by Higgenbotham » Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:21 pm
This is a conversation between an Indian and a Jew. I've been meaning to comment on it but hadn't gotten around to it (and a lot of other things as I have put prepping for the collapse as top priority).
00:03:00 [Barry Ritholtz] I read a quote from you way back when you said your parents were pushing you to be either an engineer or a doctor. Is this true? I mean, it’s such a cliche. Indian parents, Jewish parents, go to school, become a doctor.
Savita Subramanian: Well, I mean, there’s a reason it’s a cliche. It’s pretty much the norm. I mean, it happened to, like me and everybody I know who’s a, you know, child of a, an immigrant from India. So it’s kind of, I mean, I think it was, you know, it was the seventies. It was unclear how anybody was gonna make their living. My parents were both in high tech. My dad was an engineer and my mom was a software person, so...
Oh, really?
Yeah. They were both steeped in technology. We
00:03:42 [Speaker Changed] Lived in Silicon Valley.
00:03:43 [Speaker Changed] In Silicon Valley. They were, you know, early, early days in Mountain View before it was, you know, Google
00:03:50 [Speaker Changed] Crowded and, and just
00:03:52 [Speaker Changed] Exactly before there was traffic. But it was, it was, I think that my parents,
you know, they came here for us to have a better life to make some money, you know, not, you know,
to to, to basically live the American dream. And I think that the only legitimate careers were really in the
sciences or, you know, kind of practical applications today. They’ve completely accepted me for who I
am as the dark, you know, dark art of finance person. But, but back then,
00:04:23 [Speaker Changed] You’re the black sheep in the family. You didn’t become a doctor.
00:04:26 [Speaker Changed] I’m black sheep in the family. Exactly. You know,
00:04:27 [Speaker Changed] My, see, see, for Jewish parents, if you go to law school, they’ll put up with
that. It’s like the, the, the old joke
00:04:34 [Speaker Changed] Law school is just barely accepted.
00:04:35 [Speaker Changed] Right. It’s all right, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll allow it. It’s three years. We’ll allow it.
Right, right. But really, medical school is our first choice.
00:04:42 [Speaker Changed] Exactly, yes. You know, the drill. So yeah, so I was a rebel...
https://ritholtz.com/2024/05/transcript ... bramanian/
It's reasonable to make this comparison and who knows better. But the way I see it is the Indians are the Jews of the new dark age. They will play an appropriate role as we collapse versus the Jews played an appropriate role pre-collapse.
Higgenbotham wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:02 pm
Mentioning Von Neumann reminded me that Roosevelt had his "Dollar a Year Men" and the immigrant Jewish Manhattan Project scientists, while Trump is in the process of assembling the likes of Elon Musk and the H1-B Indian "Tech Bros" around him. It's already been discussed that, while Trump fits the correct mold to be the Gray Champion (Obama did not), it's an open question as to whether he has the temperament and resources to successfully pull it off. Some quotes from Strauss and Howe were reproduced to support that notion.
Khanna, a House Democrat who represents Silicon Valley and a potential future presidential candidate, has known Musk for more than 10 years. In an interview, he called Musk an “an extraordinary entrepreneur” and said that he fits the mold of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s “dollar-a-year men,” the corporate executives who were paid a symbolic salary of $1 annually to help the federal government mobilize for WWII.
Khanna said he has “exchanged texts” with Musk since Trump tapped him to head DOGE. He declined to “go into private exchanges” but said they have discussed “the places where we can collaborate.”
“We have a candid conversation. He also knows where I disagree with him,” he said. “We need to engage these technologists and builders to be part of our coalition, but without compromising our values.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/1 ... hip-000579
There are a lot of reasons to think that this is not an apt comparison. But first it would behoove me to further investigate who Roosevelt's dollar a year men were and what they accomplished. Also, Trump's recent appointments and support of the Indian "Tech Bros" and H1-B has caused a backlash from MAGA voters who feel they have been betrayed. I don't see that anybody has attempted to compare the Indian "Tech Bros" to the eminent Jewish Manhattan Project scientists, but there's still plenty of time for that. There are a lot of reasons to think that, in the event that comparison is attempted, it is not apt either.
This is a conversation between an Indian and a Jew. I've been meaning to comment on it but hadn't gotten around to it (and a lot of other things as I have put prepping for the collapse as top priority).
[quote]00:03:00 [Barry Ritholtz] I read a quote from you way back when you said your parents were pushing you to be either an engineer or a doctor. Is this true? I mean, it’s such a cliche. Indian parents, Jewish parents, go to school, become a doctor.
Savita Subramanian: Well, I mean, there’s a reason it’s a cliche. It’s pretty much the norm. I mean, it happened to, like me and everybody I know who’s a, you know, child of a, an immigrant from India. So it’s kind of, I mean, I think it was, you know, it was the seventies. It was unclear how anybody was gonna make their living. My parents were both in high tech. My dad was an engineer and my mom was a software person, so...
Oh, really?
Yeah. They were both steeped in technology. We
00:03:42 [Speaker Changed] Lived in Silicon Valley.
00:03:43 [Speaker Changed] In Silicon Valley. They were, you know, early, early days in Mountain View before it was, you know, Google
00:03:50 [Speaker Changed] Crowded and, and just
00:03:52 [Speaker Changed] Exactly before there was traffic. But it was, it was, I think that my parents,
you know, they came here for us to have a better life to make some money, you know, not, you know,
to to, to basically live the American dream. And I think that the only legitimate careers were really in the
sciences or, you know, kind of practical applications today. They’ve completely accepted me for who I
am as the dark, you know, dark art of finance person. But, but back then,
00:04:23 [Speaker Changed] You’re the black sheep in the family. You didn’t become a doctor.
00:04:26 [Speaker Changed] I’m black sheep in the family. Exactly. You know,
00:04:27 [Speaker Changed] My, see, see, for Jewish parents, if you go to law school, they’ll put up with
that. It’s like the, the, the old joke
00:04:34 [Speaker Changed] Law school is just barely accepted.
00:04:35 [Speaker Changed] Right. It’s all right, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll allow it. It’s three years. We’ll allow it.
Right, right. But really, medical school is our first choice.
00:04:42 [Speaker Changed] Exactly, yes. You know, the drill. So yeah, so I was a rebel...[/quote]
https://ritholtz.com/2024/05/transcript-savita-subramanian/
It's reasonable to make this comparison and who knows better. But the way I see it is the Indians are the Jews of the new dark age. They will play an appropriate role as we collapse versus the Jews played an appropriate role pre-collapse.
[quote=Higgenbotham post_id=90055 time=1736107372 user_id=100]
Mentioning Von Neumann reminded me that Roosevelt had his "Dollar a Year Men" and the immigrant Jewish Manhattan Project scientists, while Trump is in the process of assembling the likes of Elon Musk and the H1-B Indian "Tech Bros" around him. It's already been discussed that, while Trump fits the correct mold to be the Gray Champion (Obama did not), it's an open question as to whether he has the temperament and resources to successfully pull it off. Some quotes from Strauss and Howe were reproduced to support that notion.
[quote]Khanna, a House Democrat who represents Silicon Valley and a potential future presidential candidate, has known Musk for more than 10 years. In an interview, he called Musk an “an extraordinary entrepreneur” and said that he fits the mold of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s “dollar-a-year men,” the corporate executives who were paid a symbolic salary of $1 annually to help the federal government mobilize for WWII.
Khanna said he has “exchanged texts” with Musk since Trump tapped him to head DOGE. He declined to “go into private exchanges” but said they have discussed “the places where we can collaborate.”
“We have a candid conversation. He also knows where I disagree with him,” he said. “We need to engage these technologists and builders to be part of our coalition, but without compromising our values.”[/quote]
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/12/democrats-elon-musk-relationship-000579
There are a lot of reasons to think that this is not an apt comparison. But first it would behoove me to further investigate who Roosevelt's dollar a year men were and what they accomplished. Also, Trump's recent appointments and support of the Indian "Tech Bros" and H1-B has caused a backlash from MAGA voters who feel they have been betrayed. I don't see that anybody has attempted to compare the Indian "Tech Bros" to the eminent Jewish Manhattan Project scientists, but there's still plenty of time for that. There are a lot of reasons to think that, in the event that comparison is attempted, it is not apt either.[/quote]