by NoOneImportant » Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:03 am
...I will work with our partners to identify and organize those members of the opposition who share our values...
A nice thought. But the true underlying question is: do any of these crazies share our values? We are living in a truly unusual time, as few realize that the lion's share of those who come from the Middle East want nothing other than our deaths - they are without equivocation not "just like us."
I grew up in Dearborn, Michigan, and went to Fordson High School, it was almost 1/3 Muslim in the mid 1960s, and is virtually 100% Muslim now - Dearborn has the largest Muslim community in America. Not knowing a lot at the time, I found Muslims to be generally belligerent, and prone to instigate conflict. I later got a second dose of Muslims as I spent a year in rural Turkey - the most advanced of the Muslim nations - before, during, and after the six day Arab-Israeli war in 1967; a war which Turkey prudently refrained from participating in, although tensions ran high in Turkey for Turkey to enter on the Arab side. That year was an experience directly out of the 10th century. It is strange how clearly I remember what took place at the end of that year almost a life time ago: as I was exiting Turkey, I quietly mused as I gazed out the window of the airplane that was lifting off from Ankara airport: "... now I understand what took place in high school; ... if these people ever get money the world is in deep trouble."
Well now they have money and like a cancer they have spread to the west - everyone believing in the ridiculous myth: "... they're just like us." To understand their mind set it needs to be understood that they hate simply for the sake of hating - if one cannot build, one can certainly destroy. The mind set is foreign to westerners, but there are analogs; the closest thing that we have that might help us to understand this mind set is the Hatfield and McCoy feud - one hates the other simply because they are. So why should you care?
Because Romney is making the same foundational mistake all westerners make. He/they believe that those raised in the Middle East are just like us. But they aren't just like us, there is no foundational cultural impetus to create. They do not have an ingrained Judeo - Christian cultural, moral, and philosophical mental underpinning. They come from a culture where feuds last for hundreds, and sometimes thousands of years - the rational is to hate just because they are. There is no geographic mixing, there is no dissipation of antipathy over time, there is no greater cause to be aspired to - the society is tribal in the most primitive sense of the word - a fact that explains their abject failure or desire to assimilate. And thus it must be clearly understood:
they are not just like us.
[quote][/quote]...I will work with our partners to identify and organize those members of the opposition who share our values... [quote][/quote]
A nice thought. But the true underlying question is: do any of these crazies share our values? We are living in a truly unusual time, as few realize that the lion's share of those who come from the Middle East want nothing other than our deaths - they are without equivocation not "just like us."
I grew up in Dearborn, Michigan, and went to Fordson High School, it was almost 1/3 Muslim in the mid 1960s, and is virtually 100% Muslim now - Dearborn has the largest Muslim community in America. Not knowing a lot at the time, I found Muslims to be generally belligerent, and prone to instigate conflict. I later got a second dose of Muslims as I spent a year in rural Turkey - the most advanced of the Muslim nations - before, during, and after the six day Arab-Israeli war in 1967; a war which Turkey prudently refrained from participating in, although tensions ran high in Turkey for Turkey to enter on the Arab side. That year was an experience directly out of the 10th century. It is strange how clearly I remember what took place at the end of that year almost a life time ago: as I was exiting Turkey, I quietly mused as I gazed out the window of the airplane that was lifting off from Ankara airport: "... now I understand what took place in high school; ... if these people ever get money the world is in deep trouble."
Well now they have money and like a cancer they have spread to the west - everyone believing in the ridiculous myth: "... they're just like us." To understand their mind set it needs to be understood that they hate simply for the sake of hating - if one cannot build, one can certainly destroy. The mind set is foreign to westerners, but there are analogs; the closest thing that we have that might help us to understand this mind set is the Hatfield and McCoy feud - one hates the other simply because they are. So why should you care?
Because Romney is making the same foundational mistake all westerners make. He/they believe that those raised in the Middle East are just like us. But they aren't just like us, there is no foundational cultural impetus to create. They do not have an ingrained Judeo - Christian cultural, moral, and philosophical mental underpinning. They come from a culture where feuds last for hundreds, and sometimes thousands of years - the rational is to hate just because they are. There is no geographic mixing, there is no dissipation of antipathy over time, there is no greater cause to be aspired to - the society is tribal in the most primitive sense of the word - a fact that explains their abject failure or desire to assimilate. And thus it must be clearly understood: [b][u][color=#FF0000]they are not just like us[/color][/u][/b].