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thinker
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The general that talked about how they needed to clean up America after the conquest with a bioweapon, said that they had to be quiet about it or the we would nuke them. The virus was created so that it would not be particular lethal for this reason plus it wasn't the time yet for the very lethal one. Also their goals are different right know for the short term, the truly lethal virus is a finishing move. Also notice the virus was deadly mainly to the very old or the very sick such as people with two or more co morbidities. this is actually good for China as letting it loose in their country would get rid of the people in their country that would be the most useless in a war. As far as protecting their people the general also said that they were willing to loose large numbers of people and that this was not a problem as the survivors would eventually repopulate China. One more thing being from a communist country I can tell you from first hand experience that communist governments don't care at all about their people.

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thinker wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:41 am
The general that talked about how they needed to clean up America after the conquest with a bioweapon, said that they had to be quiet about it or the we would nuke them. The virus was created so that it would not be particular lethal for this reason plus it wasn't the time yet for the very lethal one. Also their goals are different right know for the short term, the truly lethal virus is a finishing move. Also notice the virus was deadly mainly to the very old or the very sick such as people with two or more co morbidities. this is actually good for China as letting it loose in their country would get rid of the people in their country that would be the most useless in a war. As far as protecting their people the general also said that they were willing to loose large numbers of people and that this was not a problem as the survivors would eventually repopulate China. One more thing being from a communist country I can tell you from first hand experience that communist governments don't care at all about their people.
As is the case with most technology or biotechnology, people vastly overstate the capabilities of what XYZ corporation or country can do. For example, a very lethal virus can be harmful, but because of biological realities, can't spread far.

Bribing corrupt officials in other countries, and letting them rot with leftist and divisive thinking, is the best way by far to attack a country. That's the real story of the last 60 years, and the wu flu is just another feature of it that brings it out all the more.

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John wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:45 pm
** 04-Aug-2021 World View: The Covid release
Navigator wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:57 pm
> The reasons I believe the WuHu flu was accidentally released are
> the following:

> 1. It is not "highly lethal". It is much more effective than
> normal flu, but it is not the black plague. It takes out 1/1000,
> mostly elderly or those with pre-existing conditions that would
> probably preclude military service. This is not what I would want
> from a bioweapon.

> 2. The Chinese certainly did not have an antidote. Since the
> didn't have an antidote, they are just as vulnerable to the WuHu
> flu. This is NOT what you want from your bio weapon. In fact the
> Sino they are currently peddling has little to no
> effectiveness. Hundreds of thousands of their own people (probably
> millions) have died from this, and it has certainly had a
> detrimental effect on their own economy.

> 3. It was released in China, not in the USA or Taiwan or
> Japan. Even the Chinese could not cover this part up and this is
> where the Wuhan Wet Market lie came from (a pretty silly lie, as
> it is less than 1km from the real source, the Wuhan Virology
> Institute).
This seems about right, but let's start by pointing out what happened
starting in December 2019. Whether the release into Wuhan was
accidental or intentional, there was not nothing accidental about what
happened next. This was completely intentional. The CCP encouraged,
even demanded, travel between Wuhan and 180 different countries, while
forbidding travel between Wuhan and elsewhere in China.

The CCP compounded the crime by lying about the virus's
transmissibility, by getting their WHO puppet to confirm their lies,
and by sending people around the world to buy up all commercially
available PPE (gowns, masks, etc.) so that it would be unavailable to
medical personnel in other countries.

Politically, the CCP quickly took credit for being the first country
to beat the virus. Xi Jinping gave several speeches declaring this a
major war that China had won before any other country.

All of this was intentional and criminal.

So even though the evidence shows that the virus was released from the
lab accidentally, I can't help but think that the subsequent
intentional and criminal behavior might imply that the lab leak was
also intentional and criminal.

If it was intentional, then it was some kind of "proof of concept baby
test" that backfired badly. It's possible that they were testing out
a method to spread a virus worldwide. They did not want it to be
lethal, since it was just a test. I believe they expected to get
through this completely unscathed. I believe that they did not expect
to be blamed for the virus. This proves how stupid the CCP is.

The Republicans on the House Foreign Affairs committee did an
extensive investigation, and reached the following conclusion:
> "Based on the material collected and analyzed by the
> Committee Minority Staff, the preponderance of evidence suggests
> SARS-CoV-2 was accidentally released from a Wuhan Institute of
> Virology laboratory sometime prior to September 12, 2019."
> https://gop-foreignaffairs.house.gov/wp ... REPORT.pdf
The crucial point here is the date: prior to September 12, 2019. The
report gives several reasons for this date, including the following:
"The sudden removal of the WIV’s virus and sample database in the
middle of the night on September 12, 2019 and without explanation."

So the virus was beginning to spread in Wuhan by September 12, and the
CCP knew it.

The report provides a fascinating narrative of what happened after
that -- the super-spreader events, the deep coverup, and so forth.

In a sense it doesn't matter whether the virus escaped from the lab
accidentally, since everything that happened after September 12 was
intentional and criminal.

The Chinese have had several experiences with viruses in the past, and
they could have killed off the virus quickly, if they had wanted to.
Instead, the let it spread, and they launched a deep coverup,
punishing anyone who revealed what was going on.

So there was was a three month period between September and December
when the CCP knew about the virus and could have killed it off, but
instead let it spread through super-spreader events combined with a
deep coverup. This was followed by encouraging -- even demanding --
people in 180 countries to travel to and from Wuhan, thus spreading it
around the world, while forbidding travel between Wuhan and other
parts of China.

I want to particularly address one point that you made: "It was
released in China, not in the USA or Taiwan or Japan."

In fact, it had to be released in Wuhan, if the release was
intentional, and could not have been released in another country.

The spread of the virus required three months of super-spreader events
and coverups. This could only have been done in Wuhan.

Suppose that the virus had been somehow put into a fish market in San
Francisco. As soon as people started getting sick, there would be
investigators all over the place. They would kill off the virus
quickly and used contact tracing to keep it from spreading.
Furthermore, they would collect footage from street cameras and ask
the public for their photos of the fish market. They would identify
who planted the virus, and trace it back to the CCP.

So if the leak was intentional, it had to be in Wuhan.

The thing is: If China wanted to spread a virus around the world, the
steps they followed were exactly the way to do it. That's why the
circumstantial evidence is that the whole thing was intentional. We
know that everything AFTER September 12 was intentional, so it seems
likely that the action BEFORE September 12 was also intentional.

What was the motive? As I've said many times, the Chinese Communists
are the stupidest people on earth. Just look at the Great Leap
Forward or the Tiananmen Square massacre or the massive torture,
beating, and enslavement of millions of Uighurs. So the motive of the
lab leak would be equally stupid, whatever it is.
I fully agree with you that what happened after the "incident" of release was Criminal and Intentional. The CCP decided that China alone could not suffer the effects of the virus, and worked to ensure that the rest of the world got infected too.

They might have been able to significantly contain the spread, but I think it got too far before senior leadership was fully aware of what was going on.

One of the attributes of a CCP type leadership system is that NO ONE admits that anything is wrong until they absolutely have to. This way, what could have been solved by quick action, becomes a disaster as it spreads or as the effects become much much worse.

So the Wuhan leader probably knew what was going on, but tried to keep it under the radar as long as possible. But by then, it had gotten out, and the Wuhan lockdown was far too late. And then with the rest of China thus exposed CCP leadership decide the rest of the world needs to be exposed as well.

I understand your point of view regarding the "incident", but not everything is intentional/part of a master plot. Stuff like this is just going to happen under incompetent leadership / management.

The only per-incident intent, in my opinion, is doing bio-med research to develop things like this. That is also Criminal and Evil (and Stupid) to the extreme.

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:56 am

Bribing corrupt officials in other countries, and letting them rot with leftist and divisive thinking, is the best way by far to attack a country. That's the real story of the last 60 years, and the wu flu is just another feature of it that brings it out all the more.
Chinese money is behind a LOT more than people think. MANY movements in many countries are being funded by them. All with nefarious intent.

The amount of money they are putting into our political system has been covered up for decades. It is not insubstantial.

Sowing dissension and discord is a great way to weaken potential foes before (and after) actual shooting starts.

Christoph Becker

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By the way, I have an article on Chi Haotian's speech on my German blog since 2015 (https://www.freizahn.de/2015/08/chi-hao ... che-reden/ ).
However:
1. We do have a very efficient tool to deal with every virus and bio-weapon. Thus I never feared the corona virus. For a examples and explanations see the presentation "CDS vs COVID-19 THE ANTIDOTE Dr. Manuel Aparicio-Alonso. AMAZING 99.3% recovery rate! This will change the world!" (https://www.brighteon.com/9ab7e239-bf6b ... 8da7ea799f ) and the documentary "The Universal Antidote" on https://theuniversalantidote.com/ .
2. An other important reason for the "corona virus" panic and the "vaccinations" may be, that the western "Elites" are convinced that their countries are overpopulated while the resources are declining. Germany, for example, today has more than 5.8 times as much inhabitants per square km than in 1820, at the beginning of the industrial age and the use of fossil fuels, when the country was already overpopulated, as the poor state of the woods shows. Today this country has almost no more fossil fuels, while it is clear, that there will be no practical replacements for fossil fuels. Further more the government may know, that Germany and other European countries will become unable to buy fossil fuels in just a few years, because the fossil fuel producing countries use up more energy for them self and because China and India will need and demand more fossil energy while at the same time the efficiency of the energy production is declining.

3. Do you know https://www.theepochtimes.com/c-how-the ... -our-world
? This is a very good description of how China is bringing down the West. However, the main problem is the stupidity of the people and the "Elites" in the West.

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** 06-Aug-2021 World View: Wuhan Virus event
Navigator wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:01 pm
> I fully agree with you that what happened after the "incident" of
> release was Criminal and Intentional. The CCP decided that China
> alone could not suffer the effects of the virus, and worked to
> ensure that the rest of the world got infected too.

> They might have been able to significantly contain the spread, but
> I think it got too far before senior leadership was fully aware of
> what was going on.

> One of the attributes of a CCP type leadership system is that NO
> ONE admits that anything is wrong until they absolutely have to.
> This way, what could have been solved by quick action, becomes a
> disaster as it spreads or as the effects become much much worse.

> So the Wuhan leader probably knew what was going on, but tried to
> keep it under the radar as long as possible. But by then, it had
> gotten out, and the Wuhan lockdown was far too late. And then
> with the rest of China thus exposed CCP leadership decide the rest
> of the world needs to be exposed as well.

> I understand your point of view regarding the "incident", but not
> everything is intentional/part of a master plot. Stuff like this
> is just going to happen under incompetent leadership / management.

> The only per-incident intent, in my opinion, is doing bio-med
> research to develop things like this. That is also Criminal and
> Evil (and Stupid) to the extreme.
OK, I accept your description as an alternate explantion to mine, and
possibly even more likely than mine, that the CCP's criminal activity
didn't begin until late December or early January.

However, the world has been fooled and is being fooled by the Chinese
trolls too many times to simply give them the benefit of the doubt.
We have to start from the basis that everything they say is a lie,
since that's the case 90% of the time. I note that the September 12
action by the Wuhan Virology Lab of deleting their Virus Database was
a sufficiently public event that the CCP leadership should have known
about it, and would have taken control, and the CCP's criminal
activity would have begun on September 12.

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** 06-Aug-2021 World View: Sacrificing millions of Chinese
thinker wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:41 am
> The general that talked about how they needed to clean up America
> after the conquest with a bioweapon, said that they had to be
> quiet about it or the we would nuke them. The virus was created so
> that it would not be particular lethal for this reason plus it
> wasn't the time yet for the very lethal one. Also their goals are
> different right know for the short term, the truly lethal virus is
> a finishing move. Also notice the virus was deadly mainly to the
> very old or the very sick such as people with two or more co
> morbidities. this is actually good for China as letting it loose
> in their country would get rid of the people in their country that
> would be the most useless in a war. As far as protecting their
> people the general also said that they were willing to loose large
> numbers of people and that this was not a problem as the survivors
> would eventually repopulate China. One more thing being from a
> communist country I can tell you from first hand experience that
> communist governments don't care at all about their
> people.

I'm struggling to understand the grand motive behind the Wuhan
Virus Event, but an objective of killing off old people does not
ring true.

You're right that the CCP would happily sacrifice the lives of
millions of Chinese to stay in power. Why not? If you start with 1.4
billion people, and you sacrifice 50 million people, then you still
have 1.4 billion people. So Chinese people are just interchangeable
cogs in their wheel of progress.

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** 06-Aug-2021 World View: Nord Stream 2
Christoph Becker wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:30 pm
> By the way, I have an article on Chi Haotian's speech on my German
> blog since 2015
> (https://www.freizahn.de/2015/08/chi-hao ... che-reden/
> ).

> However:

> 1. We do have a very efficient tool to deal with every virus and
> bio-weapon. Thus I never feared the corona virus. For a examples
> and explanations see the presentation "CDS vs COVID-19 THE
> ANTIDOTE Dr. Manuel Aparicio-Alonso. AMAZING 99.3% recovery rate!
> This will change the world!"
> (https://www.brighteon.com/9ab7e239-bf6b ... 8da7ea799f )
> and the documentary "The Universal Antidote" on
> https://theuniversalantidote.com/ .

> 2. An other important reason for the "corona virus" panic and the
> "vaccinations" may be, that the western "Elites" are convinced
> that their countries are overpopulated while the resources are
> declining. Germany, for example, today has more than 5.8 times as
> much inhabitants per square km than in 1820, at the beginning of
> the industrial age and the use of fossil fuels, when the country
> was already overpopulated, as the poor state of the woods
> shows. Today this country has almost no more fossil fuels, while
> it is clear, that there will be no practical replacements for
> fossil fuels. Further more the government may know, that Germany
> and other European countries will become unable to buy fossil
> fuels in just a few years, because the fossil fuel producing
> countries use up more energy for them self and because China and
> India will need and demand more fossil energy while at the same
> time the efficiency of the energy production is declining.

> 3. Do you know
> https://www.theepochtimes.com/c-how-the ... -our-world
> ? This is a very good description of how China is bringing down
> the West. However, the main problem is the stupidity of the people
> and the "Elites" in the West.
So how do you feel about the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which has been
much in the news?

*** Why the World Worries About Russia’s Nord Stream 2 Pipeline
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... story.html

Your blog contains a second speech by Chi Haotian which seems to develop
his scenario further. Do you have an English translation of that speech
or, even better, a link to an English translation? Thanks.

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Christoph Becker wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:30 pm
By the way, I have an article on Chi Haotian's speech on my German blog since 2015 (https://www.freizahn.de/2015/08/chi-hao ... che-reden/ ).
However:
1. We do have a very efficient tool to deal with every virus and bio-weapon. Thus I never feared the corona virus. For a examples and explanations see the presentation "CDS vs COVID-19 THE ANTIDOTE Dr. Manuel Aparicio-Alonso. AMAZING 99.3% recovery rate! This will change the world!" (https://www.brighteon.com/9ab7e239-bf6b ... 8da7ea799f ) and the documentary "The Universal Antidote" on https://theuniversalantidote.com/ .
2. An other important reason for the "corona virus" panic and the "vaccinations" may be, that the western "Elites" are convinced that their countries are overpopulated while the resources are declining. Germany, for example, today has more than 5.8 times as much inhabitants per square km than in 1820, at the beginning of the industrial age and the use of fossil fuels, when the country was already overpopulated, as the poor state of the woods shows. Today this country has almost no more fossil fuels, while it is clear, that there will be no practical replacements for fossil fuels. Further more the government may know, that Germany and other European countries will become unable to buy fossil fuels in just a few years, because the fossil fuel producing countries use up more energy for them self and because China and India will need and demand more fossil energy while at the same time the efficiency of the energy production is declining.

3. Do you know https://www.theepochtimes.com/c-how-the ... -our-world
? This is a very good description of how China is bringing down the West. However, the main problem is the stupidity of the people and the "Elites" in the West.
The same people who "fear" "overpopulation" make policies that outright admit or encourage third world people to make their countries that much more populated and increase consumption overall, as well as debt and chaos. That quick thought experiment shows you "overpopulation" - and all of its related ideas (climate change, etc) has, and always will be, a lie.

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The Chinese are going to do what they are going to do, and yes we need to recognize it. But the likes of Fauci, Gates, and many of our "elected" leaders should be swinging from the gallows on the basis of this treason - their blatant assistance to the Chinese Communist Party and damage they have done to their supposed country, the USA.

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