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Re: 22-May-17 World View -- North Korea test-fires another ballistic missile / Socialist Venezuela

by John » Sun May 28, 2017 9:27 pm

Guest wrote: > Why can't the Americans just accept that North Korea is now a
> nuclear power. The regime is described as 'homicidal but not
> suicidal'. Why not ignore them?
Why are so many people close to hysteria over climate change?
Irrational panic and hysteria make the world go 'round.

Of course, it IS inevitable that NK will develop a nuclear-tipped
missile capable of delivering a nuclear weapon to the US mainland.

Re: 22-May-17 World View -- North Korea test-fires another ballistic missile / Socialist Venezuela

by Guest » Sun May 28, 2017 9:06 pm

Why can't the Americans just accept that North Korea is now a nuclear power. The regime is described as 'homicidal but not suicidal'. Why not ignore them?

Re: 22-May-17 World View -- North Korea test-fires another ballistic missile / Socialist Venezuela

by John » Sun May 28, 2017 1:35 pm

Guest 5 wrote: > What do you make of this, John?

> https://www.voanews.com/a/third-naval-s ... 73637.html

> Sources: 3rd US Naval Strike Force Deployed to Deter North
> Korea

> The United States is sending a third aircraft carrier strike force
> to the western Pacific region in an apparent warning to North
> Korea to deter its ballistic missile and nuclear programs, two
> sources have told VOA.

> The USS Nimitz, one of the world’s largest warships, will join two
> other supercarriers, the USS Carl Vinson and the USS Ronald
> Reagan, in the western Pacific, the sources told VOA's Steve
> Herman.

> The U.S. military has rarely simultaneously deployed three
> aircraft carriers to the same region.
Well, it's impossible to predict what any individual will do, and that
certainly includes politicians. So Trump may order some kind of
attack on North Korea, and thus trigger a major new Korean war, and
subsequently a world war. My personal belief is that three aircraft
carriers are there to pressure NK politically, and that the actions
are being taken with the cooperation of the Chinese, and possibly even
the Russians.

For example, one scenario short of an attack is that China and the US
are playing good cop / bad cop. Anyway, we'll just have to wait and
see. Probably we'll know by the end of the week.

Re: 22-May-17 World View -- North Korea test-fires another ballistic missile / Socialist Venezuela

by Guest 5 » Sun May 28, 2017 10:22 am

What do you make of this, John?

https://www.voanews.com/a/third-naval-s ... 73637.html
Sources: 3rd US Naval Strike Force Deployed to Deter North Korea

The United States is sending a third aircraft carrier strike force to the western Pacific region in an apparent warning to North Korea to deter its ballistic missile and nuclear programs, two sources have told VOA.

The USS Nimitz, one of the world’s largest warships, will join two other supercarriers, the USS Carl Vinson and the USS Ronald Reagan, in the western Pacific, the sources told VOA's Steve Herman.

The U.S. military has rarely simultaneously deployed three aircraft carriers to the same region.

Re: 22-May-17 World View -- North Korea test-fires another ballistic missile / Socialist Venezuela

by shoshin » Fri May 26, 2017 12:35 pm

John, " inciteful, not insightful "!

I love it! Thanks again for being there.

Re: 22-May-17 World View -- North Korea test-fires another ballistic missile / Socialist Venezuela

by Guest 5 » Fri May 26, 2017 4:16 am

John wrote:
Guest 5 wrote: > It looks like the war is on.

> http://www.businessinsider.com/us-attac ... ays-2017-5

>
The US is preparing to attack North Korea, according to
> Geopolitical Futures founder George Friedman — setting the stage
> for a difficult, messy war with potentially catastrophic
> consequences.

> Speaking Monday to a rapt audience at the 2017 Strategic
> Investment Conference in Orlando, Friedman said that while it was
> unlikely the US would take action before President Donald Trump
> returns home at the weekend, North Korea's actions appeared to
> have "offered the US no alternative" to a clash.
> I guess this is it.

> How does it feel to get this one right?


The story is told that the way that the Olde Farmer's Almanac became
a best seller for centuries is that they predicted a snowstorm for
mid-June, and by chance the prediction came true.
The version I heard said it was July and that the prediction was a misprint.

I hope you are right. I don't want a nuclear war.

Re: 22-May-17 World View -- North Korea test-fires another ballistic missile / Socialist Venezuela

by John » Thu May 25, 2017 7:22 pm

Guest 5 wrote: > It looks like the war is on.

> http://www.businessinsider.com/us-attac ... ays-2017-5

>
The US is preparing to attack North Korea, according to
> Geopolitical Futures founder George Friedman — setting the stage
> for a difficult, messy war with potentially catastrophic
> consequences.

> Speaking Monday to a rapt audience at the 2017 Strategic
> Investment Conference in Orlando, Friedman said that while it was
> unlikely the US would take action before President Donald Trump
> returns home at the weekend, North Korea's actions appeared to
> have "offered the US no alternative" to a clash.
> I guess this is it.

> How does it feel to get this one right?
George Friedman's prediction is silly. Friedman has no special
expertise on North Korea that I'm aware of. Friedman has no clue what
Trump is going to do in North Korea. I doubt that Trump himself
knows.

According to wikipedia, Friedman in 1991 co-authored a book called
"The Coming War with Japan." I rarely read Friedman's stuff, but what
I've seen is not particularly insightful.

Here's my guess: Friedman is making this prediction to get publicity
for himself and Mauldin -- which means that it's inciteful, not
insightful. He's hoping that something will happen so that he can
claim to be the only one who saw it coming, and then he'll be a big
winner. And if nothing happens, then the prediction will be quickly
forgotten, because Friedman is well-loved. (I say this snarkily
because I know from personal experience that getting predictions right
only makes you hated.)

The story is told that the way that the Olde Farmer's Almanac became
a best seller for centuries is that they predicted a snowstorm for
mid-June, and by chance the prediction came true.

Re: 22-May-17 World View -- North Korea test-fires another ballistic missile / Socialist Venezuela

by Guest 5 » Thu May 25, 2017 9:55 am

It looks like the war is on.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-attac ... ays-2017-5
The US is preparing to attack North Korea, according to Geopolitical Futures founder George Friedman — setting the stage for a difficult, messy war with potentially catastrophic consequences.

Speaking Monday to a rapt audience at the 2017 Strategic Investment Conference in Orlando, Friedman said that while it was unlikely the US would take action before President Donald Trump returns home at the weekend, North Korea's actions appeared to have "offered the US no alternative" to a clash.
I guess this is it.

How does it feel to get this one right?

Re: 22-May-17 World View -- North Korea test-fires another ballistic missile / Socialist Venezuela

by Guest » Mon May 22, 2017 11:06 pm

Geoffrey Britain wrote:I'm not especially concerned with biologicals because of the natural barriers to their effectiveness. My admittedly layman's understanding is that deadliness and effective transmission are opposed. To be an effective biological weapon of mass destruction, the death rate must be high enough to ensure societal collapse. But the higher the death rate the quicker it burns out, which naturally limits the spread. Look at ebola in Africa which self-extinguished. Once it hit a village, not enough left to effectively transmit it to other villages.

Evidently biologicals are a very tough nut to crack, which is not to say it can't be done.
Weaponized Ebola would kill billions.

Re: 22-May-17 World View -- North Korea test-fires another ballistic missile / Socialist Venezuela

by Geoffrey Britain » Mon May 22, 2017 10:14 pm

I'm not especially concerned with biologicals because of the natural barriers to their effectiveness. My admittedly layman's understanding is that deadliness and effective transmission are opposed. To be an effective biological weapon of mass destruction, the death rate must be high enough to ensure societal collapse. But the higher the death rate the quicker it burns out, which naturally limits the spread. Look at ebola in Africa which self-extinguished. Once it hit a village, not enough left to effectively transmit it to other villages.

Evidently biologicals are a very tough nut to crack, which is not to say it can't be done.

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