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The attacks on Iran needed to happen. The Iranian regime was never going to back down from its pursuit of nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles. We should have gone to war with them back in 1979 over the hostage thing, and, if not then, when they started a nuclear program. This has been inevitable (so long as we are not OK with these fanatical nut jobs having nuclear and thermonuclear weapons).

At this point, unfortunately, the regime is thoroughly entrenched. As I have written previously, there is not going to be some quick turnover of the Iranian leadership and form of government. The optimistic case is a civil war that drags out for years. Even then, democracy is not going to happen. None of the Muslim countries in the middle east, with the exception of Pakistan, have any kind of democratic tradition (and Pakistan's is pretty weak at best). Culture change in Iran would have to happen first, and I don't see it happening to the point that even religious tolerance becomes a reality.

What the war will do here in the US is further ramp up the political discord. Trump's MAGA base, which is rather isolationist, will view the Iran war as a betrayal. The Dems think that anything Trump does is awful, so this will give them plenty of ammo. We will even see the Iranians activate their sleeper cells here in the US, and they will carry out terrorist style attacks.

DaKardi is right about the Russians and their worry about their southern flank. China will also view this as a major threat, as most of their oil was coming from Iran. They may even enter the "countdown" phase to their own plans, just like Japan did when we cut off their oil imports in 1941.

It could also start an economic meltdown, as, presumably, shipping out of the Persian Gulf is now not happening, for understandable insurance reasons.

My basic outline for the future can be summed up as follows:

US entangled in foreign war
Political infighting in the US not seen since US Civil War
Violent anti-establishment demonstrations/actions
Economic downturn to Stock Market Crash
China/Russia and minor allies attack the West, starting WW3
A world war that lasts years, starting with major US and western reverses
A depleted and greatly weakened US comes out on top, only after China reaches the internal breaking point due to starvation

Unless Russia has a friendly regime in charge of either Germany, Iran, or Japan, war with the West is basically inevitable.

Good analysis Dak except it depends on how you define "war". It seems we're already at war with Russia and that Iran is the next step for getting closer to them as well as stymieing the Chinese, or more like flushing the Chinese out into action. We're going to be cutting of too much of their energy supply as well as destroying their massive Iranian investments and their critical Belt and Road node. But yes, it's not just about Iran but rather a piece of a bigger puzzle.

Russia is going to go absolutely apeshit if the Islamic Republic falls.

Going by the words of Russian geopolitical experts such as Aleksandr Dugin, Iran is just as if not even more strategically important (to Russia) than Ukraine.

Since the end of the Cold War, the Islamic Republic has been the only thing standing in the way of Russia being surrounded on all fronts by its traditional Western enemy.

Russia's eastern flank fell to the West in 1945 after Imperial Japan was defeated in WWII, and Russia's western flank fell to the West in 1990 after East Germany collapsed and was reunited with West Germany.

And while some current regimes like the CCP and Erdogan's Turkey tend to play both sides, the best they can do for Russia is buy it time.

Unless Russia has a friendly regime in charge of either Germany, Iran, or Japan, war with the West is basically inevitable.

The Board of Peace launches it's first war. The peace President has been shown to be a pedophile and well as a duplicitous traitor working for another government. 250 years might not make it to the anniversary but we're close enough.
Good luck to everyone and may God forgive you for your sins. Supporting such worldly acts of evil is quite a sin indeed.

spottybrowncow wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 10:14 pm

tim wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 3:26 pm
I have no dog in this fight. I am a student of GD theory and am only commenting on what the theory predicts.

My own personal opinions and beliefs are that everyone should be preparing for total war with China. It’s going to be nuclear with AI and drones used in a way that will traumatize a generation.

Our border has been open for so long and I wouldn’t be surprised if the reported 200k+ Chinese soldiers are here. The cheap Chinese made drones that everyone has are probably doing some kind of spying and mapping for the CCP.

The Chinese attack is going to be a Pearl Harbor style sneak attack. Why would china invade Taiwan only to know they will be fighting us in the end?

Tim,

I'm afraid to say that you may well be correct on all of this.
Everyone will be so surprised.

Spotty

Maybe that's will be what happens. But if we were ACTUALLY experts at predicting correct then, hey,, why not just go big on the stock market and get rich and prepared properly.
We don't know what will happen let alone do the Chinese know. Will we be in a long term conflict of attrition with them? Probably that's a good bet.
Are they a parasite who needs the host to be alive to some extent? Yes.
We're married at the hips and going down is not mutually exclusive. Both sides seek the upper hand while reserving the right to mutual self destruction. It's not reserved to one side only. Let's not underestimate our strength. There's been TRILLIONS (. Yea, literally trillions) poured into the edifice of our national defense. If they haven't figured out what this paltry forum hasn't, well then we deserve what haa has been spoken. But maybe, just maybe, TRILLIONS of dollars into the MIC might have accomplished something akin to actual self defense. Maybe give it 59/50 odds with the band of nitwits and perverts who've risen the ranks since the greatest generation has retired.

tim wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 3:26 pm
I have no dog in this fight. I am a student of GD theory and am only commenting on what the theory predicts.

My own personal opinions and beliefs are that everyone should be preparing for total war with China. It’s going to be nuclear with AI and drones used in a way that will traumatize a generation.

Our border has been open for so long and I wouldn’t be surprised if the reported 200k+ Chinese soldiers are here. The cheap Chinese made drones that everyone has are probably doing some kind of spying and mapping for the CCP.

The Chinese attack is going to be a Pearl Harbor style sneak attack. Why would china invade Taiwan only to know they will be fighting us in the end?

Tim,

I'm afraid to say that you may well be correct on all of this.
Everyone will be so surprised.

Spotty

Fullmoonn wrote: Wed Feb 25, 2026 1:29 pm

tim wrote: Wed Feb 25, 2026 12:01 pm Iran is in a generational awakening era. Iran’s last crisis war was the Iran-Iraq war of 1980.

According to GD theory a full scale war with Iran is impossible the younger generation set to inherit power is pro western and against the hardcore Islamist generation in power.

If the US is able to cripple the Iranian government enough to tip the scale in favor of the younger pro western generation Iran will be our ally.

Bombing last summer only HELPED the mullah regime. It's a nation in severe economic and water scarcity stress. The stress is slowly but surely pushing the people to demand change. An attack by the combined 2 threatening nations has shown to galvanize the population behind the current governments regardless of how detested they are. Just like if/when we get the anticipated domestic attack the population will support Trump, even those who detest him. Similar things happened after the nine eleven attacks and everyone galvanized behind Bush even though he was unpopular and rather detested by many. It's pretty clear that there's no good reason for the US to take big risks in the ME for any kind of reason. It's not sensible and based upon old hatreds that have nothing to do with the majority of Americans.

The younger generation in Iran did not rally around their leaders during the last attack.

America is in a generational crisis era and Iran is in an awakening era the 2 aren’t comparable where they are in the cycle.

When America moved out of the last crisis era, the Chinese attack on American forces in Korea did little to stir the population at home. The Chinese military killed American troops in Korea, the North Koreans captured an American ship in 1968 and nothing happened that would even have come close to a response during the crisis era.

Fullmoonn wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 12:23 pm

tim wrote: Wed Feb 25, 2026 12:01 pm Iran is in a generational awakening era. Iran’s last crisis war was the Iran-Iraq war of 1980.

According to GD theory a full scale war with Iran is impossible the younger generation set to inherit power is pro western and against the hardcore Islamist generation in power.

If the US is able to cripple the Iranian government enough to tip the scale in favor of the younger pro western generation Iran will be our ally.

BTW Tim, what is the obsession with helping some people in a faraway land with whom we have little in common (including all the ME states especially the Suez Canal protectorate theocracy committing genocide) when we now have an overwhelming amount of evidence that the group(s) controlling our own government are pals and fellow conspirators with the infamous child sacrifice/blood drinking, pedophile child molestor group dominating the news?
Is our evil demon cabal really so much worse than a raghead regime who actually says that such perversion is bad?
Don't you think it's the youth of our country being perverted by such things as well as crushed by a feudalistic economy that needs to be liberated? Beware extreme hypocrisy and one way thinking.

I have no dog in this fight. I am a student of GD theory and am only commenting on what the theory predicts.

My own personal opinions and beliefs are that everyone should be preparing for total war with China. It’s going to be nuclear with AI and drones used in a way that will traumatize a generation.

Our border has been open for so long and I wouldn’t be surprised if the reported 200k+ Chinese soldiers are here. The cheap Chinese made drones that everyone has are probably doing some kind of spying and mapping for the CCP.

The Chinese attack is going to be a Pearl Harbor style sneak attack. Why would china invade Taiwan only to know they will be fighting us in the end?

tim wrote: Wed Feb 25, 2026 12:01 pm Iran is in a generational awakening era. Iran’s last crisis war was the Iran-Iraq war of 1980.

According to GD theory a full scale war with Iran is impossible the younger generation set to inherit power is pro western and against the hardcore Islamist generation in power.

If the US is able to cripple the Iranian government enough to tip the scale in favor of the younger pro western generation Iran will be our ally.

BTW Tim, what is the obsession with helping some people in a faraway land with whom we have little in common (including all the ME states especially the Suez Canal protectorate theocracy committing genocide) when we now have an overwhelming amount of evidence that the group(s) controlling our own government are pals and fellow conspirators with the infamous child sacrifice/blood drinking, pedophile child molestor group dominating the news?
Is our evil demon cabal really so much worse than a raghead regime who actually says that such perversion is bad?
Don't you think it's the youth of our country being perverted by such things as well as crushed by a feudalistic economy that needs to be liberated? Beware extreme hypocrisy and one way thinking.

tim wrote: Wed Feb 25, 2026 12:01 pm Iran is in a generational awakening era. Iran’s last crisis war was the Iran-Iraq war of 1980.

According to GD theory a full scale war with Iran is impossible the younger generation set to inherit power is pro western and against the hardcore Islamist generation in power.

If the US is able to cripple the Iranian government enough to tip the scale in favor of the younger pro western generation Iran will be our ally.

Bombing last summer only HELPED the mullah regime. It's a nation in severe economic and water scarcity stress. The stress is slowly but surely pushing the people to demand change. An attack by the combined 2 threatening nations has shown to galvanize the population behind the current governments regardless of how detested they are. Just like if/when we get the anticipated domestic attack the population will support Trump, even those who detest him. Similar things happened after the nine eleven attacks and everyone galvanized behind Bush even though he was unpopular and rather detested by many. It's pretty clear that there's no good reason for the US to take big risks in the ME for any kind of reason. It's not sensible and based upon old hatreds that have nothing to do with the majority of Americans.