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by Bob Butler
Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:41 pm
Forum: Theology
Topic: Abortion
Replies: 294
Views: 5830099

Re: Abortion

Tucker Carlson just reported that the Democrats at the state of the Union address last night were not worrying American flag pins. instead, they were worrying pins that say the word "abortion" , with a heart replacing the o' s. Not all Democrats, but Senator Ed Markey (D MA) wore such a pin. The pi...
by Bob Butler
Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:11 pm
Forum: Theology
Topic: Abortion
Replies: 294
Views: 5830099

On definitions of bigotry

It is obvious that the people on this thread are characterized by a combination of anti-Catholic bigotry and a desire to be able to rut like animals without being responsible for the babies they are creating. Maybe it is OK to hate child abusers and their protectors. Maybe it is OK to hate those th...
by Bob Butler
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:52 am
Forum: Theology
Topic: Abortion
Replies: 294
Views: 5830099

Bash...

It is obvious that the people on this thread are characterized by a combination of anti-Catholic bigotry and a desire to be able to rut like animals without being responsible for the babies they are creating. Anyone aware of Catholic history would be aware that they haven't always been a bunch of s...
by Bob Butler
Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:42 am
Forum: Theology
Topic: Abortion
Replies: 294
Views: 5830099

Sapient

BB, the growth of a human from zygote to maturity is a continuous, not discrete, process. You are almost identical day to day, but much different decade to decade. A zygote is pre-sapient (on a timescale of years) just as you are repeatedly pre-sapient (on a timescale of hours) each night. Murderin...
by Bob Butler
Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:34 am
Forum: Theology
Topic: Abortion
Replies: 294
Views: 5830099

Oppression

Guest BLM is not a religion. There is no supernatural force to worship. It is a effort of one group to escape the control of another group, like Ukraine, like the pro life women, like the Muslim migrants to Europe, like stopping the fascist invasions, like stopping the slaveholders, like achieving i...
by Bob Butler
Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:58 pm
Forum: Theology
Topic: Abortion
Replies: 294
Views: 5830099

Re: Abortion

Prove that a fetus is not sapient. Obviously you don't care about humanity. And as for religious, I gave you a link with five arguments OUTSIDE of religion against abortion. Now you want me to prove a negative? It is the positive proposition that is usually to be proven, and for good reason. And I ...
by Bob Butler
Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:24 pm
Forum: Theology
Topic: Abortion
Replies: 294
Views: 5830099

Re: Abortion

Again, the religious fanatics are being allowed to practice their beliefs. There is no attempt to change their culture. A fetus is not sapient. You have yet to identify a property of sapience or humanity which a fetus has. The fetus is a fetal human, that is the property of humanity it has...humann...
by Bob Butler
Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:53 am
Forum: Theology
Topic: Abortion
Replies: 294
Views: 5830099

Re: Moral relativism?

People want moral absolutes, not moral relativism. I am seeing the opposite. People are moving from religious to secular perspectives. The religious inflexibility which John’s mother represents is becoming less popular. In issues like prejudice, conquest and abortion, the controlling other’s cultur...
by Bob Butler
Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:26 am
Forum: Fourth Turning Forum
Topic: Polyticks: Bob Butler's Perspective
Replies: 1193
Views: 501660

Controlling other cultures

In the abortion thread, I recently characterized the issues of prejudice, conquest and abortion as the bad guys trying to impose their culture on their victims. This does simplify things, combining some issues of the crisis into one. This got me thinking. Could you look at the issues of the three pr...
by Bob Butler
Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:16 am
Forum: Theology
Topic: Abortion
Replies: 294
Views: 5830099

Liar Tom?

And again, slaveholders and religious fanatics are trying to change other's culture against their will. Women and slaves are not. They are the victims. We are beginning to repeat ourselves. Argumentum ad nauseam is starting to come up. If you keep on saying the same thing over and over, that does n...