Financial topics

Investments, gold, currencies, surviving after a financial meltdown
aeden
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/final ... -or-nevada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p50k_kklM7g

Crash no H

Adjust yes.

We have our health and will reread the words of Jeremiah son of Hilkiah,
one of the priests at Anathoth in the territory of Benjamin.
Jeremiah lived during the most crucial period of Judah 's existence as a kingdom.
He saw the destruction of Jerusalem and the holy Temple, after he had incessantly warned his
people to mend their ways before it was too late.

As we read He will have mercy upon who he wishes. Our needs are seen today as enough.
Get to the Light.

As we warned they have nothing but contempt for us.
"Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however,
in malice be babes, but in understanding be men". – 1 Corinthians 14:20
Higgenbotham
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My guess on the upcoming crash is it'll be similar to what happened in the oil market.

Who predicted oil was going to 10? Who predicted oil was going to zero? Who predicted oil was going to minus 40?

Find that person and ask them what stocks are going to do. Problem is, you can't find that person. Well, Gail said oil was going to 10 but that was 5 years ago. I said stocks were going to zero but that was 4 years ago.

I think we will get our Ohio Life or Credit Anstalt (spellcheck suggests "Beanstalk" here) one morning soon and stocks will go no bid. But valuations are nothing like 1857 or 1931, stocks will go no bid and, yes, there will be a second and even bigger crash. That will surprise a lot of people, like when oil went to minus 40. Where do I think stocks will go when that happens? They will head toward zero, but the market will be shut first.

Then all hell will break loose.

I searched for who predicted oil would go negative and found this:

https://markets.businessinsider.com/com ... 1029118352

and this:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/21/morse-d ... 20-ec.html

One says oil will go to minus 100 this month and the other says oil will not go negative again and will rebound to 50 by year end.

Whoops, that didn't help and now we're back to a coin flip on stocks. Bot smashing is all I've got.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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The NASDAQ is now higher than it was at the start of the year. With so much of the world economy stopped for so long this seems crazy. The S&P500 at least has the sense to be down a bit from the start of the year. I am thinking to buy some NASDAQ-100 puts on Monday.
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John wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 10:43 am ** 09-May-2020 World View: The Prophet
richard5za wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 2:27 pm > I wonder how many people are planning a stock market crash this
> month? I am. Plus H = 2. Plus V =3 What about A - will you put a
> line in the water?
John wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 3:04 pm > No one knows the day or hour. The angels in heaven don't know, and
> the Son himself doesn't know.
richard5za wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 1:31 pm > In human form, pre-Resurection, your comment about the Son is
> correct. But time is part of God's creation and God lives outside
> of time, and is not constrained by time. God's sees from the
> beginning to the end of time. So God knows exactly what will
> happen in the future in every detail.
Aaah yes, once again we revisit that great historical paradox -- if
God is omniscient and can foresee everything, then everything is
predetermined, and there's no free will.

Generational Dynamics shows that there's a lot less free will than
people think anyway. Populations and generations do things that have
been predetermined for decades, sometimes for centuries. Generational
Dynamics incorporates Chaos Theory, Complexity Theory, and System
Dynamics applied to population flows. System Dynamics tells you what
is predetermined, and Chaos Theory tells you what is not.

Catholic Theology could resolve the omniscience vs free will paradox
by incorporating a souped-up Chaos Theory into Catholic Theology.
Under this modification, God would be omniscient and could foresee all
the important things, but he would be unable to foresee some of the
details, which is what Chaos Theory says. Send that up to your pals
in Rome and tell them that they're free to use it with my compliments.

I also think that there's a lot less free will on an individual basis
than people think. There's the concept of a "calling" -- being called
to the priesthood, to medicine, to teaching, to politics, etc. --
where people say, "I didn't pick this job; this job picked me."
richard5za wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 1:31 pm > With this updated theological information, and your ability to
> read the signs of the times, you could apply to be a prophet!
I feel that the "calling" concept applies to me and Generational
Dynamics. I can think back to high school and think of things that
pushed me in this direction. So I could also say, "I didn't pick
Generational Dynamics; Generational Dynamics picked me." So in a
sense I don't need to apply to be a prophet (whatever that means),
because prophethood has already applied to me.

And I've compared myself to the the Biblical Jeremiah. We know from
Ecclesiastes that Solomon had an intuitive understanding of
generational theory, and Jeremiah would have been familiar with
Solomon. It must have been pretty obvious to Jeremiah for years that
Jerusalem was headed for catastrophe, just as it's been obvious to me
for 15 years that the world is headed for a financial and WW III
catastrophe.

But the world is not kind to prophets. Jeremiah was thrown into a pit
when he predicted the fall of Jerusalem. He was stoned to death when
his predictions came true. Just as the history of the world is driven
by starvation, war, rape, genocide, and so forth, the history of my
life is a historic paradigm that will only end in death and tragedy.

As I've said before, I never thought that Generational Dynamics was
going to make me rich and famous, but I did hope that I could make a
living from it. Generational Dynamics is an enormous advancement in
the analysis of history and the world, but instead of bringing me a
living, it's only brought me hatred and being shunned by people I've
known for years. It's been a personal disaster for me. At least
Jeremiah was lucky enough to have a book written about him. Perhaps
my death will allow Generational Dynamics to be more widely
recognized, and someone will write a book about it. I do not want to
be stoned to death. I have no hope for life except to die quickly and
painlessly.
I introduced a very simple thesis: Time is part of creation. The concept of time on planet earth is a physical relationship that the planets have with the sun. That concept will vary massively in different parts of the universe and additionally outside of the conventional understanding Einstein showed that it was possible to travel forwards and backwards in time. So time is quite localised but whoever created the universe also created time as we understand it. The current theory of creation is the big bang some 14 billion years ago, but that may be superseded one day. So if God created the universe then God created time. I won't continue with the argument I wrote recently. Straight forward.

You then raise some of the hardest theological questions about which there are thousands of books written and better equipped to provide an explanation than I. But I will briefly comment.
Firstly "free will" as Christians understand it needs to be defined and understood: It is the gift we have been given to choose goodness (as defined and consists of God's value system) versus the opposite (as defined but with a great deal of selfishness present) If God is Love, which is what Christians believe, then love is not genuine love unless full freedom of choice is given. It is universally present as defined. In generational dynamics we are looking at national and international trends, and mostly individuals are powerless to influence the direction. But their freedom of choice is that in their individual lives they can continue (or begin) to be loving people doing kindness and other things of love and charity. So the purpose of life becomes learning about love, and practising doing love, so that we are well equipped to live with God eternally in a world of love. This is the objective.
But there is no consistency; you won't find it anywhere except perhaps amongst really good people e.g. saints. That's humanity with its faults and frailties. And why God made a plan for our redemption. Witness for yourself: A Republican political supporter writes the most terrible things about his Democrat rivals, from which you would think that the Democrats are terrible people and unworthy of any citizenship let alone American, then the Republican proceeds to organise a wonderful act of charity amongst some poor people: So we have total lack of charity and love one day versus abundance of charity and love the next! There's an American expression "Go figure". Yes, indeed!

And as regards prophets: All prophets are disliked by the vast majority of citizens. Sometimes murdered, etc. Of course I am excluding soothsayers and jokers, etc, and I am talking about people who can genuinely read the signs of the times. People hate a prophet's ability to read the signs of the times especially when the prediction is at odds to their hoped for outcome, usually of a self serving or optimistic nature. Prophets are typically treated very badly - witness Jeremiah. The difference between you and Jeremiah might be that Jeremiah would have said that his gift of prophecy came from God. I had you down as a prophet about a dozen years ago.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... o-epic-lie

The root as Jung conveyed commenting on his buddy's eugenics programs that bore fruit from a poisoned Tree.

The Greeks have 4 kinds of love and I would love to see WHO totally burned to the ground and simply replaced.

As we discussed data fragility.

Eugenicist cults.

Jung's case resembles that of another charismatic intellectual, the philosopher Martin Heidegger, who was much more of a collaborator than Jung. These ambitious men were not naïve; they were overconfident about their ability to manipulate.

The only update is the human test subjects.

https://www.nytimes.com/1985/11/13/book ... ebate.html
Writing in his own defense, a highly unusual event, Mr. Solzhenitsyn said in letters to this reporter that he is dedicated to the study of history ''just as it was,'' which he feels is necessary ''in order not to repeat the horrors that humanity perpetrated on itself in the 20th century - all types of revolutionary and ethnic genocide.''

thread: vmat2

One might ask the question, Aren't American socialists in favor of their own country's survival?
To answer this question, we must turn to abnormal psychology.
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Higgenbotham wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:14 pm
I ended the week short 5 lots at an average 2643.

As noted earlier, I will not be adding until the market establishes a downtrend. That's not my usual style, but I'm guessing the next downtrend could be a crash and when all is said and done, it won't be the 50 or so points that matters, but being on as much as you can be on as it collapses.

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When this was posted, the ESM had closed the week at 2829. Later, I had predicted that the market might have a bad day Friday with follow through down tonight, with the implication that it would be near or lower than 2829.

That didn't happen. Therefore, according to what I posted above, "I will not be adding until the market establishes a downtrend," I dialed it back to 5 lots tonight.

During the time between the April 24 post and now I have been able, through bot smashing, to increase my break even from 2643 to 2670.

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While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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This is an interesting post from May 2. Within this post, there is a diagram that shows

3/24/2000
4/29/2020

with 4/29/2020 proposed as part of a sequence of very important tops.

On April 14, 2000, the Nasdaq crashed. If the stock market were to crash the same number of days from the proposed 4/29/2000 high, that would be May 20, 2020, within two days of my favored crash date of May 18, 2020 calculated using a completely different, but similar, method.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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I just sold (added) one lot at 2930.25, near the high of the night. The same rules apply: If I can average into an extra lot near the high of the day and the week, then I will hold this one and attempt to add more later. The game goes on and on.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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The below shows I scalped a couple points out to get the extra lot sold at 2930.25 averaged in higher. Since I don't intend to add a 7th lot yet, the pressure is on in a situation like this to get a high percentage accuracy. Usually I can take several high probability long or short trades like this per day to drive my average up. Another one is probably setting up now.

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While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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So are you conducting a Master Class on this stuff? Are you charging
tuition?
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