Generational Dynamics World View News

[JDav]

To be clear, the country is not morally ready for a legal ban on abortion, and I would not support one... for now. It would have little impact on all the choices that men and women make BEFORE the decision to abort or not is even necessary. But let me ask YOU for clarification - if killing someone is against the law, and abortion is the killing of an unborn child, shouldn't abortion be against the law?

And, YOU don't dodge the question!

No. it's just a fetus.

If it's just a fetus, why the worry about abortion? Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy, which is defined by Wikipedia as living offspring gestating in the womb of its (or their) mother. A fetus is just a clump of cells, right. Why the fuss? Someone who has a fetus inside them doesn't need an abortion because there's nothing to abort.

[Guest]

And, YOU don't dodge the question!

No. it's just a fetus.

If it's just a fetus, why the worry about abortion? Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy, which is defined by Wikipedia as living offspring gestating in the womb of its (or their) mother. A fetus is just a clump of cells, right. Why the fuss? Someone who has a fetus inside them doesn't need an abortion because there's nothing to abort.

Think of it as selective surgery.

[JDav]

No. it's just a fetus.

If it's just a fetus, why the worry about abortion? Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy, which is defined by Wikipedia as living offspring gestating in the womb of its (or their) mother. A fetus is just a clump of cells, right. Why the fuss? Someone who has a fetus inside them doesn't need an abortion because there's nothing to abort.

Think of it as selective surgery.

Which once again illustrates my original statement- that this country is not worth fighting and dying for. Evil permeates it to the core.

[John]

** 05-May-2022 World View: Making abortion illegal

In the early 2000s, I did a little mini-analysis of the
data on the Alan Guttmacher Institute web site. (The particular
page I used is no longer available.)

Some countries, especially Catholic countries, made abortion
completely illegal. Other countries, including the United
States, made abortion partially or completely legal.

When I examined the data, comparing these countries to each other, I
found that abortion is, on the average, as common and safe in
countries where abortion is illegal as in countries where it's legal.

My conclusion at that time was that making abortion illegal had no
practical effect, beyond its symbolic effect.

[John]

** 05-May-2022 World View: Civilizational cycles

> John, as I've been contemplating my posts the last couple of days,
> something came to me - is it possible that there is a spiritual
> component to Generational Theory? For instance, many have posited
> that the Catholic Church has gone through several great ages
> (about every 500 years), culminating in a church-wide crisis. The
> last one being, of course, the Reformation. And about 500 years
> before that, the schism with the Orthodox Christian Churches.
> Here we are, 500 years later, and the Church is roiled by decades
> of homosexuality & pedophilia, and all other manner of corruptions
> & immoralities that plague our society as a whole. I think, in
> some sense, that She is also in a Generational Crisis Era. I'm
> curious as to your thoughts on this?

Generational Dynamics focuses on individual nations and societies, and
reaches conclusions from a core theory based on Forrester's System
Dynamics as applied to generational flows. I have not attempted to
analyze the kinds of supercycles that you're suggesting.

However, Arnold Toynbee has done exactly that, identifying the
major civilizations in history and their life cycles, and how
religion plays a part. The following is a good summary
of Toynbee's work:

-- A Study of History by Arnold J. Toynbee 1934–1961
https://www.encyclopedia.com/arts/cultu ... dy-history
(Encyclopedia.com)

[Guest]

If it's just a fetus, why the worry about abortion? Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy, which is defined by Wikipedia as living offspring gestating in the womb of its (or their) mother. A fetus is just a clump of cells, right. Why the fuss? Someone who has a fetus inside them doesn't need an abortion because there's nothing to abort.

Think of it as selective surgery.

Which once again illustrates my original statement- that this country is not worth fighting and dying for. Evil permeates it to the core.

When America is defeated, where will you and your family go? Or will you just die in a concentration camp like most others?

[spottybrowncow]

No. it's just a fetus.

In some jurisdictions if someone assaults or murders a pregnant woman and the fetus dies, they can be charged for the murder of the fetus as well.


A woman decides if a fetus lives or dies, and if she decides it lives, a man may be responsible for supporting the child that results.
Shouldn't the man have some say in whether the fetus is allowed to survive or not?

The logical inconsistencies in this area are insurmountable.

[Wolf359]

If a fetus isn't human, then how does Planned Parenthood make money by selling aborted baby parts?

[Guest]

If a fetus isn't human, then how does Planned Parenthood make money by selling aborted baby parts?

It's a woman's body. You can't harvest children from her against her will.

[Guest]

No. it's just a fetus.

In some jurisdictions if someone assaults or murders a pregnant woman and the fetus dies, they can be charged for the murder of the fetus as well.


A woman decides if a fetus lives or dies, and if she decides it lives, a man may be responsible for supporting the child that results.
Shouldn't the man have some say in whether the fetus is allowed to survive or not?

The logical inconsistencies in this area are insurmountable.

If your wife or daughter was left pregnant after she were raped, would you force her to have the baby?

Just asking...