Financial topics

[aedens]

I understand John's point and yes, no stone is unturned now for a long before also. For the sceptics we have Ontology that was revived in the early 20th century by practitioners of phenomenology and existentialism, notably by Edmund Husserl and his student Martin Heidegger

[Higgenbotham]

Also possible is they have hacked the brokerage web sites and know where the positions actually are. Or that info is being sold by unscrupulous employees at the brokerages.

[aedens]

Higg when the fiber went in privacy went out.

[Higgenbotham]

Higg when the fiber went in privacy went out.

That's why I say they don't really need to follow the patterns. All they need to know is what everyone else is actually doing, and I think to a large extent they do know and have more than one way to confirm it. They can know the pattern is there but to know whether people are actually following it and to what extent is better. Still, that doesn't change the ultimate facts of the situation and what must happen over time. Just makes it worse when it does ultimately happen.

[aedens]

I consider they have enough to keep the boat afloat. Not happy with Ed but when they tolerate the code broken
we have a larger issue H.

[Higgenbotham]

I consider they have enough to keep the boat afloat. Not happy with Ed but when they tolerate the code broken
we have a larger issue H.

When they run out of other people's money in the markets and otherwise is still unknown to everyone. There may not even be a "slowly at first" phase at this point.

[aedens]

I consider they have enough to keep the boat afloat. Not happy with Ed but when they tolerate the code broken
we have a larger issue H.

When they run out of other people's money in the markets and otherwise is still unknown to everyone. There may not even be a "slowly at first" phase at this point.

Westpoint clearly states the code. I never looked back after fiber H and was the right decision. Never look over your shoulder and no cares so we reap the whirlwind and late 1996 was the day for me. Many other factors also.

[Higgenbotham]

Westpoint clearly states the code.

They don't control the interest rate though.

This implications of the type of thing we are discussing aren't good at all. Despite the wide coverage of topics here, we haven't discussed this much or maybe at all. It seems apparent to me that when money and transactions are no longer private and can no longer be based on first principles, and when the temptation is too great to not make that so, then the financial system has nowhere to go but to implosion. The flow of capital is to those who know where the money is and how to grab it and they know little else and need to know little else until they run out of other people's money and the interest rate spikes out of control.

[aedens]

I watched TV news today for a few minutes. It was with self imposed anger later but the sun did not go down with me in it.
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[Higgenbotham]

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickc ... ow=&time=6

The Nikkei, the Japanese stock index, has been free falling tonight. The Nikkei has already lost the 15% or so that John and I have been saying can open the door to a crash. The second part of that is, after the 15% or so drop, there is usually a sharp rebound that lasts a few days. After the sharp rebound, which apparently was completed Wednesday in Tokyo, the crash can happen when the floor of the previous low gets taken out. It is almost there.

As the Nikkei has been melting down, it has been dragging our stock index futures down. Not a lot so far, but a generational crash in Tokyo would probably do it.

The 1290 day loss of faith cycle I proposed a few weeks back may be starting to take hold in Japan. This is from my notes: "Katrina (August 28, 2005) to the Lehman collapse of September 15, 2008 is 1114 calendar days. Fukushima plus 1114 calendar days is March 29, 2014. Look for a collapse in Japan to begin at that point." I think of this as more of a guideline or something to watch for than a prediction. After the Chernobyl accident, a similar loss of faith happened in the USSR but there was no comparable financial system to measure a disturbance. We only know that enough faith was lost that the Berlin Wall was torn down about 1290 days after the Chernobyl accident. So the second area I will be watching is, if the financial system in Japan begins to collapse this Spring, for some type of civil commotion or loss of faith in government to take hold in Japan in the second half of the year. Or perhaps they will try to head that off by going to war with China.