jdcpapa wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:46 am
"Man is a spirit with a body. Not a body with a spirit." ~The Master Key
Romans chapter 8 The flesh and the spirit 1-13: 9-but you are not in the flesh on the contrary you are in the spirit.
That might be some sort of answer to someone who believes the Bible is a source of absolute truth, someone with a religious world view of the right flavor. I does little to nothing for me.
In looking at conflicting worldviews, you can see an individual’s needs in the way he looks at the world. It is part of why you see a refusal to change worldviews, and so much rejection of a different perspective.
If you have a scientific worldview, you might assume and need causality. You learn from the world by observing the world.
If you have a religious worldview, you might need, want, or assume an omnipotent, all knowing and benevolent God, or that Truth is to be found in a particular holy text.
On this site, you bump into a lot of tribal thinkers who embrace superiority, prejudice, oppression and violence. I get a little confused by the frequent conflict between religious perspectives and tribal thinking. Simply, you can’t follow the commandments to love, or the social ‘shall not’ rules of the Ten Commandments while embracing tribal thinking’s superiority, prejudice, oppression and violence.
Each of these major worldviews finds Truth in a different way, satisfies a different need. An argument based on one worldview does not effect or touch someone who is into a different worldview. One often gets an assumption of stupidity. If someone has a different worldview, one does not get an attempt to understand, but rather an accusation of stupidity, an inability to think in any perspective but one’s own.
To me, a quote of what some consider to be an infallible text is next to nothing. It is at best the wisdom of the ages warmed over. It assumes man has not learned and grown.
And to me prejudice, oppression and violence are undesirable. They are the sort of feature of a culture that are removed in a crisis. But to some they are basic needs. They need to be superior. They suppose that because prejudice, oppression and violence always have been major traits of most every culture, so they always shall be.
The ’shall not’ commandments of the Ten, the shall love commandments of Jesus, are religious expressions of how to build a desirable culture. Over the years the same basic idea has been expressed by philosophy and law. How encouraging tribal thinking can be considered compatible with these expressions is the question.