Polyticks: Bob Butler's Perspective

[FullMoon]

We now have Bob indirectly accusing everyone else on this board of being conspiratorial MAGA types. He's gone too far again in purposely hijacking the forum for the intent of spewing falsehoods and inflammatory rhetoric.
Do we have a Moderator involved with this forum on deck? I suggest Moderator status granted to Higg. It's about time.

[Bob Butler]

We now have Bob indirectly accusing everyone else on this board of being conspiratorial MAGA types. He's gone too far again in purposely hijacking the forum for the intent of spewing falsehoods and inflammatory rhetoric.

Liar. I see several motivations, and you could likely find somebody who emphasizes one or another if you looked.

I suggest Moderator status granted to Higg. It's about time.

Already done, at least if you take John's 'thank you for moderating' comment seriously.

[Bob Butler]

In the days of the Cold War, a CIA agent would need to learn a new language to perfection and craft a whole new persona just to get into the Eastern Bloc.

Today, all Chinese agents need to do to infiltrate the Untied States is walk across the border and call anyone who tries to stop them racist.

Probably mostly true, but it says more about the area being infiltrated than the agent. The US asylum policy would be much more real, the old East Bloc more closed. There just weren't many US culture people in the old East Bloc.

Biden and a bipartisan group in the Senate was working on an asylum package that would allow prompt asylum processing. There are a bunch of asians that would be assets if the effort succeeded. Trump killed it as he would rather blame Biden for not solving the problem than see Biden solve another problem. I'm more with Biden.

[spottybrowncow]

Have you ever heard of something called evidence?

Have you ever heard of something called prudence?
The FBI is now slowly changing course and implying it's not if, but when the terrorists who have crossed the southern border launch coordinated attacks. Why wouldn't the Chinese be in on this? Why do you think that serious things that can be reasonably anticipated should rather be ignored for lack of overt evidence? I'm not angry with you and I'm not insulting you (currently), I'm genuinely curious as to how a human being who purports to be smarter than all 70+ million people who voted for Trump can live his life in such a state of delusion and denial.

[Higgenbotham]

I suggest Moderator status granted to Higg. It's about time.

Already done, at least if you take John's 'thank you for moderating' comment seriously.

I also want to thank Higgie
for agreeing to take over
moderating the forum if I
can't.

Status has been granted, but rarely used in the news thread (where there is most of the controversy).

[Bob Butler]

Status has been granted, but rarely used in the news thread (where there is most of the controversy).

My other thought is that some people and posts are concerned with insults and disparaging people. Such posts are much more concerned with the poster's ideas that the person insulted. Perhaps they should be moved to the poster's thread rather than the one being insulted? They certainly don't reflect my own ideas. You shouldn't use the moderator role to support attacks.

[Guest]

It was their chance to flood our nation with so many migrants that there would be no hope of deporting them all.

The bipartisan border bill among other things would have expanded the group working asylum approval to deport the undeserving quickly. Trump killed it as he perceived Biden solving problems gave an advantage to Biden. He preferred the problem remained unsolved. Tump cares only about Trump. He cares about his own situation, not about solving a problem facing America.

Left-Wing elites aren't imposing multiracialism and immigration just to be nice to brown people, they genuinely hate White people and want to cause us as much suffering as possible.

White Leftists have negative in-group preference, meaning that they genuinely hate their own race and actively work against their own racial interests at every available opportunity.

They don't believe in equality, they believe that Whites are lazier, less intelligent, and more violent than Blacks, that Whites are oppressing Blacks, and that all Whites should feel guilty.

They are also extremely mentally ill.

And that's just the White Leftists. When you factor in that many elites are non-Whites who have anti-White revenge complexes and ethnic grievance vendettas, the malevolence of their policies becomes even more transparent.

[Bob Butler]

Left-Wing elites aren't imposing multiracialism and immigration just to be nice to brown people, they genuinely hate White people and want to cause us as much suffering as possible.

White Leftists have negative in-group preference, meaning that they genuinely hate their own race and actively work against their own racial interests at every available opportunity.

They don't believe in equality, they believe that Whites are lazier, less intelligent, and more violent than Blacks, that Whites are oppressing Blacks, and that all Whites should feel guilty.

The Democratic position centers on one culture not imposing their traditions on other cultures. It is an extension of all men being equal under law. In short, no bigots and religious fanatics pressing their 'beliefs' on other cultures.

A few issues: abortion, gun control, insurrection, Black Lives Matter, prompt resolution of asylum, and gerrymandering. These cannot be argued as oppressing a given race. On the other hand, Republican opposition to some of these is based on making life difficult for those not actively pursing traditional white traditions such as prejudice and medieval European religious tradition. Neither of these should be pushed by government.

[Guest]

Left-Wing elites aren't imposing multiracialism and immigration just to be nice to brown people, they genuinely hate White people and want to cause us as much suffering as possible.

White Leftists have negative in-group preference, meaning that they genuinely hate their own race and actively work against their own racial interests at every available opportunity.

They don't believe in equality, they believe that Whites are lazier, less intelligent, and more violent than Blacks, that Whites are oppressing Blacks, and that all Whites should feel guilty.

The Democratic position centers on one culture not imposing their traditions on other cultures. It is an extension of all men being equal under law. In short, no bigots and religious fanatics pressing their 'beliefs' on other cultures.

A few issues: abortion, gun control, insurrection, Black Lives Matter, prompt resolution of asylum, and gerrymandering. These cannot be argued as oppressing a given race. On the other hand, Republican opposition to some of these is based on making life difficult for those not actively pursing traditional white traditions such as prejudice and medieval European religious tradition. Neither of these should be pushed by government.

BLM is an a racist assault on the white race. Gun control aims to disarm whites and leave them defenceless. The 'insurrection' is being used as an excuse to destroy whites and create a one party leftist state.

Republican opposition to some of these is based on making life difficult for those not actively pursing traditional white traditions such as prejudice and medieval European religious tradition.

And here you villianize whites.

Like the previous poster said:

Left-Wing elites aren't imposing multiracialism and immigration just to be nice to brown people, they genuinely hate White people and want to cause us as much suffering as possible.

You prove the previous poster to be correct, Butler.

[Bob Butler]

BLM is an a racist assault on the white race. Gun control aims to disarm whites and leave them defenceless. The 'insurrection' is being used as an excuse to destroy whites and create a one party leftist state.

BLM was an attempt to prevent racist cops from murdering minorities. Gun control is currently targeting the insane, not any particular race. Are you advocating for spree killers? The insurrection was an attempt to violently overthrow democracy.

The conservative troublemakers actively abuse violence. The lesser conservative troublemakers merely support the violence. Kill the different, rah, rah, rah?

The crisis is apt to leave us short term with a one party progressive state. Think of the Guilded Age or the 1950s. After the crisis, you build infrastructure and have an economically positive time.

I don't see the current crisis violence as a progressive excuse. The murdering cops, spree killers and insurrectionists are more responsible for the three issues you quote than anything the progressives did. If there was no surge in violence, the progressives would not have to react to stop it. Those three issues were created by the violent.

I see the conflict changing at least by the awakening. The conservatives will be selfish and greedy. The progressives will have environmental concerns. As usual, the progressives will win out in the long term, but those with too much influence in corporations and politics will make it hard. The conservatives cling to the flaws of the existing culture. The progressives always want to remove them. The new values emphasize cleaning up the flaws.