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Re: Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

by Higgenbotham » Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:44 pm

Status is not an abstraction. For most people, it’s an essential ingredient of their identity. Gaining status is disorienting and disruptive, but it has obvious benefits, and most people get used to it in due time. Losing status? Not so much. Rather, it’s felt as a catastrophe, both in practical terms and in the impact on identity. If you’re used to thinking of yourself as one of the important people, the ones whose opinions matter and whose needs and wants ought to be taken into account by everyone else, finding out that this isn’t the case any more is a shattering blow. We can describe the result as status panic. It’s a profoundly traumatic experience.

What makes this especially agonizing is that the members of every privileged class end up thinking of themselves as the natural rulers of society, who deserve the unquestioning obedience and respect of the lower orders. They forget the mordant lesson Arnold Toynbee tried to teach them, which is that the rest of society tolerates privileged classes only so long as they provide effective solutions to collective problems. This is precisely what the laptop class has failed to do in recent decades. No matter what the problem is, the response is to hire more bureaucrats and commission more studies—a move that benefits the laptop class considerably, of course, but doesn’t do a blessed thing to remedy problems that are pressing down with ever more force on the rest of us.

That’s why every scenario spun these days by the laptop class and its penumbra of writers and bloggers ends with Trump being driven from the presidency so that the laptop class can return to power. No other outcome is imaginable to them. When news of the Russian Revolution was brought to Nicholas II, the last Tsar of Russia, at his comfortably secluded palace at Tsarskoe Selo, he is said to have responded in baffled and plaintive tones: “But the Russian people love me!” In much the same way, as the less violent revolution now under way comes to the attention of the current elite in its equally secluded virtual palace—call it Bourgeoiskoe Selo—they’re incapable of grasping that the vast majority of people are sick of their mismanagement of society, and are cheering Trump on as he fires bureaucrats by the job lot.

Nor, to be frank, is any other option available at this point. The United States is effectively bankrupt, having run itself trillions of dollars in debt to pay for all those bureaucrats and studies that the laptop class cheered on.
In the meantime, of course, the rest of us have to deal with a laptop class in the midst of full-blown status panic, flailing around frantically in an attempt to convince themselves that some sequence of events or other will restore them to their supposedly rightful place as masters of the world. I’d encourage my readers not to take any of those flailings personally. The people in question are going through a traumatic shift in self-image, battered by reactions that date from before our ancestors first crawled up onto dry land. While they’re incapacitated, it’ll be up to the rest of us to think about what realistically can be done to deal with the turbulent future bearing down upon us—a future that hasn’t been improved, and in some ways has been seriously worsened, by the gyrations of a decadent elite on its way out history’s exit doors.
https://www.ecosophia.net/a-brief-guide ... tus-panic/

Re: Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

by Higgenbotham » Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:16 pm

Higgenbotham wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 12:45 am
Gates is optimistic about the overall benefits AI can provide to humanity...

"But in terms of making things and moving things and growing food, over time those will be basically solved problems,” Gates said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/26/bill-ga ... hings.html

What seemed to come up in search is that Bill Gates sees AI as being able to accelerate the development of heat tolerant crops, as well as drought and flood tolerant crops. This seems like a reasonable goal, though probably better achieved by doing something other than screwing with plant genomes. But I'm not sure that that alone will make growing food, over time, a basically solved problem.
Will he add microplastic tolerant crops to the list? Surely AI can figure that one out too, right?
Higgenbotham wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:37 pm
John wrote:It's somewhat bemusing that even people who don't hate me still
don't believe what I'm writing about.

Yes, it's possible that the Singularity won't occur.
I searched all my posts for the word "singularity". The first one that had the word in it was a reply to you where you mentioned it, but I didn't respond to that part of your post. In 2014, I finally brought it up in this post:
Higgenbotham wrote: Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:09 pmI have some thoughts about the singularity, assuming it really does happen. Most who discuss the singularity seem to think that when the computers become smarter than the humans they will begin to solve all of our problems. Let's take a recent problem I read about as an example. Plastics are accumulating in the oceans as we know, but a lesser known problem is the plastics are degrading into fine particles that resemble sand and getting into the food chain that way. Most seem to assume that when the singularity hits the computers will just say, OK, we have figured out how to get this plastic out of the environment for little cost - here is what you do. Having studied another branch of engineering, my experience says things don't always work that way. With regard to some problems, the computers could just as easily come back with the answer that there is no solution that doesn't violate natural laws and the humans are trapped, they let it go too far. Upon hearing that, I think the humans would say the computers are lying to us and trying to outmaneuver us so they can inherit the earth, and then a war between the computers and the humans would ensue.
Our culture is steeped in the belief that every technical problem has a solution that can be implemented once the requisite knowledge is unveiled. Knowledge is not the limiting factor in all cases. As knowledge expands and the knowledge is put to use, it requires more energy and that is the limit that can constrain a technical solution. In the case referred to, there could be a life form invented that could preferentially separate the plastic but the biomass required may not be energetically achievable within the time frame required to prevent die-off.

Re: Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

by Higgenbotham » Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:51 am

Prior research has shown that microplastics have made their way to nearly every ecosystem on the planet, and now contaminate plants and animals, including humans. For this new study, the research team wondered if microplastics might have an unknown impact on plants living in the ocean, in fresh water or growing on land, and they conducted a study of prior research to find out.

The team suspected that microplastics might have a direct impact on the ability of plants to engage in photosynthesis. To that end, they searched the literature using an AI app and found 157 studies that mentioned both microplastics and impacts on photosynthesis, which included 3,286 observations.

Combining the results, the researchers calculated that microplastics reduced photosynthetic efficiency across all three plant types by 7% to 12% and caused reductions in production of chlorophyll. Such percentages, they suggest, result in approximately 4% to 14% harvest yield losses of maize, wheat and rice around the globe. They also suggest that microplastics account for up to 7% of losses in global aquatic net primary productivity.

The research team notes that the problem appears to be worsening, which will impact crop production even more. They further suggest that if the problem is not reversed, the result could be a major increase in the number of people at risk of starvation over the next two decades.
https://phys.org/news/2025-03-microplas ... pting.html

From a practical standpoint, I try to incorporate plastic and microplastic reduction into my routine. So, for example, I collect rainwater in metal garbage cans. Once collected, it stands for a few days and theoretically the microplastics should mostly either float or sink. When I'm ready to use it, I skim off the top inch or so and dump it, then use the rest on the garden except for the bottom couple inches, which also gets dumped.

I haven't seen any evidence of it, but it would seem reasonable to think that maintaining healthy soil would help with microplastic reduction.

Re: Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

by Higgenbotham » Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:02 am

FullMoon wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:10 pm For me, the more pressing issue is the population drop scenario. If such a sizeable percentage doesn't make it until plastics really are known to be dangerous, that sizeable number includes me and my family. The difficulties we'll face will make just making through dwarf any environmental concerns. I taught English abroad to students who came from pretty bad poverty. They always chose economic growth over environmental concerns because they were afraid of the effects of poverty more than the pollution economic growth brought. As an American, I found it astounding because even back then environmental protection was an important consideration. But not for them. Surviving and trying to rebuild will probably change perspectives quickly.even though we're infested with toxic plastics.
That reminds me of this post:
Higgenbotham wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:20 pm HEB is the top grocery chain in Texas by market share. About 15 years ago, the local HEB opened a wellness section and put a manager in charge of it. She didn't seem to have much to do. One day we had a discussion about GMO and after that I thought to ask her something that would give me some insight into current conditions (at that time). I asked her when people get concerned about the issues she was discussing, when do they seek you out and talk to you. I remember her answer clear as a bell: "When they get sick."
How seriously people will take environmental issues will be in proportion to how sick they get from the pollution. With, let's say, 15% of young couples currently experiencing infertility, that would have to increase a lot before people get concerned. First, and I think I heard whispers of this a few weeks ago, there will be talk of increasing funding for ART like IVF.
Expanding Access to In Vitro Fertilization
The White House
February 18, 2025

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1. Purpose and Policy. Today, many hopeful couples dream of starting a family, but as many as one in seven are unable to conceive a child. Despite their hopes and efforts, infertility struggles can make conception difficult, turning what should be a joyful experience into an emotional and financial struggle. My Administration recognizes the importance of family formation, and as a Nation, our public policy must make it easier for loving and longing mothers and fathers to have children.

In vitro fertilization (IVF) offers hope to men and women experiencing fertility challenges. Americans need reliable access to IVF and more affordable treatment options, as the cost per cycle can range from $12,000 to $25,000. Providing support, awareness, and access to affordable fertility treatments can help these families navigate their path to parenthood with hope and confidence.

Therefore, to support American families, it is the policy of my Administration to ensure reliable access to IVF treatment, including by easing unnecessary statutory or regulatory burdens to make IVF treatment drastically more affordable.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential ... ilization/

When that fails to work or gets too expensive for the majority, then people will get concerned. Same for any other health related problem.

I've speculated that will be around 2045, though, like I said, it's really going out on a limb to try to give a year or level of severity. All I can really say is things will get worse before they get better.
Higgenbotham wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:54 pm Fourth generation: (born around 2045 plus or minus a few more years) Now really going out on a limb. Transgenerational effects in the mainstream American culture are now so severe that fertility and lifespan are affected to the point that it is evident mainstream culture is no longer viable. In most cases, disorders are so severe as to be irreversible and in many cases untreatable.
Higgenbotham wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:49 pm Life during the coming dark age will be similar to the last dark age but worse due to environmental damage and pollution.
Certainly, the Microsoft study 2 posts above shows that virtually no American worker has time to thoroughly educate themselves on environmental issues even if they want to.

Re: Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

by Higgenbotham » Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:24 pm

Higgenbotham wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:13 pm Also, I think that once the numbers of births start to decline, that is the point at which the rate of physical expansion of the civilization also starts to slow down and, therefore, traditional male activities like building infrastructure begin to decline and the civilization enters into a maintenance phase before the inevitable decline. The mix of jobs begins to change and women are able to better do many of the jobs that become prominent during the maintenance and decline phase (like health care and education, which really just serve to milk out the surplus of the civilization before it collapses). This shift in the job mix has the effect of accelerating the decline (further reducing births and the effects that result from the further reduction in births).
Some interesting related details in this recent news article:
The Research Triangle is one of the many places across the US that has doubled down on higher education and health care institutions — often dubbed the “eds and meds” approach — as a way to drive economic growth.
Duke University, which between its university and health system employs some 50,000 people, is the second largest private-sector employer in the state. It’s seeking to slash $350 million in spending to prepare for federal funding cuts, the threat of fewer international students and a potential endowment tax.
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The job cuts announced in and around the Research Triangle related to federal funding so far aren’t large enough to throw the region’s economy off course, said Matthew Martin, a regional executive at the Richmond Fed.
The area’s richness in biopharmaceuticals, global health, research “didn’t happen by accident,” San Martin said. “That was the result of decades of consistent investment by the US government in these important areas.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets ... 8e39&ei=13

Re: Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

by Higgenbotham » Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:14 pm

American workers are stuck in an 'infinite workday,' according to Microsoft report: 'People are feeling very burnt out'

Story by Sophie Caldwell • 9h • 3 min read

If you've ever complained that the modern workday is unending, you may be right.

According to a new report from Microsoft, employees are now experiencing an "infinite workday" of constant emails, meetings and notifications. They check their emails as early as 6 a.m., juggle meetings through the afternoon and then stay online well into the night.

Simply put, "it's a very long day," says Alexia Cambon, senior research director at Microsoft.

Beyond the extended hours, workers are beset with notifications. According to Microsoft's data, employees are interrupted every two minutes by meetings, emails or messages, and receive an average of 117 emails and 153 Teams messages each workday.

As a result, people are feeling overwhelmed: 48% of employees and 52% of leaders reported that work feels "chaotic and fragmented" in Microsoft's Work Trend Index survey, and 80% of global workers said they lack sufficient time and energy to do their work.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers ... 200c&ei=12

Re: Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

by FullMoon » Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:10 pm

For me, the more pressing issue is the population drop scenario. If such a sizeable percentage doesn't make it until plastics really are known to be dangerous, that sizeable number includes me and my family. The difficulties we'll face will make just making through dwarf any environmental concerns. I taught English abroad to students who came from pretty bad poverty. They always chose economic growth over environmental concerns because they were afraid of the effects of poverty more than the pollution economic growth brought. As an American, I found it astounding because even back then environmental protection was an important consideration. But not for them. Surviving and trying to rebuild will probably change perspectives quickly.even though we're infested with toxic plastics.

Re: Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

by Higgenbotham » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:32 am

“If we have these contaminants in our rainwater they’re getting into our groundwater,” Brahney said. “They’re infiltrating our soils. Every organism is interacting with rainwater.”

Ultimately, what all of this research reveals is that the planet is dirty, even if the filth can be hard to see. These chemicals are in the rain because they’re abundant in the environment — and they’re in the environment because they’re in the rain. And while there’s ongoing research, we don’t yet fully understand how those pollutants impact our bodies and our ecosystems. We just know they’ll be around for a very, very long time.

“To be honest, I cry, because there’s no walking this back,” Brahney said of microplastic pollution. “These particles don’t break down at a time scale that would be relevant. So yeah, we’re not escaping that.”
https://www.vox.com/climate/401600/pfas ... ution-rain

I suspect about 80 years from now there will be a subgroup of humans somewhere that will measure decreasing levels of microplastics in the bodies of their children versus the previous generation. That's about as optimistic as I can get.

Re: Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

by FullMoon » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:16 pm

They've shown UV does good work on plastic. Plus just consider time scale. They'll be gone quickly. Probably faster than these crazy war mongering people.

Re: Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

by Higgenbotham » Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:40 pm

OK, so I have a 25 year old Toyota and it's a great car overall. It has a lot of plastic in it. The plastic makes it light weight and it gets great fuel mileage. Still gets 30 mpg overall in city driving.

The 1967 independent film The Graduate was the highest grossing film of that year and, adjusted for inflation, is the 22nd highest grossing film in the US. It is widely regarded as one of the greatest and most influential films. This is a quote from the film:

Mr. McGuire: I just want to say one word to you. Just one word.
Benjamin: Yes, sir.
Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
Benjamin: Yes, I am.
Mr. McGuire: Plastics.
Benjamin: Exactly how do you mean?
Mr. McGuire: There's a great future in plastics. Think about it. Will you think about it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSxihhBzCjk

Plastic has been regarded to be great for a lot of things, fuel economy being only one of them. And from circa 1971, fuel economy was considered essential. To maintain industrial civilization the way we were used to it, we needed cars that got better fuel economy and plastic helped us do that.
In response to the oil price shocks of the early 1970s, Congress passed the nation's first fuel economy standards in 1975. The law called for a doubling of passenger vehicle efficiency—to 27.5 miles per gallon—within 10 years.
https://www.pew.org/~/media/Assets/2007 ... conomy.pdf

A few weeks ago, the manual door lock on this Toyota stopped unlocking and locking when the key was turned. Turned out a tiny plastic part called a door rod lock clip had broken off. A locksmith who could stick his camera inside the door was the one who found out what the problem was. He then tried to disassemble the door to get to it. When he got to just the second step, the plastic was too brittle for him to easily disassemble it and he said it was close to breaking. He said maybe he could get it done in an hour. At that point, I asked him to stop and said I would disassemble it and get the part, then he could finish the job. He was happy to have me do that. I spent about 1 hour 40 minutes getting everything apart and was able to get the pieces out he was having trouble with intact. However, the door panel was lined with a piece of plastic that has deteriorated badly. Probably I can patch it up and get everything back together OK.

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So while that piece of plastic and others served everyone well during the maintenance phase, now we have to deal with all the deteriorating plastic and its unintended consequences, including maintenance issues, health issues due to plastic related breakdown products - toxins used as additives, microplastics, and nanoplastics - and who knows what else. It's only recently that microplastics and nanoplastics are even being looked at in any detail. My spell check on this site is even showing that, while microplastics is a word, nanoplastics is not yet.

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