by Higgenbotham » Sun May 31, 2026 11:46 am
Higgenbotham wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:58 pm
Last weekend, I had a wide ranging 2 hour conversation with a young woman (age 18) who is the daughter of immigrants to the US. I've noticed many immigrants don't think this is the land of milk and honey once they've been here for awhile, but some of the things this young woman said were quite surprising to me.
I don't use the words "dark age" when talking to people in real life, but several topics that have been discussed in this virtual dark age hovel came up.
She asked me what I thought of AI. I said the first thing that comes to mind with regard to any new technology is whether you believe the civilization is on the ascent or the decline. If you believe the civilization is on the ascent, and you are right about that, then AI will probably on net be a positive and force for good. However, if you believe that the civilization is on the decline...at which point she interjected, "Oh, definitely!"...and then I finished my thought.
She is a bright girl and has been accepted to The University of Texas at Austin to study Chemical Engineering. However, her plan is to attend community college for 2 years to save money, then transfer. She also told me she plans to leave the United States.
Maybe I shouldn't have been surprised, but looking in someone's eyes and seeing their conviction might be a little different than reading about a poll.
Which of course the thought I finished was that if you think the civilization is on the decline then any new technology such as AI in particular will be a net negative and a force for evil.
I mean, there's no limit to how much you can fine-tune and control. Oh, they don't have so much power. They can't control, you know, millions of people. Well, this is what the drive to build all these hundreds, in fact, thousands of data centers is about. It is an organizational challenge to micromanage the world's population through the new um financial world order. Yes, but they're working on solving that. AI is really about that. If AI was about helping us to be more productive, the principle of decentralization would be applied because any human organization and any use and any anything where humans are involved. If you introduce the principle of decentralization, subsidiarity, it will be more productive. No doubt more efficient, more productive. That's been demonstrated in many contexts. I mentioned the the warfare military but and businesses and so on. It's true for everything. But that's not what they're doing. They're creating highly centralized structures which proves that it's not about actual productivity. It's about control controlling us. That's why they need these huge resources.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58mMsnoR27E
This is all likely correct as far as it goes, but it should also be understood that intelligence is always distributed to the advantage of the periphery. "They" know that and "they" fear it.
Higgenbotham wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:01 pm
Always remember that the world runs at approximately the 97th percentile (in terms of ability).
Yes, the smartest people on average are at the centers of power. But just on average.
The absolute ablest individuals always exist on the periphery. Attila the Hun for example. Some of these individuals will rise to the top when the center collapses and the bailouts are no longer possible.
Realize who has the built in advantages, what those advantages are, and that they are "in charge" for the time being. Being clever isn't everything.
It wouldn't surprise me if an insurrection starts out on the periphery within the next year. If so, it'll come out of nowhere and be a total surprise. Most were shocked when the Soviet Union fell, as it was thought their control system was bulletproof. Reference - Ceausescu.
That people are warning is good and necessary.
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Last weekend, I had a wide ranging 2 hour conversation with a young woman (age 18) who is the daughter of immigrants to the US. I've noticed many immigrants don't think this is the land of milk and honey once they've been here for awhile, but some of the things this young woman said were quite surprising to me.
I don't use the words "dark age" when talking to people in real life, but several topics that have been discussed in this virtual dark age hovel came up. [u]She asked me what I thought of AI. I said the first thing that comes to mind with regard to any new technology is whether you believe the civilization is on the ascent or the decline. If you believe the civilization is on the ascent, and you are right about that, then AI will probably on net be a positive and force for good. However, if you believe that the civilization is on the decline...at which point she interjected, "Oh, definitely!"...and then I finished my thought.[/u]
She is a bright girl and has been accepted to The University of Texas at Austin to study Chemical Engineering. However, her plan is to attend community college for 2 years to save money, then transfer. She also told me she plans to leave the United States.
Maybe I shouldn't have been surprised, but looking in someone's eyes and seeing their conviction might be a little different than reading about a poll.[/quote]
Which of course the thought I finished was that if you think the civilization is on the decline then any new technology such as AI in particular will be a net negative and a force for evil.
[quote]I mean, there's no limit to how much you can fine-tune and control. Oh, they don't have so much power. They can't control, you know, millions of people. Well, this is what the drive to build all these hundreds, in fact, thousands of data centers is about. It is an organizational challenge to micromanage the world's population through the new um financial world order. Yes, but they're working on solving that. AI is really about that. If AI was about helping us to be more productive, the principle of decentralization would be applied because any human organization and any use and any anything where humans are involved. If you introduce the principle of decentralization, subsidiarity, it will be more productive. No doubt more efficient, more productive. That's been demonstrated in many contexts. I mentioned the the warfare military but and businesses and so on. It's true for everything. But that's not what they're doing. They're creating highly centralized structures which proves that it's not about actual productivity. It's about control controlling us. That's why they need these huge resources.[/quote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58mMsnoR27E
This is all likely correct as far as it goes, but it should also be understood that intelligence is always distributed to the advantage of the periphery. "They" know that and "they" fear it.
[quote=Higgenbotham post_id=43651 time=1547686892 user_id=100]
Always remember that the world runs at approximately the 97th percentile (in terms of ability).
Yes, the smartest people on average are at the centers of power. But just on average.
The absolute ablest individuals always exist on the periphery. Attila the Hun for example. Some of these individuals will rise to the top when the center collapses and the bailouts are no longer possible.
Realize who has the built in advantages, what those advantages are, and that they are "in charge" for the time being. Being clever isn't everything.[/quote]
It wouldn't surprise me if an insurrection starts out on the periphery within the next year. If so, it'll come out of nowhere and be a total surprise. Most were shocked when the Soviet Union fell, as it was thought their control system was bulletproof. Reference - Ceausescu.
That people are warning is good and necessary.