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Cool Breeze
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Re: Societal collapse

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FullMoon wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 2:23 pm
guest wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 12:26 pm
Cool Breeze wrote:
Sun May 14, 2023 7:56 pm


For all this talk about "right wing extremists" (notice how there aren't left wing extremists, though they are far more extreme, the other people are just normal dudes), not one of these idiot "leaders" has gotten knocked off. Obviously, they aren't that extreme.
Biden's 'right-wing' babble is scary. They are laying the ground work for mass murder of anyone who opposes them.
They're stoking fear to hold power in the face of blatant criminality and corruption. They're backers are mindless followers unable to comprehend what's going on. Our politics is so polarized that it's starting to appear dangerous personally but the real carnage should be from the looming World War. Our political dysfunction puts us in a weaker position than otherwise. The Leftist camp is accused of actively working to undermine our national integrity and identity.
This.

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Re: Societal collapse

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 4:30 pm
FullMoon wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 2:23 pm
guest wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 12:26 pm


Biden's 'right-wing' babble is scary. They are laying the ground work for mass murder of anyone who opposes them.
They're stoking fear to hold power in the face of blatant criminality and corruption. They're backers are mindless followers unable to comprehend what's going on. Our politics is so polarized that it's starting to appear dangerous personally but the real carnage should be from the looming World War. Our political dysfunction puts us in a weaker position than otherwise. The Leftist camp is accused of actively working to undermine our national integrity and identity.
This.
America, the greatest country to ever exist, is being rapidly destroyed by a wild eyed pack of low IQ shit buckets. This is your answer. This.

And yes, it's too late to stop it.

Escape if you can.

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Re: Societal collapse

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Guest XX wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 9:00 am
Cool Breeze wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 4:30 pm
FullMoon wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 2:23 pm

They're stoking fear to hold power in the face of blatant criminality and corruption. They're backers are mindless followers unable to comprehend what's going on. Our politics is so polarized that it's starting to appear dangerous personally but the real carnage should be from the looming World War. Our political dysfunction puts us in a weaker position than otherwise. The Leftist camp is accused of actively working to undermine our national integrity and identity.
This.
America, the greatest country to ever exist, is being rapidly destroyed by a wild eyed pack of low IQ shit buckets. This is your answer. This.

And yes, it's too late to stop it.

Escape if you can.
It's part of the plan. Nowhere to go, really though, XX

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Re: Societal collapse

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Guest XX wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 9:00 am
Cool Breeze wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 4:30 pm
FullMoon wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 2:23 pm

They're stoking fear to hold power in the face of blatant criminality and corruption. They're backers are mindless followers unable to comprehend what's going on. Our politics is so polarized that it's starting to appear dangerous personally but the real carnage should be from the looming World War. Our political dysfunction puts us in a weaker position than otherwise. The Leftist camp is accused of actively working to undermine our national integrity and identity.
This.
America, the greatest country to ever exist, is being rapidly destroyed by a wild eyed pack of low IQ shit buckets. This is your answer. This.

And yes, it's too late to stop it.

Escape if you can.
It just feels like it's being destroyed because we had grown accustomed to feeling an invulnerability from unchallenged supremacy. But we've got to prove ourselves and we see our weak points. Just remember, most everywhere has weak points and America still ranks high. We just have to deal with this, it's a crisis and it won't be easy. Less anxiety if you think of it as a force of nature or something preordained.
The ahit bags are just a symptom of a long term degeneration. It's been getting crazier at faster rate some think.
Escape is a good idea.

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Re: Societal collapse

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FullMoon wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 1:28 pm
Guest XX wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 9:00 am
Cool Breeze wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 4:30 pm


This.
America, the greatest country to ever exist, is being rapidly destroyed by a wild eyed pack of low IQ shit buckets. This is your answer. This.

And yes, it's too late to stop it.

Escape if you can.
It just feels like it's being destroyed because we had grown accustomed to feeling an invulnerability from unchallenged supremacy. But we've got to prove ourselves and we see our weak points. Just remember, most everywhere has weak points and America still ranks high. We just have to deal with this, it's a crisis and it won't be easy. Less anxiety if you think of it as a force of nature or something preordained.
The ahit bags are just a symptom of a long term degeneration. It's been getting crazier at faster rate some think.
Escape is a good idea.
I just don't know what I would do without all of the utterly stupid and constantly depressing beatings and shootings, stabbings, raping, kidnappings, assaults, baseball bat beatings,subway murders, mass shootings, bodies in dumpsters, trash cans, barrels, suitcases, plastic bags, people chopping up kids, neighbors shooting each other, home invasions, illegal immigrants, Mexican gangs, car jackings, smash and grab robberies, gas station shootings robberies and ransacking, high speed chases, Crips, Bloods, the list is bigger than the new book of pronouns... But hey thanks for letting me know.

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Re: Societal collapse

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Guest wrote:
Sun May 21, 2023 12:53 pm
I just don't know what I would do without all of the utterly stupid and constantly depressing beatings and shootings, stabbings, raping, kidnappings, assaults, baseball bat beatings,subway murders, mass shootings, bodies in dumpsters, trash cans, barrels, suitcases, plastic bags, people chopping up kids, neighbors shooting each other, home invasions, illegal immigrants, Mexican gangs, car jackings, smash and grab robberies, gas station shootings robberies and ransacking, high speed chases, Crips, Bloods, the list is bigger than the new book of pronouns... But hey thanks for letting me know.
I live in a large-ish metro area (therefore a LITTLE blue) in a very red state, sand I must say I don't see all those things around me. But I don't think the conservative news media makes up those things. If they do, they've got an incredible film crew, able to fake crowds at the border, unprovoked street assaults, etc. Rather than stop watching Fox news and other conservative outlets, I watch a balance of sources, but not in equal proportion, I stop as soon as I can discern what their bias is.

What I DO see around me, however, is (a relatively small number of) people who have adopted the woke mindset. Most alarmingly, some of them I know have high IQ's, but they have been to various degrees captured by the mass psychosis gripping the nation. I have resisted the urge to confront them, because I have to work with them, but I know from observation that they are not nearly as tolerant or open-minded as I am.

I often wonder what leads outwardly intelligent people to believe pure BS, when it is so clearly in conflict with reality and common sense. It would appear to be a fascinating area for psychologists to study - I haven't really researched that area, maybe they are studying it, or maybe it's too difficult / taboo. At any rate, at this point I have no reason to think there's any correlation between between susceptibility to mass psychosis and IQ, and I find that to be really alarming.

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At any rate, at this point I have no reason to think there's any correlation between between susceptibility to mass psychosis and IQ, and I find that to be really alarming.
And you find this surprising, spottybrowncow?
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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Zimbabwe is the most miserable country in the world according to an annual “misery index" that judges nations on mainly economic conditions.
Next stop, Zim!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... countries/

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spottybrowncow wrote:
Sun May 21, 2023 7:44 pm
Guest wrote:
Sun May 21, 2023 12:53 pm
I just don't know what I would do without all of the utterly stupid and constantly depressing beatings and shootings, stabbings, raping, kidnappings, assaults, baseball bat beatings,subway murders, mass shootings, bodies in dumpsters, trash cans, barrels, suitcases, plastic bags, people chopping up kids, neighbors shooting each other, home invasions, illegal immigrants, Mexican gangs, car jackings, smash and grab robberies, gas station shootings robberies and ransacking, high speed chases, Crips, Bloods, the list is bigger than the new book of pronouns... But hey thanks for letting me know.
I live in a large-ish metro area (therefore a LITTLE blue) in a very red state, sand I must say I don't see all those things around me. But I don't think the conservative news media makes up those things. If they do, they've got an incredible film crew, able to fake crowds at the border, unprovoked street assaults, etc. Rather than stop watching Fox news and other conservative outlets, I watch a balance of sources, but not in equal proportion, I stop as soon as I can discern what their bias is.

What I DO see around me, however, is (a relatively small number of) people who have adopted the woke mindset. Most alarmingly, some of them I know have high IQ's, but they have been to various degrees captured by the mass psychosis gripping the nation. I have resisted the urge to confront them, because I have to work with them, but I know from observation that they are not nearly as tolerant or open-minded as I am.

I often wonder what leads outwardly intelligent people to believe pure BS, when it is so clearly in conflict with reality and common sense. It would appear to be a fascinating area for psychologists to study - I haven't really researched that area, maybe they are studying it, or maybe it's too difficult / taboo. At any rate, at this point I have no reason to think there's any correlation between between susceptibility to mass psychosis and IQ, and I find that to be really alarming.
Based on my experience and research, it's only at IQs of about 150+ (or a frequency of less than 1 in 1000) that there is a marked bias away from woke, liberal thinking.
Higgenbotham wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:25 pm
Higgenbotham wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:36 pm
Hayek told them, but they refuse to listen.
If man is not to do more harm than good in his efforts to improve the social order, he will have to learn that in this, as in all other fields where essential complexity of an organized kind prevails, he cannot acquire the full knowledge which would make mastery of the events possible. He will therefore have to use what knowledge he can achieve, not to shape the results as the craftsman shapes his handiwork, but rather to cultivate a growth by providing the appropriate environment, in the manner in which the gardener does this for his plants. There is danger in the exuberant feeling of ever-growing power which the advance of the physical sciences has engendered and which tempts man to try, "dizzy with success," to use a characteristic phrase of early communism, to subject not only our natural but also our human environment to the control of a human will. The recognition of the insuperable limits to his knowledge ought indeed to teach the student of society a lesson of humility which should guard him against becoming an accomplice in men's fatal striving to control society — a striving which makes him not only a tyrant over his fellows, but which may well make him the destroyer of a civilization which no brain has designed but which has grown from the free efforts of millions of individuals.
Jerome Powell: (49:02)
After the financial crisis, we started a new whole division of the Fed to focus on financial stability. We look at it from every perspective. The FOMC gets briefed on a quarterly basis. At the board here, we talk about it more or less on an ongoing basis. So, it is something we monitor, but I don’t know that the connection between asset purchases and financial stability is a particularly tight one, but again we won’t be just assuming that; we’ll be checking carefully as we go. And by the way, the kinds of tools that we would use to address those sorts of things are not really monetary policy; it would be more tools that strengthen the financial system.
The first paragraph is 99.7th percentile thinking.

The second paragraph is 97th percentile thinking.

It seems to be a constant in human affairs that The 97th Percentile will refuse to listen to those who know better than them because The 97th Percentile thinks they are the smartest guys in the room.
I was surprised to find a link with extensive data which supports this view.

It's from an organization called the Triple Nine Society, which only admits people with IQs proven to be above the 99.9th percentile, and they did an extensive survey of political views among members. It turned out that their members support neither a Democrat nor Republican agenda, but rather lean strongly Libertarian toward very limited government. For example, 94% are in favor of gun ownership at the same time 60% are in favor of minimal restrictions on prostitution.

http://milesresearch.com/tns/summary.htm

So while it may be true that The 97th Percentile tends to support socialism and consider themselves qualified to tell the rest of society what is good for them, those rare individuals with IQs more than one standard deviation above The 97th Percentile do not support those views.

It should be noted, though, that about 150,000 adults in the US would be qualified to join this organization, but it only has about 350 members, so there could be some bias in the results due to the type of person among the high IQ population who would tend to join such an organization.

The majority of survey participants support the status quo for the Federal Reserve, but the survey was done in the early 2000s (October 2000) before the Fed went off the rails or, alternatively, didn't have an extensive history of having gone off the rails. Greenspan was a bit off the rails at the time.
65 __ Federal Reserve Board: Rate on a scale of 1-5
(1= Abolish the Fed, 3= Status quo, 5= Maximum control of interest rates, the money supply and other economic parameters)

Federal Reserve Board
1= 12%
2= 19%
3= 63%
4= 5%
5= 0%
Often the people as described below are intelligent. This person is probably in the 130 area. He has a PhD in Chemistry from Penn.
Higgenbotham wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:37 pm
Higgenbotham wrote:
Sun Dec 25, 2022 6:28 pm
I said there are two opposite modes of living in the United States. The first is an expectation that you will spend your entire life in one area with other people who will spend their entire lives in that area. The second is an expectation that you will go to high school in one place, college in another place, then career in several places (no longer at one company) with sole focus on that. Everything else is something in between. The first mode engenders real connections while the second mode engenders transactional relationships. An example of a transactional relationship would be something like, "I have a buddy who is also 420 friendly. He finds me really good dope cheap and I fix all his computers." The best example of a transactional encounter I can think of is prostitution. Also, in a big city, encounters are briefer. That's not to say there isn't some overlap.

I told her in the second mode of living, people are taught from an early age to look to the next step in their progression and to primarily engage in transactional relationships as a means to get to that next step. A high school kid might be told to be friendly to the teachers because they will be writing college recommendations or whatever. They would not be encouraged to be friendly to teachers they genuinely like and not be friendly to teachers they genuinely do not like. And so on when the kid gets to college. I should add as an aside that girls are better at that than boys. I told her that while coping with the stress of getting from step to step, people who find themselves in the same boat will bond somewhat. But they know those bonds are likely temporary and will be broken when they get to the next step unless there is a practical reason to keep them. I also told her that people who have lived in transactional relationship mode for several generations do not even know how to live differently and can't. Many do not understand what a real connection is.

I would also add that high tech is making people more and more into transactions versus customers. Google is the best example I can think of.

I now want to describe what this second mode of living typically leads to by specific example. I have known this person since we were 5 years old.

His second mode of living profile is as follows:

1. Grew up in a suburb of a city. Father was a PhD research scientist at a corporation.
2. Moved to another city in the same state to go to college.
3. Moved to another state to go to graduate school and got a PhD in chemistry.
4. Moved to yet another state to work for a drug company (Boston suburb).
5. Moved to yet another state to work for a different drug company.
6. Moved to yet another state to work for the same drug company (Chicago suburb).

From his twitter account (he is on linkedin too):
Dale is an awesome scientist and a better human being!
#scienceRocks#EndtheNeglect
This refers to a coworker who joined a committee at the Gates Foundation. This tweet is what I call a transaction.

Also from his twitter account:
Oct 7, 2020
Kamala with the uppercut…
Nov 27, 2020
#DiaperDon needs a nap.
...a few dozen similar tweets and retweets...followed by the latest just 12 hours ago...
12h
Indeed

Alteño🌵
@zwiitt
13h
Mike Pence has a greater chance of getting a blowjob than winning the presidency
His tweets also indicate support for Colin Kaepernick, BLM, etc.

My theory is that people who have adopted this second mode of living and engage in transactional relationships, particularly those who have done so for several generations, still have an innate need for real human connection and, in my opinion, are attempting to fill that void by voicing support for liberal causes and political candidates which ultimately get paid for out of funds that the government can no longer afford to provide. By doing so, they are continuing to engage in transactional relationships, which is all they know how to do.

That void would be better filled by finding individuals who are suffering and helping them directly (real human connection).

This will all end when the welfare state collapses.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

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Re: Societal collapse

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spottybrowncow wrote:
Sun May 21, 2023 7:44 pm
I often wonder what leads outwardly intelligent people to believe pure BS, when it is so clearly in conflict with reality and common sense. It would appear to be a fascinating area for psychologists to study - I haven't really researched that area, maybe they are studying it, or maybe it's too difficult / taboo. At any rate, at this point I have no reason to think there's any correlation between between susceptibility to mass psychosis and IQ, and I find that to be really alarming.
You know the answer but you're getting swept away with materialist mindset, which is all around you, so it's easy to forget. It's the same reason most have forgotten God, which is the answer.

Most people don't want to suffer, or have courage to fight against the status quo (other people, friends, workers, bosses) to stand for principle. If you have a comfort bias and don't understand that the other things I've mentioned are the most important in life (principle, virtue, suffering, courage) - your IQ will be rendered useless and you'll make something up in your mind to assuage suffering or avoid it entirely.

This is why being a Christian is so important. And it also explains why "smart" people on this board haven't understood much of geopolitics, and got fooled by nonsense like covid and its injection scam.

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