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Re: Democracy?

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Bob Butler wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 8:50 pm
If the majority believes it should exercise bigotry, if it believes it should force it's way of worship on others, if it believes rule of law should not apply to it, if it believes minority voting should be hampered, if it believes economic privilege should be resevere for their own group, then of course democracy will not by that understanding flourish.
More like minorities with chips on their shoulders are going to destroy the country.

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FullMoon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 am
Progressivesm has become nihilism.
You got it.

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FullMoon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 am
Bob Butler wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 8:50 pm
If the majority believes it should exercise bigotry, if it believes it should force it's way of worship on others, if it believes rule of law should not apply to it, if it believes minority voting should be hampered, if it believes economic privilege should be resevere for their own group, then of course democracy will not by that understanding flourish.
I see the word 'if' starting each small indictment. You could easily insert Left although you probably meant Right. The argument for inserting Left is stronger on most counts. Stronger than you believe. Because the activism is from the Left and all the things you mention are as well. They're imaginations and conjurations. They don't exist for the majority of people in their ordinary lives. American people are good and understand what goodness is. Despite our current difficulties and divisions. We're better than ever before. And much progress is currently in evidence everywhere. But people aren't happy with having better than ever before. Progressivesm has become nihilism.
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Re: Democracy?

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FullMoon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 am
Bob Butler wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 8:50 pm
If the majority believes it should exercise bigotry, if it believes it should force it's way of worship on others, if it believes rule of law should not apply to it, if it believes minority voting should be hampered, if it believes economic privilege should be resevere for their own group, then of course democracy will not by that understanding flourish.
I see the word 'if' starting each small indictment.
If you were the one being murdered, forced into pregnancy, disenfranchised, prejudiced against, etc... you would not find the problems minor.

Generational dynamics. Oppress the different.

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Re: Democracy?

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Bob Butler wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 9:52 am
FullMoon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 am
Bob Butler wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 8:50 pm
If the majority believes it should exercise bigotry, if it believes it should force it's way of worship on others, if it believes rule of law should not apply to it, if it believes minority voting should be hampered, if it believes economic privilege should be resevere for their own group, then of course democracy will not by that understanding flourish.
I see the word 'if' starting each small indictment.
If you were the one being murdered, forced into pregnancy, disenfranchised, prejudiced against, etc... you would not find the problems minor.

Generational dynamics. Oppress the different.
TROLL...or do you really believe this? :shock:

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Re: Democracy?

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Bob Butler wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 9:52 am
FullMoon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 am
Bob Butler wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 8:50 pm
If the majority believes it should exercise bigotry, if it believes it should force it's way of worship on others, if it believes rule of law should not apply to it, if it believes minority voting should be hampered, if it believes economic privilege should be resevere for their own group, then of course democracy will not by that understanding flourish.
I see the word 'if' starting each small indictment.
If you were the one being murdered, forced into pregnancy, disenfranchised, prejudiced against, etc... you would not find the problems minor.

Generational dynamics. Oppress the different.
And who is murdering blacks?

Other blacks.

Disenfranchised? That would be the people who voted for Trump only to see their ballots ignored.

Forced into pregnancy?

How so? And by who?

Prejudiced against?

Oh, you white males?

Or Asians being blocked from entering America's best schools?

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Us vs Them

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Thu May 23, 2024 11:31 am
Bob Butler wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 9:52 am
FullMoon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 am

I see the word 'if' starting each small indictment.
If you were the one being murdered, forced into pregnancy, disenfranchised, prejudiced against, etc... you would not find the problems minor.

Generational dynamics. Oppress the different.
TROLL...or do you really believe this? :shock:
Was George Floyd among many of the black lives that mattered? Do laws outlawing abortion force one group’s religious beliefs on a majority and force pregnancy on the unwilling? Does Trump not believe he should be immune to rule of law? Have gerrymandering and requirements on voting not disenfranchised?

Yes, I believe it. Not that all flaws in US and similar cultures are directly linked to white supremacy. Drugs and gang warfare could be a problem in the most lily white culture. Any time you outlaw anything popular you tempt criminals to profit. You get gang wars. Pointing out that flaws other than white supremacy exist does not disprove those that do.

Generational Dynamics features an instinct to hate, kill and oppress the different. It is real, as illustrated by both sides of the Gaza war. It is a a pain and deadly. Still, as I have frequently pointed out, there is an opposite instinct to love thy neighbor. I would expect both, and in one’s own culture I would discourage hate and encourage love. It is human nature to pit us against them. In America's case, it pits the old white European dominant culture expecting and believing in maintaining their dominance against the new multiracial, multicultural modern reality. I anticipate modern reality triumphing.

Do you really disbelieve this? Do you encourage hate and discourage love? Are you rejecting Generational Dynamics? Do you somehow manage to applaud John’s theory but not apply it to obvious examples of the theory in action?

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Hypocrisy

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Last night, Rachel Meadows emphasized that people were aware of their guilty behavior all along. Over history, there were often problematic things going on, and often people of conscience speaking up about it. There were abolitionist, opponents of the trial to tears, violations of native treaties, treating native Pacific cultures as George III treated us and advocating Fascism before and during WW II. There was Mark Twain, Thoreau and Martin Luther King in addition to Thomas Paine. The summary of the hypocrisy was that Americans preached about liberty as they whipped their slaves.

How different is it today?

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Communism

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FullMoon wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:45 pm
Communists are defined by their state of mind.
Will Communism triumph in the Clash of Civilization or the basic tenets as put forth by the great documents created by the founders of the greatest country in history? Bob is on the wrong side and he'll ride the atom bomb all the way to the ground. Then be ground to bits in the gulags. That's just simple trajectory calculation together with historical precedent
You have it backwards. The communists favor invasion over containment, big money making the rules for the sake of big money, and of course Trump. The progressives disagree. The conservatives seem to favor the abuses.

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Re: Communism

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Bob Butler wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:49 pm
FullMoon wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:45 pm
Communists are defined by their state of mind.
Will Communism triumph in the Clash of Civilization or the basic tenets as put forth by the great documents created by the founders of the greatest country in history? Bob is on the wrong side and he'll ride the atom bomb all the way to the ground. Then be ground to bits in the gulags. That's just simple trajectory calculation together with historical precedent
You have it backwards. The communists favor invasion over containment, big money making the rules for the sake of big money, and of course Trump. The progressives disagree. The conservatives seem to favor the abuses.

Bob,

You said,
The communists favor ... of course Trump.
Show us how the communists favor Trump. Which communists? How did they favor Trump? Who or what did they favor Trump over versus someone or something else? Do communists as a majority favor Trump?

If you can give us a deep dive showing communists favor Trump, I'll move this post back to the news thread.

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