Financial topics

[aedens]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-1 ... buy-stocks
Price targeting and printing so when the kick the can the dent is smaller they wish. Like many we also know the demographics will overwelm. Watch the watersheds close. Forty percent of the water comes from defined Eurasian regions there alone. Noted already was thursday commodity report since all markets going forward need baseline production to avert dire complications because we all know the why. I am under the impression as O is also that the effective macro political parasitic base will take increases for revenue streams and cost realities that they wish to cut are the moral edges that truly is the issue. To many attitudes on what people wish to define as work since some of us as mentioned have gone from the analog age to the complete digital age so those who started mid stream of the reality miss some key elements of capital formation and consequences. As we noted the effective technology base is supporting on the shift as we discussed the twenty percent supplying the eighty plus percent who have no clue how we even got here in the first place. For those who missed the avarice driven political kill switches of acount "corsined" you should follow the conclusion of the next logical step since I would posit some are. I have a fact of notes that when has already been in motion for many years and your late my Dr. Pangloss friend as was his character in Voltaire's Candide of 1759 on obtimism to effective change. Business is doing as we noted as the logical conclusion we noted also below and forumed. The Democrat's and hardly can you even call them that will tax half since half are ready set in motion as the mist and simply disappear to wait since why would you work for even less and just wait to see whats left since the soft in the head never seen what was going on anyway.
Discussion Context notes: http://generationaldynamics.com/forum/v ... 3630#p9206
Discussion Context notes: http://generationaldynamics.com/forum/v ... 3630#p9210
Analyst Manos Hatzidakis of Beta Securities in Athens said that the move made sense for the firm, which follows Greek dairy group FAGE this month in seeking a low-tax, low-volatility haven for its corporate base — in FAGE's case Luxembourg. "The Greek bourse is losing a very good company and the London Stock Exchange is gaining a very important group," said Hatzidakis. "It's very bad news for the Greek economy and bourse."

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/10/09 ... einarsson/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/fina ... rsson.html

[aedens]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20121012/DA1RMVLG0.html

http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war

http://www.france24.com/en/20121011-egy ... -jerusalem

Steel sharpens Steel - Soloman
Deadly errors arise from obsolete assumptions - Herbert

http://transitionvoice.com/2011/08/no-s ... try-orlov/

They eat there own as they say culture change.

The fiscal cliff could threaten funding for the Civil War Centennial Commission, a $49K study on the sex life of the South American Sand Flea, $120 million in paychecks to dead Federal employees, $17.8 million in foreign aid to China, $9 billion in private jet planes for government employees, $10 million to subtitle Sesame Street in Pashtu, and $48,000 for a Hawaii Chocolate Festival. Insanity has one path.

Economics neither approves nor disapproves of government measures restricting production and output. It merely considers it its duty to clarify the consequences of such measures. LVM 1949

Distinction between intelligent and unintelligent intervention, and even the need for the former to preserve a partly free market economy, Mises leaves his sectarian Utopia and joins the rest of us in choosing among imperfect but possible alternatives in the real world Schuller 1951

Who would you want deciding economic policy? Politicians who wait all year to address such problems as the fiscal cliff and then blabber about the data points like monkeys in a cage for months on end? Or economists who have studied the science of monetary policy their whole lives? Dr Paul Krugman 2012

[OLD1953]

RC, you are far better off doing what you can to fix a mess before it falls apart on you. Even if it does fall apart, you will be that much ahead. Truly, I worry FAR more about the FED's actions than I do budget deficits. Still, a number or two (to avoid the highly partisan sites so common now, I'll go to the source):

http://www.bea.gov/iTable/iTable.cfm?ReqID=9&step=1

Note that the bottom line is less negative than it was a couple years ago. However, it's not sustainable at that level, 1.3 trillion is a lot. If taxes were raised by 400 billion, cuts in the amount of 400 billion were made and we were borrowing about 400 billion a year, the picture would look much better. The FED would still be scaring me to death though. Just MHO, I think the FED has sold out to China. Their recent actions will benefit China far more than the USA.

Aedens, it's dead easy to make fun of line items in any budget. Peabody Coal Company has a budget item for "wildlife management" for example, and it's not small. What do they have to do with wildlife management? You'd be surprised, try a google on it.

That Republicans complain about supporting PBS seems odd to me, not because they like to gripe about "crazy spending" but because pretty much every bit of that federal PBS spend goes to Republican areas. Nothing is going to happen to Sesame Street if PBS funding is removed, but PBS in Montana, North and South Dakota and such places would lose the stations. I will guarantee you that the Republican Congressmen from those areas would very suddenly find religion in Big Bird if PBS federal funding in their home area was actually threatened and their name was tied to it - you try telling a bunch of young mothers that you got their kids TV cut off. Frankly, PBS would be better off if it was dropped, this dragging PBS through the mud every other year for no other reason than giving support to areas which vote for politicians who say they don't want it is insanity. But that won't happen, it's posturing and nothing more. I'm really tired of politicians posturing, it's about as meaningful as watching a couple of grouse in a mating dance, it's interesting the first couple of times, but after the novelty wears off it doesn't interest me any more. Ninety nine percent of those odd sounding federal funds were requested by the very office that's now got an office holder posturing. Why doesn't he simply request that his state not get funding of that sort? He or his predecessor made the request at some point, nobody marched in the National Guard and said "you're gonna watch Big Bird and like it".

[aedens]

I never google https://duckduckgo.com/?q=+Peabody+Coal+Company+
http://www.mdn.org/2007/STORIES/ROCKY.HTM
:--) If you want some sick stuff check the solution on the fly ash from the EPA
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=epa+fly+ash+spill
Last time I followed it over 300 k vanished if I remember correctly from the landfill
that we paid for and poof went the money in bankruptcy. When the topic resurfaced
they decided to file and so the paper chase goes on and on and on to find the money.
http://markcz.com/blog/oak-creek-coal-ash/
I understand the issues on coal and the EPA problems with the lucid reality we all face.
Still who ever funded sand flea study on our dime needs to go....
$17.8 million in foreign aid to China needs to be slapped at our shelters steps in town.
I refuse to be a coke or pepsi in politics since we are past unsustainable trajectory's
and child abuse of debt to the unborn is evil.
http://alabamacorruption.blogspot.com/2 ... ducts.html

Also big bird has no bearing on the actual issue. The salary's of PBS is over 300k per head on the staffing of that specific
programming. It is a money wage slush pit is the actual issue and PBS turned into a political arm which is fact.
http://townhall.com/columnists/brentboz ... pro-lifers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzaRZtm ... re=related fact a fact

[John]

It's not the site's fault, but about half my postings die before getting here. ExPat life can just suck. Networks here have constant faults.

You may be a victim of the "Magic Words" problem. See the following:

** The 'Magic Words' problem and attachment privileges
** http://generationaldynamics.com/forum/v ... 658#p16100

[Higgenbotham]

Just MHO, I think the FED has sold out to China. Their recent actions will benefit China far more than the USA.

That's my opinion too. I wrote a letter to my Congressman in 2010 and that was the main subject of the letter. That was the first time I'd ever written my Congressman. I found out later that he and the governor do understand and agree with the concept. The words treason and Bernanke were used by them in the same sentence as, in my opinion, they should be.

[aedens]

I would convey the culturally Disorientations ongoing. What I mean is recorded in the forums on internalized and arbitrary
use of power. The words will gravitate towards innovative use of power by them in this weilded macro counter weight.
I would be accurate today to mention parity and twice we have noted this granual effect on the macro
events of critical thresholds. Who is last to comply to internal protectionist markets is what should be asked
on that opportunity cost they are realizing to mutual benefit if alert. I would, and have asked what gradient aversions
have affected them the most. These are year to year variance cost of critical systems. As you can surmise
given the gradient aversion to proper captial management in the States some will entail capital to seek a willing
contract base of stability. Contracts to provide the best services are based on stability of currency and
the product base of peer. Long ago we have been patient to have four legs of the chair based on clarity
in zones. As we have discussed years may pass but once a bent of mind is seen Capital has responsibilitys.
Preparations take many years to assure the seen and unseen as we have discussed also. This last leg was not for
me for many reasons but no matter in the course of time. We are moving forward.

[OLD1953]

John, I don't think that's the issue. It's hard to tell though, because unreliable networks coupled with weird proxy and firewall blocks make a maze hard to decipher.

Aedens, the coal pollution issue reached an unsustainable level in the 80's, and it's gotten worse every year since. Clean coal is not a solution since it merely removes and reprocesses the pollutants into a concentrated package, and then what do you do with it? Nobody wants tons of sulfur contaminated with whatever they used to neutralize the mercury sulfides and other metallic residues. Not to mention that a lot of that will be organically based molecules, and dangerous to handle. Plus the radiation issue, which isn't very pretty either. Perhaps the most hidden fact of coal vs nuclear is that coal burning releases more radiation into the environment than running a nuclear plant to generate the same amount of electricity, and then burning the nuclear waste! Different elements are responsible for the radioactivity, so the hazards are different, but it is a fact. Nuclear is honestly the better solution for baseline power simply because the quantity of concentrated pollutants you have to handle is so much less, and you don't have to build a major chemical plant to acquire them, nuclear waste is concentrated by its very nature.

But what I was referring to was this: http://fw.ky.gov/kfwis/arcims/wma.asp?strid=229

The state leases that land, but Peabody has quite a few people involved in wildlife management, and very few people know that outside the company.

Well, as I said, PBS would be better off overall to simply decline anything from the government besides their channel allocation. Areas that can't support local PBS because of being rural and poor would just have to do without, but the politics surrounding PBS would go away. PBS is fully capable of supporting itself. That'll never happen, because the pols like the issue.

None of those tiny grants are approved by Congress. They are all approved by agencies out of the agency budget. There's a reason for some of them (often a legally mandated reason, such as "we have to do this as part of an EPA impact study requirement to build something") and for some of them it's the buddy system and the good old boy network supporting each other. It'd look silly to say a major company spent 10 million studying rare mice, but they have because of EPA requirements. Agencies don't usually pass out get out of jail free cards to each other - and when they do there is always a stink about government not playing by the rules everyone else has to.

(PS. Happened to run across this while looking up a couple things about PBS. Can't complain about the intent or the purpose, but migawd, that name! Half the problem with these programs is the stupid names! http://www.pbs.org/idealab/2012/10/fema ... ms278.html )

People always want it a dozen ways at the same time, they want cheap government with effective regulations that don't ever cost anything to implement and those regulations never get in the way of business or anything the individual wants to do, but they will make sure nobody ever has dirty food or disease from contamination while allowing farmers to sell uninspected and untreated milk or meat to anyone who wants it while ensuring it's all safe to eat raw. This ideal is what people expect from government, and no real government can ever possibly do that. And that's why it is so easy to tear down government in discussions, because that ideal is what everyone thinks government should be.

Higgs, it would be terribly easy to make a case for a conspiracy wherein a group of our politicians and CEO's made a deal with China to weaken the US in return for enormous payoffs and free labor. I doubt that happened, stupid shortsighted actions by the greedy is sufficient explanation, but that's no less damaging. You do have to wonder just where the hell they think they are going to live after it all comes crashing down on us. Europe seems to be the high end retirement destination for those who don't disappear to Costa Rica, but Europe is dependant on the USA for security, and without the US they'll go crazy, they haven't seriously thought about war or military preparations in decades. South America would fall to pieces. You cannot prop everything up on one support, and then destroy the support and expect everything to just go on as usual! I truly believe the CCP has already drawn up the plans on nationalizing all those western investments. Unless you want the middle class taxpayer to bail those companies out in a HUGE way, you'd better be writing your congressman right now, because I'll be surprised if this situation lasts to the end of the decade.

[aedens]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-pos ... depression

[OLD1953]

Can't disagree with her much, though she does tend to lump things together a bit for simplicity's sake, it would be preferable to me to separate out the different classes of debt (federal, state, corporate, household) for a better picture of who is doing what and how. I think the government deleveraging starts in December myself, we'll have to wait and see, but I do believe several things coming down the line will make some serious changes both in government spending and in taxes. And I do not think it's going to matter much who is President at that point, when certain things MUST happen, they happen.