2022 election politics and the US Constitution

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2022 election politics and the US Constitution

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Saturday, November 12, 2022

This thread is for analysis of the 2022
midterm election politics - my opinions
and analysis and those of others.

this thread is different from the news
thread, which covers hard news and
trends, both domestically and
internationally. this thread is
domestid, for opinions and analysis.

people woke up on Wednesday morning to a
surprise. everyone had expected a red
wave, but instead there was a red
ripple. 98% of the elections were won by
incumbents, guaranteeing that things
will generally remain the same. the main
issue that surprised everyone was
abortion, which caused an overwhelming
number of unaligned independent
women to vote for the democrats, over
fear of losing abortion rights.

A similar issue, though with a smaller
effect, is the democracy
issue. Democrats from the top down
referred to trump voters as
fascists , election deniers , murderers
, and so forth. So-called historian
Michael beschloss said that a republican
victory wood mean the end of democracy
in the United states. Democrat leader
Jim clyburn took it even farther. He
says he's been studying history all his
life , and he sees America today as
being identical to Nazi Germany when
Hitler was in was taking power. He said
that a republican victory today would be
the same as Hitler's victory in the
1930s. These people are nut cases, but
in fact these attacks worked at least to
a small extent, by convincing a few
independent voters to vote Democrat, for
fear of a Nazi takeover.

other issues, such as inflation, the
economy, crime, voting rights, and
energy had some influence but as much as
abortion.

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Re: 2022 election politics and the US Constitution

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Saturday, November 12, 2022

Abortion

I saw some poll results a few days ago
that said that 2/3 of the country want
abortion to be legal, while a third of
the country want abortion to be
completely illegal.

abortion being legal means different
things to different people, but from
what I've seen, the consensus is that
most pro-choice people expect abortion
to be legal for the first 15 to 20 weeks
of pregnancy. the extreme position is
that abortion should be permitted at any
time up to the moment of birth.

when the supreme Court overturned roe
versus wade, it did not mean that
abortions would henceforth be illegal
everywhere. what it meant is that each
of the states has to make a decision
about the legality of abortions. you
need each state to decide, and this
means that there will be a referendum or
a legislative decision.

for the 2024 election, the Democrats are
planning a strategy to put an abortion
referendum on the ballot in every
state. in this way, they hope to repeat
their success by bringing women voters
out to vote in the referendum, and at
the same time they'll vote for the
Democrat candidate for president and
senator.

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So-called historian
Michael beschloss said that a republican
victory wood mean the end of democracy
in the United states. Democrat leader
Jim clyburn took it even farther. He
says he's been studying history all his
life , and he sees America today as
being identical to Nazi Germany when
Hitler was in was taking power.
John, I am a mediocre speller and an atrocious typist, so I realize these may be typos, but it happened twice.
If you deliberately failed to capitalize their last names, that is petty and beneath you (although I agree with your opinions).
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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Tom Mazanec wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:26 am
So-called historian
Michael beschloss said that a republican
victory wood mean the end of democracy
in the United states. Democrat leader
Jim clyburn took it even farther. He
says he's been studying history all his
life , and he sees America today as
being identical to Nazi Germany when
Hitler was in was taking power.
John, I am a mediocre speller and an atrocious typist, so I realize these may be typos, but it happened twice.
If you deliberately failed to capitalize their last names, that is petty and beneath you (although I agree with your opinions).
The format suggests John is still using the google speech to text app to dictate his posts. Recognizing proper nouns and names is a bit beyond its ability.

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Thanks NoMansLand. In that case I apologize.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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spottybrowncow wrote:
Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:03 pm
This is well worth reading ...

https://www.americanthinker.com/article ... house.html
Yes, good link and correct. It also brings up the idea that, given all Republicans have done to be abused by these laws (allowing it), are they in on it? Do they actually care? It doesn't' seem to me they do, especially when they constantly try to sabotage the guy who surprised everyone and won, Mr. Trump in 2016.

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Tom Mazanec wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:26 am
So-called historian
Michael beschloss said that a republican
victory wood mean the end of democracy
in the United states. Democrat leader
Jim clyburn took it even farther. He
says he's been studying history all his
life , and he sees America today as
being identical to Nazi Germany when
Hitler was in was taking power.
John, I am a mediocre speller and an atrocious typist, so I realize these may be typos, but it happened twice.
If you deliberately failed to capitalize their last names, that is
petty and beneath you (although I agree with your opinions).
Monday, November 14, 2022

Since I've become dysfunctional, editing
has become very difficult, and so I have
to depend on dictation software. So any
errors and typos should be blamed on the
Android dictation software. I'm the
victim here

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Do you think the Constitution is followed still?

Will it be (if yes) once the "crisis" starts in earnest?

When do you suppose the "singularity" will occur, given the crisis you state that we are quickly approaching?

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John I usually agree with you but on this election I simply can't. How is it that in Florida the Republicans did very well again. I will tell anyone who is curious. For at least the last 10 years the Republicans have been fixing the election system in Florida in order to end voting fraud. This has made it very difficult for the Democrats to cheat their way into winning elections in Florida. By the way the Republican establishment is in on all this election fraud, this is why they don't work to stop it. By the establishment I mean people like the Romnies, the Bushes and the Chanies. They are nothing more than controlled opposition traitors that use their influence in government to gain more power and wealth for their families. Anyone that doubts what I am saying ask yourself this question, every week we have two Powerball lottery drawings and two Mega millions drawing. In these drawings hundreds of millions of tickets are bought threw out every state in the union and the tickets are bought in every single county, city , and small town. Within hours of these multiple weekly drawings they know how many tickets were sold , where the tickets were sold, how many winning tickets were sold and how much was the amount won on each winning ticket. This happens multiple times every single week, yet they have 2 years to get ready for these elections and it takes them days and sometimes weeks to know who the winners are. Not only that but when they find new ballots and they have all these ballot drops they overwhelmingly help the Democrat candidates. Other people can live in lala land but I simply cannot.

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