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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... g-joy.html

he will be hunted

She was beaten in prison if what I read was correct. It was in the forums months ago on a article from her daughter.
They may tear him apart limb from limb.
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Higgenbotham wrote:
John wrote:I don't know why you're quoting me. After today's events, there's
barely a bit of it that's still true.
I wasn't aware the President had vacated his residence in Kiev and has established himself in eastern Ukraine. What did the opposition do to force this change? Have you found any news that indicates that? The news I am reading says that he left but doesn't say why or what changed in the past 12 hours.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/world ... world&_r=0

The parliament turned against him, and some of the army has turned
against him. He wasn't liked very much in the east either, because of
massive corruption. It seems likely that he fled out of fear that he
would be either arrested or killed. According to a couple of reports,
he wanted to go the Moscow, but for some reason couldn't go. Perhaps
Putin was ready to have him arrested also.

I watched Yulia Tymoshenko give her speech to supporters after being
freed from jail. She's very charismatic. We haven't seen the last of
her. One Ukrainian characterized her: "She's good at leading
revolutions, but not so good at leading the country."
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http://www.euronews.com/tag/yulia-tymoshenko/

You do not beat up girls in prison. I see there people feel the same way and I think they may find there way in peace with hope in reality.

http://www.euronews.com/2014/02/22/ukra ... anukovych/
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The BBC says that Yanukovych was blocked from boarding a plane to Russia.
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http://advisorperspectives.com/commenta ... 022114.php

https://www.businesscycle.com/ecri-repo ... ll-indexes

The raw data in the spreadsheet of the WLI available from ECRI in the second link compares fairly well to the peaks in the stock market. It may be that stock prices are a component of the data or it may be for other reasons, as the data does not generally correlate that well with the stock market, only the peaks in the data do.

From the spreadsheet, the following peaks occurred in the WLI:

June 8, 2007 143.9, July 13, 2007 143.3, October 12, 2007 140.4
Series of lower highs while the stock market made a series of higher highs on June 4, 2007, July 19, 2007 and October 11, 2007

April 30, 2010 135.3
Stock market high on April 26, 2010

April 15, 2011 131.9
Stock market high on May 2, 2011

January 10, 2014 134.2
Stock market high on January 15, 2014

Current Reading 132.2

One obvious question would be: Did the WLI drop more than 2 points from its peak at any time prior to the stock market making a new high? The answer is yes. Before the May 2, 2011 high the WLI fell 2.5 points from its April 15, 2011 peak on April 29, 2011.

The WLI also peaked before the stock market sometimes in the 1960s and 1970s, but not normally. In 1968, the WLI peaked on November 29 while the stock market peaked on December 3. But more often than not, the WLI peaked after the stock market in the 1960s and 1970s. The stock market was leading the data in those decades most of the time, whereas now it is following most of the time. For example, the important 1973 peak in the stock market was on January 14, while the WLI peaked on February 23.

Anyway, the balance of the data is starting to suggest that the economy and stock market may be rolling over in a normal "business as usual" cycle. As one example, the S&P 600 small cap ETF, SLY, made its high on November 29 of last year.
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The estimated revenue growth rate for the S&P 500 for Q4 2013 is 1.1%. The S&P 500 is expected to earn revenues of $2,690.7B in Q4 2013 compared to $2,662.1B in Q4 2012.
Fourth quarter earnings are expected to grow 9.6% over Q4 2012.
http://www.trpropresearch.com/pdf/This_ ... nings.pdf/

My answer to this is simple. It didn't happen.

The Xers have taken over these companies and, guess what. You can't fudge sales; either sales happened or they didn't. But you can fudge earnings and that is what is going on. There is no way earnings can be grown at 9.6% annually on the back of 1.1% sales growth. Flat out not possible. Especially with companies this big.
There have been articles here and there talking about how "practical Gen X'ers" have been taking over top management positions at companies and cutting costs, "doing what they know how to do best".
They may be and they may have, but they are also doing what they do the very best, which is fudging the numbers.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Already working on it H as coming from the ashes. True you can only twist out so much as the resurgance of old misnomers reappear again, as well it looks better but it does the same thing. Modern is another rendition of excuse for internalized profit centers. Simple recap was bad note sausauge finally hurled from the bowels of the beast of complacity and mathematical jibberish to recover what some seen early to covet. Simply put if you are at the table and think who is the mark, its you already. Either way you slice it they already had been on the same side of the terminal server and blamed it on moving parts of the economy. Thats ok for bed time storys and the seventy percent of taxpayers who are still captivated in platos cave of dialectic walking in circles. We covered it enough to see what went to who and it will simply happen again. As for the current quick sand lets see what the effective tax rates does in a few quarters in the areanas. Business has customers and those left standing as customers called taxpayers will assert reality better than the current annialations we see ongoing.
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http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/PRS85006092

Annual productivity growth per BLS was 1.5% in 2012 and 0.6% in 2013.

So much for the Gen X cost cutting miracle. If the new Gen X managers were really doing anything, productivity growth would be north of 4%. And even with productivity growth that high, they still wouldn't get profit growth of 9.6% on 1.1% sales growth.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Jevons again H

It is very naive to expect that technical improvement in efficiency will lead "per se" to lower consumption of energy. The truth is that sustainability is not a technical issue, but a cultural one. The behavior of complex systems from a steady state perspective is unwise and unsafe and unmitigated folly for simply lacking a human knowledge base. ggs gd
How do you explain in a simple meeting the perception to percentages of actual social change and bias routes of imposed enclaves for control parameters.... Deception is intent for some and survival for others. History is so confused for the simple sake of itself. From another who sees also. Lib politicians know the party is over as more and more municipalities/companies go bankrupt and move offshore due to unrealistic attitudes. Enters the lib politicians push for 20 million newly legalized mexicans to take your jobs to replace your votes when you lose your pensions. Open your eyes. This is another moment going down as we speak. You are about to be discarded. The federal unfunded liabilities are catastrophic for future taxpayers and economic growth. For those who remember NAFTA and the agreement it was said it will fund growth and control the border issues and the left leaning inclinations of some trading partners and you can see how that went down as we are. Mexico has about 580,000 auto workers whose numbers have risen by 100,000 since 2008. They are paid about $16 a day. At usdebtclock.org, federal unfunded liabilities are estimated at near $127 trillion, which is roughly $1.1 million per taxpayer and nearly double 2012’s total world output. The thing you won't be able to say is you weren't told. Back in the day Jack would get my vote and Martin my Pastor. I find the Letter makes more sense with one simple Book. What should you do for your government and what character do they have left is the answer on the race to the bottum. It is simple math and nothing else with another election cycle averting basic issues.

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