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** 27-Mar-2023 World View: Cum Nimis Absurdu

The Catholics (and, I assume, the
Orthodox Christians as well) have for
centuries blamed the Jews for the death
of Jesus Christ. This was stated
explicitly by Pope Paul IV Papal bull on
July 14, 1555.

That Papal bull has never been
withdrawn, and was considered by many to
be the teachings of the Church well into
the 20th century, well through the time
of Hitler and the Holocaust.

It was finally repudiated on April 13,
1986 by Pope John Paul II.

I do not know whether or not Orthodox
Christians still blame the Jews for the
death of Jesus Christ.

In 2014, I wrote a lengthy article
describing these issues:

** 25-May-14 World View -- Pope Francis visits Mideast to reconcile with Jews, Orthodox, and Muslims
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e140525



The following paragraphs are some brief
excerpts from that article:

For centuries, the Catholics have blamed
the Jews for the death of Jesus, and
have justified discrimination against
Jews for that reason. The most explicit
statement of this was a Papal bull
issued by Pope Paul IV on July 14, 1555.
It applied mainly to the city of Rome.
It established a ghetto with only one
entrance and exit, and prescribed severe
economic restrictions. It begins with
the words, "Cum Nimis Absurdu" ("As it
is completely absurd"), and goes on to
explain that though they are condemned
to eternal servitude through their own
fault (killing Jesus), it is absurd that
they should be allowed to live freely
with Christians.

Here's the beginning:
"As it is completely
absurd and improper in the utmost
that the Jews, who through their own
fault were condemned by God to
eternal servitude, can under the
pretext that pious Christians must
accept them and sustain their
habitation, are so ungrateful to
Christians, as, instead of thanks
for gracious treatment, they return
contumely, and among themselves,
instead of the slavery, which they
deserve, they manage to claim
superiority: we, who newly learned
that these very Jews have insolently
invaded our City Rome and a number
of the Papal States, territories and
domains their impudence increased so
much that they dare not only to live
amongst the Christian people, but
also in the vicinity of the churches
without any difference of dressing,
and even that they rent houses in
the main streets and squares, buy
and hold immovable property, engage
maids, nurses and other Christian
servants, and commit other and
numerous misdeeds with shame and
contempt of the Christian
name. Considering that the Church of
Rome tolerates these very Jews is
evidence of the true Christian faith
and to this end [we declare]: that
they, won over by the piety and
kindness of the See, should at long
last recognize their erroneous ways,
and should lose no time in seeing
the true light of the catholic
faith, and thus to agree that while
they persist in their errors,
realizing that they are slaves
because of their deeds, whereas
Christians have been freed through
our Lord God Jesus Christ, and that
it is iniquitous for it to appear
that the sons of free women serve
the sons of maids.

1. Desiring firstly, as much as we
can with God, to beneficially
provide, by this. that will forever
be in force, we ordain that for the
rest of time, in the City as well as
in other states, territories and
domains of the Church of Rome
itself, all Jews are to live in one
and if there is not that capacity in
two or three or however many
quarters may be enough; they should
reside entirely side by side in
designated streets and be thoroughly
separate from the residences of
Christians, by our authority in the
City and by that of our
representatives in other states,
lands and domains noted above, and
that there must be only one entrance
and exit from this
quarter."
The paragraph above explicitly describes
how the ghetto is to work. The bull
goes to list enormous restrictions on
Jews, including where they may earn a
living. ...

The Papal bull "Cum Nimis Absurdu" has
never been withdrawn, and was considered
by many to be the teachings of the
Church well into the 20th century, well
through the time of Hitler and the
Holocaust.

It was only fully repudiated finally on
April 13, 1986, when Pope John Paul II
made a dramatic visit to the Great
Synagogue of Rome and gave an address
that fully repudiated the terms of "Cum
Nimis Absurdu":
"We are all aware that,
among the riches of this paragraph
no. 4 of Nostra Aetate, three points
are especially relevant. I would
like to underline them here, before
you, in this truly unique
circumstance. The first is that the
Church of Christ discovers her
"bond" with Judaism by "searching
into her own mystery" (cf. Nostra
Aetate, ibid.) The Jewish religion
is not "extrinsic" to us, but in a
certain way is "intrinsic" to our
own religion. With Judaism therefore
we have a relationship which we do
not have with any other
religion. You are our dearly beloved
brothers and, in a certain way, it
could be said that you are our elder
brothers.

The second point noted by the
Council is that no ancestral or
collective blame can be imputed to
the Jews as a people for "what
happened in Christ's passion"
(cf. Nostra Aetate, ibid.) Not
indiscriminately to the Jews of that
time, nor to those who came
afterwards, nor to those of
today. So any alleged theological
justification for discriminatory
measures or, worse still, for acts
of persecution is unfounded. The
Lord will judge each one "according
to his own works," Jews and
Christians alike (cf. Rom 2:6)

The third point that I would like to
emphasize in the Council's
Declaration is a consequence of the
second. Notwithstanding the Church's
awareness of her own identity, it is
not lawful to say that the Jews are
"repudiated or cursed," as if this
were taught or could be deduced from
the Sacred Scriptures of the Old or
the New Testament (cf. Nostra
Aetate, ibid.). Indeed, the Council
had already said in this same text
of Nostra Aetate, but also in the
Dogmatic Constitution Lumen Gentium,
no. 16, referring to Saint Paul in
the Letter to the Romans (11:28-29),
that the Jews are beloved of God,
who has called them with an
irrevocable calling."
In particular, for the first time, the
Pope specifically and unambiguously
repudiated the claim that the Jews were
at fault for the death of Jesus.

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Re: Cool Breeze's Topic

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Christ died on the Cross because He was carrying out the will of the Father. It's that simple.
Psalm 34:4 - “I sought the Lord, and he answered me and delivered me from all my fears.”

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Clarkmod wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:16 pm
Cool Breeze wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:26 am
John wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:20 pm
** 26-Mar-2023 World View: Nonsensical and insulting

A lot of what you've been writing is
nonsense, and even insulting. However,
I do wish to express my appreciation and
thank you for putting most of it in your
own thread.

By the way, you never answered my
question:

Do you believe that the Jews are
collectively to blame for the murder of
Jesus Christ, and do you think that they
should be punished?
Why do you want to ban me? It's the same as Clarkmod. I enjoy gotcha questions, but not when they suggest ban hammer, which is what you two are doing, like you are Mr. GreenBlatt from the ADL.
This suggests that you have been banned from a number of other forums and have experience in how your racist and anti-semitic propaganda has resulted in previous bans from other forums. That's interesting, because it implies that your purpose in being on the Internet is to spread hate and, surely, if your primary purpose was analysis and truth telling as you state you would have no experience in how bans typically go down. It also implies that other forums have given you much less leeway than you have received here, contrary to what you are accusing me of.

Now let's get back to the topic at hand, which is for you to answer the two questions you have been asked.
No it doesn't, I've just seen what happens to people, especially since you are already (and have been) censoring posts.

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I can't speak for the Roman Catholic Church. Why would I? It's not Roman, or Catholic anyway

We have Saints in the Orthodox Church that had disagreements on certain things. We only have a small number of things that are considered "dogma" in the sense that if you reject these, you cannot be a member of the Church.

Do you want to become Orthodox? I suggest you follow our doctrine and practice, or dedicate yourself to it again if you have abandoned it, and under the guidance of a spiritual father that you trust, once you repent.

If you don't, why does it matter to you? I speak on things in this forum that can be verified secularly, among other things. Discernment is lacking here, and much wisdom, because the wisdom of the world is in Jesus Christ, and few here follow Him. He's the wisdom, word and power of God.

I thought you at least knew the Gospels. They are quite clear.

You play word games, and try to trap me. Bish does the same thing, because he is in league with the rebellious ones of this age. I'd recommend not doing similar things.

Republicans are Zionists, so quite clearly we have (in many ways) a ZOG. Nevertheless, may His will be done. He's working out the evil of man to be for goodness in the end.

Your rationalism is futile, even if you could predict anything, and you can't, so it really means nothing big picture. It would be nice if people here didn't carry water for the propaganda makers who really control, and ruined our country.

Now go be a "good" boy and get another booster.

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:51 pm
Clarkmod wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:16 pm
Cool Breeze wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:26 am

Why do you want to ban me? It's the same as Clarkmod. I enjoy gotcha questions, but not when they suggest ban hammer, which is what you two are doing, like you are Mr. GreenBlatt from the ADL.
This suggests that you have been banned from a number of other forums and have experience in how your racist and anti-semitic propaganda has resulted in previous bans from other forums. That's interesting, because it implies that your purpose in being on the Internet is to spread hate and, surely, if your primary purpose was analysis and truth telling as you state you would have no experience in how bans typically go down. It also implies that other forums have given you much less leeway than you have received here, contrary to what you are accusing me of.

Now let's get back to the topic at hand, which is for you to answer the two questions you have been asked.
No it doesn't, I've just seen what happens to people, especially since you are already (and have been) censoring posts.
I did move this post from another topic to this one without any editing:
Cool Breeze wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:00 pm
aeden wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:04 am
Canaries in the coal mine have been dead since Keynes buried paper in bottles and buried them in a mine.
He even told you what would happen. No way do they listen they just lawyer up for the mop up operations.
I wonder if Jamal and Tyrone will care when the bish tells them he's an ally, and they are at his door for their reparations? lol
Is that what you are complaining about? Or which specific post are you complaining about?

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As we see with current projections six banks will survive was noted in numerous venues of press.
If the numbers are correct as seen recently 1.2 trillion dollars moved to the largest bank centers.
The operations has pegged up and evolved since taproot and the MIT files to legally move capital in as such
to SEC jurisdictional statuses. Few as in less are even remotely up to speed.
Crypto will not be covered for FIDC sweeps appears valid. The chartered banks will.
The file of origin is march sweeps and alice. As for our correct view the tbills will roll off in June and July.
We also suggested watch the h.4.1 as targeted assets are added in sectors.
I would suggest fx evolution for decent parameters as this window evolves.
H has been correct since the litmus test to events trended as the financial unit SI for guidance
ignored also.
I am not long gbtc or biti for now as the march sweeps evolve to issues rather anticipated for some.
We reminded the younger guys who are smart and clever what the consequences had been in zones
as hammer to toes and left on the beach to remind other crypto geniuses what they are actually dealing with.
Yes, we went to college also for decades and decades also signing the front and back of the Checks also as many have also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RWZfUgiyyg

Last check 48.33% of the world's population own a smartphone. I do not for basic security reasons.

As noted sweeps already underway.
The Hangover Arrives: Explosive Inflation Leads To Record Collapse In Home, Car Purchase Plans. Tyler
thread: taproot, bash, amos, alice

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Clarkmod wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:41 am
Cool Breeze wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:22 am
Clarkmod wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:49 pm


It's time for you to stop the game playing. Answer the question.

Please be aware that not everyone, and that includes me, has time to research all of the bizarre alt right racist and anti-semitic code words and rants you may be tossing out here. It's up to YOU to explain why you are using them and what they have to do with this forum.

Especially when it's posted in other threads and I move it here to your thread. Such as your 2 references to "ZOG" today which you posted in the News thread and were moved here.

Another point. Regarding this forum. Most posters on this forum are doing analysis and much of it is quite good. There is a difference between analysis and propaganda. Unexplained references to "ZOG" read more like propaganda than analysis.
I've specifically laid this out and given realities, evidence, and examples. You want to ban me, I get it. If you don't want to do the work, or use logic and facts to come to conclusions, that's not on me.

I've given tons of analysis also on the site, correctly analyzing the inflation situation (John was dead wrong, still is), the point of view that NATO was not needed and is pressing their limits due to being unnecessary and not liking their power being irrelevant, and perhaps most importantly, the realization DURING COVID that it was a scam and the jabs would injure people.

Let's cut the crap and be open minded, real truth seekers. Not name callers and censorers, like the Democrat communists. It's amazing that people don't have insight on what they do, which is perpetuate the propaganda here. All the while, a dead man tramples the Constitution and with the deep state puts America and Europe (tons of sacrificed Ukrainians already, what do they care) in peril.
Let's start with the first sentence of your response. Show where you've laid it out, specifically with my question to you. Or is cut and paste too hard for you?
Is this where you laid it out or is this part of the tons of analysis you've given on this site?
Cool Breeze wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:00 pm
aeden wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:04 am
Canaries in the coal mine have been dead since Keynes buried paper in bottles and buried them in a mine.
He even told you what would happen. No way do they listen they just lawyer up for the mop up operations.
I wonder if Jamal and Tyrone will care when the bish tells them he's an ally, and they are at his door for their reparations? lol
Or what am I missing? I've found nothing.

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Clark, first be honest. Either you, or John, or both of you straight up delete my posts. You don't just move them here. Some you do, ok. But if you can't be honest about that, how can we act like there is dialogue possible here?

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:23 pm
Clark, first be honest. Either you, or John, or both of you straight up delete my posts. You don't just move them here. Some you do, ok. But if you can't be honest about that, how can we act like there is dialogue possible here?
If there's a specific post you are concerned about, I can help you with that. But there's not much I can do about a post you claim has disappeared and that you don't know the content of.

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** 28-Mar-2023 World View: Deleting Cool Breeze's posts

Cool Breeze wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:23 pm

Clark, first be honest. Either you, or
John, or both of you straight up delete
my posts. You don't just move them
here. Some you do, ok. But if you can't
be honest about that, how can we act
like there is dialogue possible here?
I sometimes move your post, when I have
the energy and I'm in the mood, but it
takes about 20 steps.

On the other hand, deleting your post
takes just one step, so that's what I do
most of the time.

If you save a copy of your post, you can
always repost in your own thread. That
way, you have to do all the work, not
me. I like it better that way.

As I've said before, I believe that you
post these insulting, nonsensical, and
anti-Semitic posts simply because you
want to annoy me, and because you want
to whine and moan and play the victim,
just like a pathetic woman.

And lately you've been talking about
being banned. I'm not saying it can't
happen, but no one has been talking
about banning you except you. And it's
pretty obvious that you keep talking
about it because you want to be banned
so that, once again, you want to whine
and moan, and act like a pathetic woman.
You're pretty pathetic anyway.

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