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https://news.rebekahbarnett.com.au/p/co ... -spotlight
Covid vaccine injuries in the spotlight

Reality goes mainstream in Australia, but not without a side of gaslighting
Highlights:

The parents of 34-year-old Katie Lees, who died from the AstraZeneca shot, told Katie’s story and said they’ve still received no acknowledgement or apology from anyone in charge.

Dr Kerryn Phelps, former head of the Australian Medical Association (AMA), discussed her Pfizer injury and said “There is an incredible lack of medical curiosity about investigating [Covid vaccine injuries]” and that the roughly 140,000 injury reports on the national safety surveillance database (the DAEN) are a “drop in the ocean compared to the number of actual adverse reactions that there are… because a lot of them aren’t being reported, because certainly in the early days they weren’t being recognised.”

Jackie Stricker-Phelps (Kerryn’s wife) said the Pfizer shot “has ruined my life” and that even if she could take another vaccine, which she now can’t, “I wouldn’t go near them with a 10-foot barge pole.” She added that “the compensation scheme is hopeless,” only covering a narrow selection of injuries.

An audience member said she “fundamentally got long haul covid from the vaccine” which caused her to be “pretty much bed bound for two and a half years,” and asked “when will there… be a proper acknowledgment by the government as to actual vaccine injury?”

Another audience member asked why there is no large scale study of the Australian population comparing immune responses of unvaccinated people against people who have had one, two, three and more doses. “We have a society that is chronically ill.. and it is not the unvaccinated,” she said.

Friend of the blog Alison Bevege criticised a panelist’s assertion that data collection from the the mass worldwide rollout hasn’t turned up any usual side effects. “You’re not collecting the data in a controlled manner, that’s not a test, that’s just giving it to everybody.”

After panelists told concerned audience members they were wrong, emphasising Covid vaccine safety and effectiveness, an audience member yelled out, “they’re not safe and they’re not effective.”

Host Michael Usher said “with vaccinations rushed through there was no time to properly test.. and that led to ongoing health problems for some people who got the jab,” before revealing that of the roughly 140,000 adverse events reported to the national safety surveillance database in relation to Covid vaccines, 22,000 were classified as serious. He also said “we were all forced to get the jab.”
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0DxJ1vbmM
2024 excess deaths

Dr. John Campbell
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“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/06/a ... condition/
Army Admits Link Between COVID Vaccine and Soldier’s Heart Condition

“I was experiencing severe neuropathic pain, felt like burning sensations throughout my whole body and I was having chest pains, breathing issues and a really high heart rate and dizziness. It felt like a balloon was blowing up in my chest.”
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/act ... 35493.html
Heslin, known for his role in the 2023 thriller series "Lioness," passed away earlier this week at 30. His husband announced on Friday that Heslin succumbed to an "unexpected cardiac event" on July 2 after a "week-long battle in the hospital."

Despite being young and in perfect health, Dynamo shared that doctors "have no explanation for what happened" to Heslin. He added that Heslin, a committed organ donor, had also "given the gift of life to four different families" through his donations.
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Ivermectin is often recognized – 2nd to penicillin – for having the greatest impact on human health.

Its discovery even won the Nobel Prize.

But the propagandists, like Chris Cuomo, told you it was a “dangerous horse dewormer.”

Well, over 100 studies now show that ivermectin is profoundly effective against COVID-19.

Specifically, improvements in:

Mortality: 48% improved survival rate

Hospitalization: 34% reduced hospitalization rate

Recovery: 38% faster recovery rate

Cases: 81% reduction in COVID-19 cases

Viral clearance: 41% improved viral clearance

Ivermectin also has an exceptional safety profile. It’s safer than Tylenol, and it is credited for bringing river blindness to the brink of extinction.

And it’s not like this is buried information. If the TV propagandists bothered with a simple Google search, they could have figured this out.

Now, ivermectin is emerging as a “very effective” drug against certain cancers.

Imagine that.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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Remember All Those Government COVID Policies? Turns Out They Were Useless
Government COVID Policies Were Completely Useless
A new study published in Science was released in June attempting to study the impact of a broad range of COVID policies, from an enormous variety of countries.

"Government responses to COVID-19 are among the most globally impactful events of the 21st century. The extent to which responses—such as school closures—were associated with changes in COVID-19 outcomes remains unsettled," the study reads.

Essentially, the researchers used a "Multiverse analysis" to "offer a systematic approach to testing a large range of models." That incorporated "daily data on 16 government responses in 181 countries in 2020–2021," when most policies were in effect.

They also examined four outcomes to determine whether those policies had been successful: "cases, infections, COVID-19 deaths, and all-cause excess deaths." That data was then incorporated into nearly 100,000 analytic models to attempt to find a comprehensive, conclusive answer to the all-important question: did what we do actually make any difference?

Spoiler alert: it sure didn't.
https://www.outkick.com/analysis/rememb ... re-useless

But hey, why get science tangled up with the religion of the Covidians and the brainwashed death jab lovers? What we knew as common sense WAS common sense. In a time when common sense is very rare.

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https://merylnass.substack.com/p/raw-mi ... rd-flu-has
Raw Milk 'containing bird flu' has made nobody sick, to the dismay of our federal agencies

Who are spending hundreds of millions (so far) on unnecessary vaccines for the exaggerated bird flu plague.
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/wef-cl ... population
WEF claims a projected 25% population increase will require 60% more food; therefore we must eat ze bugs!

The new math (1 + 1 does not = 2) serves the elites so well
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/your-t ... -gardeners
Your taxes pay to survey home gardeners to claim they have a 6x greater carbon footprint than industrial agriculture.

If true (and there are many caveats) So what? The Attack on Food
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https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/ ... es-a-legal
Scientific "Consensus" Loses A Legal Challenge

In a recent development in the defense of Dr. Charles Hoffe against the BC College of Physicians and Surgeons, the judge ruled that the College has to prove its alleged "incontestable truths."
A brief review of Dr. Hoffe’s case:

Canadian community doctor Dr. Charles Hoffe was one of the first to notice something was “wrong” with the vaccines in April 2021 after he witnessed terrible injuries (strokes etc.) and even a death in the patients he was vaccinating. He then wrote an open letter to the College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia with his observations and concerns, suggesting that perhaps the jabs should be put on pause until their safety could be more assured. One paragraph from the letter said:

“In our small community of Lytton, BC, we have one person dead, and three people who look as though they will be permanently disabled, following their first dose of the Moderna vaccine. The age of those affected ranges from 38 to 82 years of age,” he wrote.

Hoffe was then banned from working in the local emergency ward and other provincial hospitals. He later submitted more than a dozen claims of vaccine injuries on behalf of his patients, but all were denied validity.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/and-li ... m-vaccines
AND LIKE THAT, THE CLAIM VACCINES ARE THE WORLD’S BEST STUDIED PRODUCT DIES

The world’s leading vaccinologist, Dr. Stanley Plotkin, and company have just capitulated…
Wow. After decades of Dr. Stanley Plotkin and his vaccinologist disciples insisting vaccines are the most well studied products on the planet, they just penned an article admitting precisely the opposite.

They just admitted vaccines are not properly studied—neither pre-licensure nor post-licensure. They admitted, for example, “prelicensure clinical trials have limited sample sizes [and] follow-up durations” and that “there are not resources earmarked for postauthorization safety studies.”
That is an incredible reversal. But let me provide context so nobody is fooled at what they are clearly up to:

For decades, the medical community insisted vaccines are the most thoroughly studied product ever; for example, Dr. Paul Offit said, "I think we should be proud of vaccines as arguably the safest, best tested things we put in our body.”

For decades, parents of vaccine injured children, vaccine injured adults, and other stakeholders contested these claims only to be shunned and attacked by the medical community and health agencies.

In 2018, I had the unprecedented opportunity to depose the architect of our vaccination program and the Godfather of Vaccinology, Dr. Plotkin, and lay bare the evidence that showed what these authors are now finally admitting about the utter lack of vaccine safety trials and studies. See https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/the- ... y-plotkin/.

After this deposition is made public, Dr. Plotkin goes on a tirade, making demands that FDA add “missing information on safety and efficacy” in vaccine package inserts and that CDC exclude harms from its Vaccine Information Sheets, “lobbying the Gates Foundation to support pro-vaccine organizations,” working to have WHO list vaccine hesitancy as a global threat, lobbying AAP, IDSA and PIDS to “support training of witnesses” to support vaccine safety, etc. See https://icandecide.org/article/dr-stanl ... uestioned/.

The problem is, it doesn't work. It doesn’t work because, at bottom, there are no proper safety studies. So, there is no safety data to add to the FDA package inserts, and hiding harms by removing them from CDC inserts doesn’t make them go away. Parents and other adults don’t simply stop believing what they have seen with their own eyes because CDC, WHO, the Gates Foundations, etc., won’t acknowledge them, or worse, they attack them.

That brings us to the present in which Plotkin and his disciples realize they can’t cast voodoo on the public. They can’t hide the truth. So, their only option is to try and co-op the truth they have lied about for decades by now admitting that the studies to show vaccines are safe do not exist. But in making that admission, they conveniently fail to admit that for decades they lied, gaslit, defrauded (and I don’t use that word lightly) the public by claiming that vaccines are probably the most thoroughly safety tested products on the planet and that people should rest assured, no stone on vaccine safety was left unturned.

Thus, in their article just published, they pretend they never lied about vaccine safety. They pretend they are now just pointing out vaccine safety has never really been conducted, as if that was not known to them before.

Don’t be fooled. Their real agenda is plain, and it is not to study vaccine safety, but rather to confirm that which they already believe. This is crystal clear from the fact that, while their article admits the studies have not been done, they write in the same breath that serious vaccine harms are “rare.” But if the studies have not been done, how do they know that? The answer is, they don’t, and they don’t care to know the truth. Their goal is to protect the products they have spent their careers defending and worshipping and that have brought them fame and riches.

They also ignore the mountain of studies and data which already exist that clearly show serious vaccine harms. Just take a moment to review the large body of science around one of the adjuvants used in vaccines which multiple studies show can cause serious harm. See https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38788092/.

Finally, just look at their proposed solution. After making the a priori conclusion that harms are “rare,” ignoring all the existing studies showing harm, these folk have the audacity to want to raid the federal vaccine injury compensation fund to presumably pay themselves and their compatriots hundreds of millions of dollars to conduct the studies that would, no doubt, seek to confirm their prior conclusion that vaccine harms are “rare,” while ignoring the studies that already show serious harm.

So, with that in mind, and sorry for the long wind-up, here are the things they admit in this article for maybe the very first time:

“[T]he widespread vaccine hesitancy observed during the Covid-19 pandemic suggests that the public is no longer satisfied with the traditional safety goal of simply detecting and quantifying the associated risks after a vaccine has been authorized for use.”

Comment: The parents of vaccine injured children, vaccine injured adults, and others were never “satisfied” with seeking to assess “risks after a vaccine has been authorized.”

“Postauthorization studies are needed to fully characterize the safety profile of a new vaccine, since prelicensure clinical trials have limited sample sizes, follow up durations, and population heterogeneity.”

Comment: Let me translate: the clinical trials relied upon to license childhood vaccines are useless with regard to safety since they virtually never have a placebo control, typically review safety for days or weeks after injection, and often have far too few participants to measure anything of value, just see www.icandecide.org/no-placebo; amazingly, I just had a dispute with a Plotkin disciple not long ago in which they were clearly still not ready to admit the above truth https://x.com/AaronSiriSG/status/1673483027618623489.

“It is critical to examine adverse events following immunization (AEFIs) that have not been detected in clinical trials, to ascertain whether they are causally or coincidentally related to vaccination.”

Comment: No shit and you have been claiming for decades this was being done!

“When they are caused by vaccines (vaccine adverse reactions), the risk attributable to vaccination and the biologic mechanism must be ascertained. That science becomes the basis for developing safer vaccines, if possible, and for determining contraindications to vaccination and the compensation that should be offered for AEFIs.”

Comment: Again, no shit, and you have also been claiming for decades this was being done!

“Currently in the United States, when the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) recommends a new routine vaccine, the only automatic statutory resource allocations that follow are for vaccine procurement by Vaccines for Children (VFC) and for the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP). Although the ACIP acknowledges the need, there are currently no resources earmarked for postauthorization safety studies beyond annual appropriations, which must be approved by Congress each year.”

Comment: Again, no shit! But nice of you to finally admit it after decades of gaslighting.

“Progress in vaccine-safety science has understandably been slow — often depending on epidemiologic evidence that is delayed or is inadequate to support causal conclusions and on an understanding of biologic mechanisms that is incomplete — which has adversely affected vaccine acceptance.”

Comment: More gaslighting because had a proper clinical trial been conducted pre-licensure, we would know the safety before it is unleashed on babies and we wouldn’t need to rely on confounded-biased-conflicted-post-authorization “epidemiological” studies you now want to conduct which you make clear you only suggest because you want to avoid “public concern and consequent decreases in immunization coverage,” not because you actually care about safety.

“In 234 reviews of various vaccines and health outcomes conducted from 1991 to 2012, the IOM found inadequate evidence to prove or disprove causation in 179 (76%) of the relationships it explored, illustrating the need for more rigorous science.”

Comment: Again, no shit, and I would appreciate if you would please properly cite to the ICAN white paper from 2017 from which you have plainly lifted this point https://icandecide.org/wp-content/uploa ... 2017-1.pdf.

“Identifying the biologic mechanisms of adverse reactions — how and in whom they occur — is critical for developing safer vaccines, preventing adverse reactions by expanding contraindications, and equitably compensating vaccinees for true adverse reactions.”

Comment: Shameless to pretend you have not for decades ignored or attacked those calling for these studies while pretending a mountain of such studies showing the foregoing don’t already exist.

“[T]he budget for vaccine-safety monitoring at the CDC (which is responsible for the majority of U.S. federal efforts) has remained stagnant … at about $20 million per year” which they write is an “inadequate level of funding.”

Comment: Again, shameless to pretend parent groups have not been yelling about this issue for decades only to be ignored and attacked.

“The public [now] also wants public health authorities to mitigate and prevent rare but serious adverse events – which no longer seem rare when vaccines are given to millions or billions of people.”

Comment: They have always been given to millions or billions of people, and the studies showing the harms they cause are not rare and they already exist, but you don’t really care about that reality as vaccine safety is not really the goal.

If they are really interested in the truth about what injuries vaccines cause and the rate at which these injuries occur, then they should welcome convening a bipartisan panel which could first review all the very concerning studies and hard data that already exists on this topic (often by scientists not on pharma’s dole) and we could design additional studies together and have them run in the open so everybody has to live with the result.

(Among other reasons to demand the study be conducted in the open is that I have witnessed firsthand what happens when a study comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated children in large multi-million person datasets, using historical insurance data, showed vaccinated children had multiple times the rate of numerous chronic diseases – the study gets buried hence the need to do it in the open.)

Plotkin and company should welcome studies which can show vaccines have not contributed to the rise in chronic childhood disease (many of which are immune mediated diseases) from 12% of children in the early 1980s (when CDC recommended 7 routine childhood injections) to over 50% of children now (when CDC recommends over 90 routine childhood injections).

And I think they do welcome such studies if they can assure that the outcome would show vaccines do not cause these harms. Alas, the reality is that (as they know) studies showing vaccines contribute to this rise already exist. But their goal, in any event, is not to really study safety. Rather it is to prove their prior assumption that vaccines are safe and harms are “rare.” This approach is how they designed VAERS, V-SAFE, VSD, and every other “safety” system.

As is transparent from their article, the only reason they even pretend to care about vaccine safety is that they want to avoid reduction in vaccine uptake – not actually assure safety.

That all said, if they are really well-meaning, I would welcome collaborating. To be fair, I will email all four of them to request a meeting to review existing science and design studies mutually agreed upon. If they are really interested in vaccine safety, they should welcome that (I have no hard feelings despite their attacks on me and I hope they can rise above any hard feelings they have for the sake of protecting children). Most importantly, I'm willing to live with the results of those studies. Are they?
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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