Nuclear War

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thomasglee
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Re: Nuclear War

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Vaccines have been slowly introduced into society as "required" whereas taking other meds is optional.

John wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:40 pm
** 02-Aug-2021 World View: Bioweapons
tim wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:20 pm
> We know that almost all of our pharmaceutical components come from
> China. Many medications could not be made if trade with China was
> disrupted.
OK, but this has nothing to do with vaccines. If China is going
to send a bioweapon to America through pharmaceuticals, it could use
any of the medications that come from China.

However, there's something even simpler than that. Just incorporate
the bioweapon into fentynal. That even has the advantage that it
bypasses the standard trade channels, and will continue even in a
state of war. Half the country will be dead in no time, and the other
half will be infected with the bioweapon.
Psalm 34:4 - “I sought the Lord, and he answered me and delivered me from all my fears.”

Trevor
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Just read the transcript of that speech. That's a 21st century Generalplan Ost. If anything, Hitler and Tojo sound sane by comparison. When it comes to Covid, I'm absolutely certain China is lying about the number of cases they've had. Covid's burning through India, Indonesia, Malaysia, everyone in Asia, except for them. I doubt it.

Something to consider about Japan's biological program in WWII: it ended up killing many of their own soldiers, sickening tens of thousands more, so it didn't provide much benefit.

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https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/08/the ... ist-party/

"COVID-19 is ravaging China.
The Delta variant is spreading across the country fast, and Beijing has no answer to the new strain other than draconian, totalitarian brute-force measures—and blaming foreigners.
Millions of Chinese residents are now in various forms of lockdown. The recent infections constitute the most widespread coronavirus outbreak since the disease first hit China, sometime in late 2019.
The new flare-up, which quickly slipped beyond the control of the authorities, is undermining core Communist Party propaganda narratives."

Do you think this accelerates, or delays CCP actions?

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** 03-Aug-2021 World View: Gordon Chang: The end of the CCP?
tankbuilder wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:17 am
> https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/08/the ... ist-party/

> "COVID-19 is ravaging China.

> The Delta variant is spreading across the country fast, and
> Beijing has no answer to the new strain other than draconian,
> totalitarian brute-force measures—and blaming foreigners.

> Millions of Chinese residents are now in various forms of
> lockdown. The recent infections constitute the most widespread
> coronavirus outbreak since the disease first hit China, sometime
> in late 2019.

> The new flare-up, which quickly slipped beyond the control of the
> authorities, is undermining core Communist Party propaganda
> narratives."

> Do you think this accelerates, or delays CCP actions?
I've been wondering the same thing.

Gordon Chang suggests that the uncontrolled spread of covid will
bring about the end of the Chinese Communist Party.

I can guarantee with almost certainty that this will NOT happen. The
CCP will do ANYTHING to preserve the CCP and their power. This is not
negotiable.

Instead, they will panic and do something really stupid. The CCP will
attempt to unify the nation by starting a war. They might launch a
war with Taiwan, or they might launch a war with Japan, or with India,
or they might launch their long-planned attack to conquer America "in
one blow."

That's the way the world works.

P.S.: And Gordon Chang is well aware of this.

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thomasglee wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:23 am
You're failing to recognize your own logic. Nothing the Chinese do will be logical. Expect their moves to be illogical and delusional, as you have said yourself. We cannot expect them to be irrational on the one hand and logical on the other. They're hellbent on overtaking the west at any cost, and I believe they genuinely believe (the leadership, not the people) that they will not be affected by their machinations. And as far as their own people go... look back to the Korean war and how they sent wave after wave of young men and even boys rushing into the front lines against the Americans. They don't care about their people; they only care about power.

My view of the world over the next decade is very bleak. I fully expect millions (perhaps billions) will die. Not so much from the viruses as from the "cure" for their prevention. I DO not trust the vaccines, and what better way to kill people than through a vaccine meant to save. The only people that will suffer from it are those that get it voluntarily. Take your thought about what they may have tried with the virus and imagine them doing that with a vaccine. Perhaps the virus was the impetus they used to push the vaccines, the real killers.
So Thomas's take is that bio treachery - viruses but more importantly the response to them - will be the real killer. Not war.

Interesting. I like this board more and more, especially when we get more thoughts outside of the box.

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John wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:47 am
** 03-Aug-2021 World View: Gordon Chang: The end of the CCP?
tankbuilder wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:17 am
> https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/08/the ... ist-party/

> "COVID-19 is ravaging China.

> The Delta variant is spreading across the country fast, and
> Beijing has no answer to the new strain other than draconian,
> totalitarian brute-force measures—and blaming foreigners.

> Millions of Chinese residents are now in various forms of
> lockdown. The recent infections constitute the most widespread
> coronavirus outbreak since the disease first hit China, sometime
> in late 2019.

> The new flare-up, which quickly slipped beyond the control of the
> authorities, is undermining core Communist Party propaganda
> narratives."

> Do you think this accelerates, or delays CCP actions?
I've been wondering the same thing.

Gordon Chang suggests that the uncontrolled spread of covid will
bring about the end of the Chinese Communist Party.

I can guarantee with almost certainty that this will NOT happen. The
CCP will do ANYTHING to preserve the CCP and their power. This is not
negotiable.

Instead, they will panic and do something really stupid. The CCP will
attempt to unify the nation by starting a war. They might launch a
war with Taiwan, or they might launch a war with Japan, or with India,
or they might launch their long-planned attack to conquer America "in
one blow."

That's the way the world works.

P.S.: And Gordon Chang is well aware of this.
The problem is that the sarscov2 virus just isn't lethal. The delta variant much less so. You have to get your assumptions correct to make an accurate prediction. The premise here sets up for a totally stupid speculation, which is already wrong if you know what you are talking about.

tankbuilder
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It is not the lethality of the virus that matters, but the response of the CCP to the virus and what they inflict on the population.

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** 03-Aug-2021 World View: Trump vs Covid
pbrower2a wrote: > Nobody could have reasonably expected how badly the USA could have
> mangled a response to COVID-19. You. Xenakis, know what I think of
> Donald Trump, but his handling of COVID-19 is criminal, homicidal
> negligence on a scale rare in world history. Yes, I believe that
> former President Trump has committed indictable offenses involving
> COVID-19 alone.
I really don't have a clue what you're talking about. This appears to
be the opposite of the truth, so I assume it's just more of your
trollery.

Trump caught on right away that China was intentionally spreading the
virus around the world while protecting China, so he shut down travel
from China and Europe. Trump claims that by doing this he saved
hundreds of thousands of lives, and that's credible to me. The
Chinese were furious. The Democrats were furious. Nancy Pelosi was
dancing in the streets in Chinatown, calling Trump xenophobic and
hateful and racist and White Supremacist. But like so many things,
Trump turned out to be right about this, and the Democrats were dead
wrong.

And of course Operation Warp Speed produced three vaccines in nine
months, a medical miracle, where the Democrats were ridiculing and
mocking him, saying there wouldn't be vaccines for years. Once again,
Trump was right and the Democrats were dead wrong.

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Trump will ultimately be recorded as one of the greatest American presidents, irrespective of whether or not he gets another term. Many will cry and gnash their teeth, but this is the truth.

Cool Breeze
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tankbuilder wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:59 pm
It is not the lethality of the virus that matters, but the response of the CCP to the virus and what they inflict on the population.
My point is that sarscov2 isn't "burning" through any population. At all. The average age of a death with covid is HIGHER than the average age of death in every country. It's largely a non issue, if you are objective about it. It is certainly not a pandemic.

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