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[quote="Tom Mazanec"]Someone who knows:
Yeah, I see what you know.
Hillary lost more electors than Trump.[/quote]

I think you may be missing the point. That the election has been so contested at all, based on (possible/supposed) Russian hacking, is already a victory for Putin. The allegations against Putin and Trump have created a lot of discord in the country. Also, Hillary voters have not given up trying to derail Trump's Presidency. That the Electoral College worked is a sign that America's institutions are still functioning (for the moment). However, that does not mean that Trump is in the clear. [u]Not yet. [/u] And if the social and political discord continue, could the country become ungovernable?

I think it is also strange that Hillary's supporters are only upset the emails were leaked, [u]not the gross criminality exposed in them. [/u]

Shows what you know.

Someone who knows:
Yeah, I see what you know.
Hillary lost more electors than Trump.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-14/us-accuses-vladimir-putin-personal-involvement-election-hack

About the possible Deep State coup against President-elect Trump. Zero Hedge makes a good observation:

"Well, if Obama is truly getting involved, he has 4 days in which to turn 37 Republican electors against Trump.[i] As for the potential fallout, which may include various forms of social conflict [/i]should the Trump victory be overturned in the 11th hour at the Electoral College, [b]then Putin will truly win as a result of what may then follow.[/b]"

[quote="John"]No.[/quote]

I think you are wrong on this one. It looks like efforts are underway to overturn the election results.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-officials-putin-personally-involved-u-s-election-hack-n696146

No.

[u]Do you expect any European countries to break-up?[/u]

Italy has the Northern League, which advocates the independence of Northern Italy. There is also a strong independence movement in Venice. This crisis has exacerbated the situation, with northern provinces decrying the financial drain of the southern ones. Does anyone think Italy could break up?

I think Germany could break up. East Germany seems ready to bolt.

Vladimir Putin would support independence movements in Europe.

[u]What do you think of the "fake news" stories circulating?[/u]

I listen to a lot of alternative media sources, but I hate Putin and the Russians. I think some of the alternative media is naive, but not necessarily on the Kremlin's payroll. Just more useful idiots buying the Russian line. I have a lot of experience with the Russians, Putin, and the Russian 'government', such as it is; and that organization is a criminal gang, not anything close to what Westerners would consider a legitimate government.

[u]Also, do you think the Kremlin election hacking story will get traction? [/u]

Could they overturn the election results?

13-Dec-16 World View -- Italy's bank crisis seems likely to cost thousands of people their savings


Egypt's Christians demand revenge after Sunday's church bombing

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Contents:
Egypt's Christians demand revenge after Sunday's church bombing
Italy's bank crisis seems likely to cost thousands of people their savings


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Egypt, Cairo, St. Mark's Cathedral,
Pope Tawadros II, Abdel al-Fattah al-Sisi, Muslim Brotherhood,
Islamic State / of Iraq and Syria/Sham/the Levant, IS, ISIS, ISIL, Daesh,
Italy, Matteo Renzi, Paolo Gentiloni, European Central Bank,
Banco Monte dei Paschi di Siena, MPS