** 1-Feb-2022 World View: Myths and Misinterpretations
Cool Breeze wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:46 pm
> I thought you knew his life, and studied Islam? The uswa hasana,
> or do you not know that? Or that a chapter of the Quran is the
> "spoils of war", that he had demonic visions (you know more than
> Sal Rushdie too, right?), that he had sex with girls less than 10
> years of age, that he beheaded personally a high number of the
> qurayza jews (their story, not mine). Shall I keep going, or are
> you walking into another realm that you pretend to know more than
> someone else about, only to get smacked down on request?
Unfortunately, I've boxed myself into the position where I have to
be the one to defend Islam and Mohammed. But given this list of myths
and misinterpretations, I really have no choice.
Here's a web page that you might enjoy:
*** False Charges Against Christ
https://www.christiancourier.com/articl ... nst-christ
That page shows that it's as easy to come up with a list of myths and
misinterpretations about Christ's life as you have done for Mohammed's
life.
One reason that I wrote my book on Iran is to educate people like you
who know nothing about Islam and the life of Mohammed. I'm sure you
can come up with new myths faster than I can educate you about them,
but I'll try here to respond to a couple of items in your list.
* The Qurayza Jews: This refers to the Battle of the Trench in 627,
during the middle of the massive ethnic crisis war between Mecca and
Medina. In 627, a huge army of 10,000 Arabs attacked the 3,000
Muslims in Medina. The Qurayza tribe had previously agreed with
Mohammed to remain neutral, but at the last moment, they betrayed the
Muslims and joined the attack on Mohammed and the Muslims. The
Muslims won through superior fighting (including building a trench).
I don't know if the Qurayzas were beheaded or killed in some other
way, but if they hadn't been killed, they would have killed the
Muslims.
It's worth pointing out that Mohammed liked Jews ("people of the
Book"). The Qurayza Jews were not killed because they were Jews,
which is what you claim, but because they had betrayed the Muslims and
joined with Arab tribes in attacking the Muslims in the middle of a
bloody war.
* Demonic Verses: Like many religious prophets, Mohammed had visions,
and many prophets say that there were sometimes fooled by Satan.
Early in his ministry, he had a vision about three goddesses, a vision
that was condemned by his peers. Later, he recanted the vision,
saying that he had been fooled by Satan. Here's a web page that
discusses the Satanic verses:
*** What were the original Satanic Verses, alluded to in the title of
*** Salman Rushdie's novel?
https://www.theguardian.com/notesandque ... 30,00.html
* Sex with young girls: This is the favorite of people like you who
know nothing about Islam or Mohammed, but grab onto something to
ridicule them. Mohammed was monogamously married to his first wife
Khadijah (555-619) for 25 years, but when she died in 619, he married
Aisha. I'll just quote the text from my book:
> "Now let's turn to another issue, that many people
> consider even more contentious. Apparently, after the death of
> Mohammed's first wife Khadijah, Mohammed married Aisha bint Abi
> Bakr (605-678 or 614-678) when she was six years old, but they did
> not consummate the marriage ("have sex") until she was nine years
> old, at which time she was considered to be old enough. Mohammed
> is accused of being a pedophile because of this.
> Aisha was the daughter of Abu Bakr (573-634), one of Mohammed's
> closest companions during his lifetime, and selected as the first
> Caliph following Mohammed's death. According to contemporary
> narratives, Mohammed married Aisha at the request of her father.
> Today, marriage for a girl under age 15 is illegal in most
> countries, including Muslim countries, and having sex with a 9
> year old girl is shocking to almost everyone. On the other hand,
> there are often news stories about very young girls being forced
> into marriage with an older man by their parents, especially if
> the parents do not have the money or means to provide for their
> daughters, and want protection for their daughters.
> But is it just a cultural issue? Defenders of Mohammed claim that
> it clearly is. There were no restrictions on marriage by young
> girls at Mohammed's time, and there weren't until recent times.
> There were probably many such marriages at the time, and they may
> well have been justified in the same way that polygamy is
> justified -- the best protection for a girl is to be married, and
> the best way to keep a society stable is to make sure that there
> are not many unattached girls and women walking around. Defenders
> of Mohammed say that today's cultural standards should not be
> applied to marriages that were common practice at the time of
> Mohammed.
> The government web site girlshealth.gov says that puberty in girls
> can begin as early as age 8. (It's usually two or three years
> later for boys.) That indicates that a girl at age 9 is
> biologically able to have sex, and even get pregnant.
> Let me try to explain this another way. As I'm writing this
> chapter, there are news stories of a BBC investigation in the town
> of Diepsloot, near Johannesburg, South Africa. According to the
> report, "This is one of the most dangerous places in Johannesburg.
> If you are found to be walking at night, you risk your life
> 100%. Rape is something that is very common, and it can often end
> in murder too." The 43 minute BBC documentary interviewed not
> only victims of rape, but also self-confessed rapists who were
> willing to admit their activities, including rape with total
> impunity.
> There's little doubt that such cultures exist in many places in
> the world today. Rape with impunity of girls and women is
> commonplace today wherever there is war or any kind of breakdown
> in civil control. It's very likely that such a culture also
> existed at Mohammed's time, in the chaos of war.
> So you can ask yourself whether it's plausible that a father like
> Abu Bakr would ask his close companion Mohammed, whose wife
> Khadijah had recently died, to marry his very young daughter
> Aisha, and the answer is that from the father's point of view,
> there are likely only two choices: let her walk around unattached
> and risk the almost certain probability of being raped, or marry a
> man who will love her and take care of her. And it's worth
> pointing out that a man who rapes a single young girl is
> committing a crime against someone with little standing, while a
> man raping a married young girl is committing a crime against the
> husband, a man who may very well murder the rapist.
> The question that is raised is whether a girl at that age is
> emotionally able to marry and have sex. That judgment is way
> beyond my skill set, but I take note of the fact that Mohammed
> always referred to Aisha as his favorite wife and, after he died
> in 632, Aisha had a long life where she was extremely powerful and
> respected, dying in 678. As far as I can tell, for Aisha at
> least, marriage at age 9 resulted in a good life for her.
> I've included this discussion of polygamy and pedophilia in this
> book because I've promised to deal with controversies within Islam
> in a respectful, balanced and non-ideological way. I hope readers
> will find this information useful."
John Xenakis is author of: "World View: Iran's Struggle for Supremacy
-- Tehran's Obsession to Redraw the Map of the Middle East"
(Generational Theory Book Series, Book 1) Paperback: 153 pages, over
100 source references, $7.00
http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... s.irbk.htm
https://www.amazon.com/World-View-Supre ... 732738610/
What's clear is that you know absolutely nothing about the history
of Islam and Mohammed. I'm sure you can come up with more myths
and misinterpretations faster than I can research and respond to them.
But that's the key -- do your own research, and figure out for
yourself why you're wrong. Reading my book would be a good start.
Cool Breeze wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:46 pm
> Time for some humility.
This is laughable. You have no self-awareness at all. You know
nothing about Islam, Mohammed, or Mormonism, and yet you have so
little humility that you think you can sit in judgment and condemn
those entire religions and all the people who follow them, and you
imagine that your judgments are credible, as if anyone cares what you
think.
In another thread, richard5za said he was curious to know why you're a
member of this forum. I'm curious about the same thing. Why do you
keep posting this stuff? You have no idea what you're talking about,
but you do it anyway.
John wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:56 pm
> You're standing in judgment of God's motives? Do you really
> believe that you understand God's purpose, or that you know more
> than God does? Or are you displaying willful ignorance?
Cool Breeze wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:48 pm
> It's embarrassing for you to ask or suggest such things. Only
> cranks take on these types of silly questions, and you've done
> this quite a few time on this topic.
The reason that you're embarrassed is because it's true. You know
that it's true because you're evading it by calling it a crank
question. You're completely full of crap on so many subjects, but
nothing astounds me more than seeing you sit in judgment on entire
religions that you know absolutely nothing about.
You should heed Isaiah 55:8-9:
> "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are
> your ways My ways," declares the LORD. "For as the heavens are
> higher than the earth, so My ways are higher than your ways and My
> thoughts than your thoughts."
Instead of making up false accusations and myths about Mohammed, you
should show some humility and ask yourself why God sent Mohammed to
the Arabs to create a new religion with billions of adherents today.
Isaiah says that you have no idea what God's purpose is, and you
should heed that warning, instead of sitting in judgment on God and
his motives.