CH86 wrote:Boomers just don't get (i'm replying primarily to fish dude here). Xers and Millies would never support world government or a global government. They would support an American Empire but only if it is a real empire like the Roman Empire was in it's day; not the current system of government by international committees and NGOs. We hate globalism, European Young people in case your wondering, hate globalism even more than ours do.
The largest grouping that can govern is the NATION.
Globalism, as in "One World Government", is nonsense, in every way possible, and I certainly don't promote it.
Now, you ARE correct that Americans (of most stripes but not all) wouldn't mind an American Empire, if you "adjust" the definition of "empire" a bit.
An "acceptable" empire would be one where all nations are considered sovereign by "The Empire", but any nation that violates the Empire's "code of conduct of nations" (externally or internally) WOULD be surgically "assaulted" so as to "correct" their behavior.
Are you Swiss, perhaps? <chuckle!> (CH = Confoederatio Helvetica?)
Our "evolution" toward the aforementioned kind of "Empire" will happen, eventually, but it's so "cognitively dissonant" to most peoples minds that a whole SLEW of "personality changes" will have to occur in nearly the entire "First World" population before any movement toward it can begin. (I personally think that the 2nd to 3rd world populations would GLADLY welcome such an empire NOW!)
The ONLY way "around" the GD genocidal cycle is for such an "empire" to arise. My opinion is that we have at least another two cycles (~116 to 160 years) until a "legitimate" empire (as described) comes into being that can actually do "the job".
..of course I'm not taking into consideration "the Singularity" (or at least "the Freeing of Muscle" [via robots]), which would probably shorten that time frame quite a bit.
Aloha nui!
<shaka!>
[quote="CH86"]Boomers just don't get (i'm replying primarily to fish dude here). Xers and Millies would never support world government or a global government. They would support an American Empire but only if it is a real empire like the Roman Empire was in it's day; not the current system of government by international committees and NGOs. We hate globalism, European Young people in case your wondering, hate globalism even more than ours do.[/quote]
The largest grouping that can govern is the NATION.
Globalism, as in "One World Government", is nonsense, in every way possible, and I certainly don't promote it. :)
Now, you ARE correct that Americans (of most stripes but not all) wouldn't mind an American Empire, if you "adjust" the definition of "empire" a bit.
An "acceptable" empire would be one where all nations are considered sovereign by "The Empire", but any nation that violates the Empire's "code of conduct of nations" (externally or internally) WOULD be surgically "assaulted" so as to "correct" their behavior.
Are you Swiss, perhaps? <chuckle!> (CH = Confoederatio Helvetica?)
Our "evolution" toward the aforementioned kind of "Empire" will happen, eventually, but it's so "cognitively dissonant" to most peoples minds that a whole SLEW of "personality changes" will have to occur in nearly the entire "First World" population before any movement toward it can begin. (I personally think that the 2nd to 3rd world populations would GLADLY welcome such an empire NOW!)
The ONLY way "around" the GD genocidal cycle is for such an "empire" to arise. My opinion is that we have at least another two cycles (~116 to 160 years) until a "legitimate" empire (as described) comes into being that can actually do "the job".
..of course I'm not taking into consideration "the Singularity" (or at least "the Freeing of Muscle" [via robots]), which would probably shorten that time frame quite a bit.
Aloha nui! :) <shaka!>