5b.html

adjective rent or split apart.

Intercity jobs went to the suburbs.
Suburbia jobs went to Nafta.
The cratering effect we noted did two things as the organizers of both
ideological fronts cannot fathom the hard edges of both are not wanted
since taxpayers understand we where screwed by both.
We seen your death cult coming.

https://ppc.sas.upenn.edu/sites/ppc.sas ... ssat50.pdf
Nope your still posting from someplace other than Planet Earth because The period inaugurated by Reagan's election in 1980 to 2008 was a period of economic growth for the US. Since 2008 we've had largely economic stagnation because vested interests (mostly boomers) are manipulating the markets using to fed in order to refuse to allow an actual Correction/Crash to take place because said interests are the ones who invested in the bubble in the first place would stand to lose out the most in a real crash. The 1980 to 2008 period was NOT a liberal/left economic era, the 1970s were much much more Marxist under Ford/Carter than anything after 1980 was. The very Notion of carter being a good president is nonsense, given his disastrous term; that the people eventually elected Reagan instead was pretty much inevitable.

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I would characterize the 1982 to 2008 boom as a false boom aided by the growth in debt and smaller bailouts (for example Citibank and Chrysler in the early 1980s). But a boom with semi-real economic growth nonetheless. Such booms can be accomplished with a Depression to follow and many have been.

Since 2008, the economy and the stock market have become decoupled to the greatest extent in history that I know of. During previous less extreme decouplings, there were bubbles such as the Holland Tulip Bubble, but they were not all-encompassing or government supported. The current stock market bubble is a bubble like none other, in my opinion, and it will end more badly than any other (in a Dark Age rather than a Depression). But it's not the stock market bubble itself that is the real problem and cause of the coming Dark Age; it is just symptomatic of the short term and shallow thinking occurring across the board. The Fed is "all in" now and there's no precedent for that.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

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We posted the deficit numbers from Mr. Reagan and yes many got upset with that also. Nominal growth is fine for discussion as we migrated from 8088 chipsets while the Tax Reform Act of 1986 with the alternative minimum tax (AMT) reduced nominal rates on the wealthy and eliminated tax deductions, while raising tax rates on lower-income individuals. Ask California about mental health clinics closed for expenditures today. The discussion we left it at was the Fresno effect and left a few papers here on its effects. I can assume he paid taxes in eighties so all good.
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as posted http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1 ... the_og.pdf

abler archer, ryan, ogarkov

Then our race will be no more, or be not us. Hawkeye: That is my father's sadness talking. Chingachgook: No, it is true. The frontier place is for people like my white son and his woman and their children. And one day there will be no more frontier. And men like you will go too, like the Mohicans. And new people will come, ...

unwise with a foundation of avarice
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While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

aeden
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cutouts is back
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03- ... -our-lives

https://squawker.org/conspiracy/confirm ... -progress/
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/browa ... story.html
http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content ... iction.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZDcigHx03M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RtXfI1VXm0 true question eliminated

80 hour work week - so then they think - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU7AewaHr0Q
1/1000 make when they even get to that level
4 years older, equal and above.... from that you can see why they torture each other....

For the true believers sleights imposed went to violence is the social pathology.
Interviews of juvenile murderers to Corporate litigation means.
Perfectly aimed darts to assail the enemy.

For those who missed it, the context of violence is cultured for the effect.

Pushing them over the edge is the art form.
Ignore is the Human condition since they linger in the total theory bias.

That other world where that is impossible since it does not fit.
http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/ political insanity

aeden
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I think your dark ages theme points out some stark realities on ethics and sad to say Doctor Albert Schweitzer findings which are disturbing
just as the Coudenhove-Kalergi plans for the future in obvious implications.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Cont ... -Holocaust

Minority views are not always wise just decisions of fallable people like we all can be until provoked. I have learned some events are difficult
to accept even when a few are paying attention.

...regardless of political considerations. Whatever his motives, D'Alesandro was taking a big risk. He knew that by defying Roosevelt and Truman, he might be making enemies in the White House. In 1947, at the very moment he was breaking ranks with Truman over Palestine, D'Alesandro decided to run for mayor of Baltimore.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03- ... gures-warn

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=detroit+genti ... hg&ia=news

Like the locals tell you when the street lights change color you should turn around. That is changing also.

Chicago will lose its distinctive orange nocturnal glow as the city launches an ambitious initiative to replace 85% of its public
outdoor lights with whiter LED models.

The old lights told you pilgrim your may not get out in a safe manner as compared to the "zone".

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aeden wrote:I think your dark ages theme points out some stark realities on ethics...
Back in late 2011 I posted:
My thesis is that a Dark Age scale population reduction can only come about through large scale individual moral and institutional failure.
I think it has to be, at its root, an ethics problem. There are a lot of commonalities to, let's say, the pervasive belief that it is acceptable for an institution not to be Triple A, not to have pristine credit. It's become acceptable, even considered preferable, not to be or exhibit pristine anything on both an individual and institutional level.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

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