Polyticks: Bob Butler's Perspective

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tim
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Re: Science and Conspiracy Theories

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Bob Butler wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:28 pm
From your chart above, I see that shortly after the vaccines were introduced, polio vanished. You see this as justification for a conspiracy theory which I do not see. It is one thing to generate a conspiracy theory. It is another to find evidence for it.
Is it a conspiracy theory when Dr. Fauci starts to back pedal?

Dr. Fauci opens up the possibility that the COVID-19 vaccine could be making people more likely to be infected by the virus.

"This would not be the first time, if it happened, that a vaccine that looked good in initial safety actually made people worse."

https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/ ... lit%2Fc%2F
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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Re: Polyticks: Bob Butler's Perspective

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Joe Rogan #1747 with Dr. Peter McCullough is pretty interesting. Why did they deceive people by saying there is no early treatment to push the vaccine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvkjAJy7s5w

The simulated SPARS virus epidemic in 2017 almost predicted COVID-19.

https://carterheavyindustries.files.wor ... 5-2028.pdf
This is a hypothetical scenario designed to illustrate the public health risk communication
challenges that could potentially emerge during a naturally occurring infectious disease outbreak
requiring development and distribution of novel and/or investigational drugs, vaccines,
therapeutics, or other medical countermeasures.
The infectious pathogen, medical countermeasures, characters, news media excerpts, social media
posts, and government agency responses described herein are entirely fictional.
This pretty much came true 2 years later.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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Re: Science and Conspiracy Theories

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tim wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:25 pm
Bob Butler wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:28 pm
From your chart above, I see that shortly after the vaccines were introduced, polio vanished. You see this as justification for a conspiracy theory which I do not see. It is one thing to generate a conspiracy theory. It is another to find evidence for it.
Is it a conspiracy theory when Dr. Fauci starts to back pedal?

Dr. Fauci opens up the possibility that the COVID-19 vaccine could be making people more likely to be infected by the virus.

"This would not be the first time, if it happened, that a vaccine that looked good in initial safety actually made people worse."

https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/ ... lit%2Fc%2F
Scientific evidence instead of wild political conspiracy theories please.

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Re: Science and Conspiracy Theories

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Bob Butler wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:55 pm
tim wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:25 pm
Bob Butler wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:28 pm
From your chart above, I see that shortly after the vaccines were introduced, polio vanished. You see this as justification for a conspiracy theory which I do not see. It is one thing to generate a conspiracy theory. It is another to find evidence for it.
Is it a conspiracy theory when Dr. Fauci starts to back pedal?

Dr. Fauci opens up the possibility that the COVID-19 vaccine could be making people more likely to be infected by the virus.

"This would not be the first time, if it happened, that a vaccine that looked good in initial safety actually made people worse."

https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/ ... lit%2Fc%2F
Scientific evidence instead of wild political conspiracy theories please.
Coming from a true believer in wild conspiracy theories, that's just quite rich. You should look into this matter more deeply. From all angles. There's quite a bit involved below the surface.

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Re: Science and Conspiracy Theories

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Bob Butler wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:55 pm
tim wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:25 pm
Bob Butler wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:28 pm
From your chart above, I see that shortly after the vaccines were introduced, polio vanished. You see this as justification for a conspiracy theory which I do not see. It is one thing to generate a conspiracy theory. It is another to find evidence for it.
Is it a conspiracy theory when Dr. Fauci starts to back pedal?

Dr. Fauci opens up the possibility that the COVID-19 vaccine could be making people more likely to be infected by the virus.

"This would not be the first time, if it happened, that a vaccine that looked good in initial safety actually made people worse."

https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/ ... lit%2Fc%2F
Scientific evidence instead of wild political conspiracy theories please.
Original antigenic sin— It’s why medicine has struggled to produce effective vaccines for some viruses (like HIV, HCV, and now (likely) SARS Cov2). Not only does the vaccine target a protein that is no longer in circulation due to rapid mutations of the virus, but the first exposure becomes the one your immune system remembers. Then, when you get exposed to a later variant, your immune system pumps out antibodies based on your very first exposure to whatever circulating coronavirus was around from your childhood (not always effective).
Remember coronaviruses make up 10-15% of the “cold viruses” that circulate, so everyone on this forum has had prior exposure to a coronavirus long before Covid was spliced.
That is a SUPER simplified version, but you can read more on original antigenic sin below in the published scientific peer-reviewed medical journal articles available on PubMed.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9697771/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32582200/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33692194/

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